[Electrician]

@TommyP, FDV, et. al
Sorry, didn't mean to cast aspersians. I wasn't upset/offended/hurt.
I WAS being sarcastic. I love you guys!
The work you have been doing is not only valuable, but down right nifty!
And (TommyP) I PROMISE I will use an updated cmd on my nxt build.

btw: that weirdness with hang at T-9 after Nlite doesn't happen with an older version of nlite or with non-slipped source. Must be some odd interaction with my added tools ? Anywho, keep the faith!

[fdv]

You can find the files TommyP and I use by clicking here, and feel free to refer others here as well:
http://www.vorck.com/2ksp5.html#hf


I need someone to help test this before I include it as AU.INF in my fileset

 
; windows update system, requires HTML subsystem
;
[Version]
signature="$Windows NT$"
ClassGUID={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
SetupClass=Base
LayoutFile=layout.inf

[DestinationDirs]
file.copy.win  = 10
file.copy.sys  = 11
file.copy.adm  = 17
file.copy.help = 18

[DefaultInstall]
CopyFiles = file.copy.ie, file.copy.sys, file.copy.win, file.copy.help
RegisterDlls = file.reg
AddReg    = addreg
DelReg    = delreg

[DefaultInstall.NT]
CopyFiles = file.copy.ie, file.copy.sys, file.copy.win, file.copy.help
RegisterDlls = file.reg
AddReg    = addreg
DelReg    = delreg

[SourceDisksNames]
1 = %wkscd%,\cdrom_ip.5,,\i386

[SourceDisksFiles]
winhttp.dll = 1
wuaueng.dll = 1
wups.dll = 1
wups2.dll = 1
wuauhelp.chm = 1
wuau.adm = 1
wuaucpl.cpl = 1
wuauclt.exe = 1
wuapi.dll = 1
cdm.dll = 1
iuengine.dll = 1
wuaueng1.dll = 1
wuauclt1.exe = 1
wuweb.dll = 1
wucltui.dll = 1

[file.reg]
winhttp.dll
wuaueng.dll 
wups.dll
wups2.dll
wuaucpl.cpl 
wuauclt.exe 
wuapi.dll
cdm.dll
iuengine.dll
wuaueng1.dll 
wuauclt1.exe 
wuweb.dll
wucltui.dll

[file.copy.sys]
winhttp.dll
wuaueng.dll 
wups.dll
wups2.dll
wuaucpl.cpl 
wuauclt.exe 
wuapi.dll
cdm.dll
iuengine.dll
wuaueng1.dll 
wuauclt1.exe 
wuweb.dll
wucltui.dll

[file.copy.win]

[file.copy.adm]
wuau.adm

[file.copy.help]
wuauhelp.chm

[addreg]
;
; RunOnce Commands
;
;HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce","01",,"%11%\winhttp.dll /register"
;HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce","02",,"%11%\wuaueng.dll /register"
;HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce","03",,"%11%\wups.dll /register"
;HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce","04",,"%11%\wups2.dll /register"
;HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce","05",,"%11%\wuapi.dll /register"
;HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce","06",,"%11%\cdm.dll /register"
;HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce","07",,"%11%\iuengine.dll /register"
;HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce","08",,"%11%\wuaueng1.dll /register"
;HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce","09",,"%11%\wuweb.dll /register"
;HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce","10",,"%11%\wucltui.dll /register"

[delreg]

[Strings]
wkscd   = "Windows 2000 Professional CD"
 

This post has been edited by fdv: 04 October 2005 - 10:43 PM

[saugatak]

@fdv: I should have caught the tongue in cheek reference to "reload" but my brain wasn't working at 3 a.m.

@tommyp: I was just about to burn a CD but now I gotta wait until you come out with your next version!

[tommyp]

Thanks to Pene for his inputs with the WGA link, which required a little change in HFSLIP. So the Pene version is now up along with FDV's new instruction set (minor change) and first post updated.

Remember, please follow the error reporting technique spelled out in the first post so we can help with errors/issues.

[jpascal]

Hi tommyp,

Your batch file is always the best batch file I ever seen


What is interest of line 2039 ?

MOVE WORK\SVCPACK SOURCESS\I386

The files are still in SOURCESS\I386


Another typo error :

ECHO. >> SVCPACK.INF
ECHO [SetupData]>> SVCPACK.INF
ECHO CatalogSubDir="\i386\SVCPACK">> SVCPACK.INF
ECHO. >> SVCPACK.INF
ECHO [SetupHotfixesToRun]>> SVCPACK.INF
)

Remove the ) (line 2150)

[Oleg_II]

Just a note for those who use fdv's IE removal files and still want to use Outlook Express:

1. Use fdv's OE installer (Limited Edition

2. If there are any errors after installation. First run winhtml.inf from your disk (it's fdv's file also). This file installs Help System (you may also modify it or make an installer with it). Then run OE installer again.

3. I have not try this but it theoretically could work: first run winhtml.inf from disk and then run msoe.inf (the file was included in previous versions of fdv's files). Of course if you make use of DELFILES.TXT some files may be missing

OE and Address Book work pritty good on my system. I installed Help System with custom installer during unattended and ran OE installer after installation.

This post has been edited by Oleg_II: 29 September 2005 - 11:49 AM

[saugatak]

Oleg_II, on Sep 29 2005, 10:39 AM, said:

Just a note for those who use fdv's IE removal files and still want to use Outlook Express:

1. Use fdv's OE installer (Limited Edition

2. If there are any errors after installation. First run winhtml.inf from your disk (it's fdv's file also). This file installs Help System (you may also modify it or make an installer with it). Then run OE installer again.

3. I have not try this but it theoretically could work: first run winhtml.inf from disk and then run msoe.inf (the file was included in previous versions of fdv's files). Of course if you make use of DELFILES.TXT some files may be missing

OE and Address Book work pritty good on my system. I installed Help System with custom installer during unattended and ran OE installer after installation.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

@Oleg_II, in instruction 2, how do you run "winhtml.inf"?

@fdv, is the Limited Edition OE installer available on your website?

[Tomcat76]

Hey there... been a while...

I was wondering if HFSLIP removes a file called "mscoree.dll". What is it a part of?

[Moat]

Just noticed a little thing. This link on the webpage for Windows 2000/XP instuctions is not valid anymore.

Windows Media Player 10
Media Player 10 can go into HF folder if you want it slipstreamed. It will be installed with TWO less skins, but otherwise it will appear fully slipstreamed. If you prefer to have the two skins that are with WMP10, then put the WMP10 installer into the HFSVPK_SW folder instead and it will be integrated instead (see below, next step). Note for 2003 users. I don’t know what 2k3 comes with, but try slipstreaming WMP10 in the HF folder and see if WMP10 installs. I have no idea if it will work or not.

http://www.btsunatte...10_Slipstreamer

-Moat

[Oleg_II]

saugatak
You can run the file directly from CD after installation. Just make sure you have this file and don't have DELFILES.TXT in FDVFILES folder before slipstream because it deletes some files needed.

I personally made a silent installer with all files needed and run it through cmdlines.txt in OEM folder. And I tweaked the .inf and deleted two files from installation that fdv marked as dangerous: jscript.dll and shdoclc.dll. They are not needed for OE and opening of .chm files!

PS Frankly speaking I have two very large (about 7MB each) .chm files that don't open but I don't care now as others open good and my favourite html tool opens with no problem

[pene]

@fdv:

Sorry for bothering, but I think that you missed my post #705... Could you please take a look back?

Regards,
Pene

[fdv]

@electrician - you are an nlite user, and we want you to make sure that you are putting of the files that you need to in the "keep" box. are you? http://www.vorck.com....html#nlitekeep

@pene - sorry. post 705 issues:
1. the WindowsUpdateAgent question - my post before this one has a CODEBOX that has an INF file in it. i need someone to see if it installs Windows Update using my fileset. Use my files, and save the CODEBOX contents as AU.INF, replacing my empty one. my goal is to add the background windows update agent as well as the IE one. what you would do is visit windows update by typing the url into an explorer bar (after having installed MSHTML.INF from my fileset).
2. the ROOTSUPD question - i believe this is applicable only to IE. these do not seem to be certificates for digital file signatures, etc.

@saugatak - right click on msoe or mshtml inf file, whichever you want, and select "install." as for the Limited Edition Outlook 6 Installer, i don't offer that anymore. but, uh, let's say that in theory, you might have a pm with a hypothetical link by sunday night where it maybe might be found possibly.

@all - remember, when using my files, that if you don't change the name of DELFILES, if you just leave it alone and ignore it, NO files will be deleted. HFSLIP will only delete files if you add a dot tee ex tee extension to it. personally, i don't delete any files, but it's there for people who want to slim down their source about one meg (hardly worth it, but then, some folks have their reasons).

@moat - new link?

@tomcat76 - HFSLIP isn't in the business of deleting files, unless you rename DELFILES (which does not contain mscoree.dll anyway). this dll is part of dot net.

it's nice to see that everyone is starting to get good at this

in other news, there has been no word on getting our own forum. anyone got an "in" with any of the moderators? we'd either like a subforum here, or a "project" one like nlite has (which do you guys and gal think is better)?

This post has been edited by fdv: 29 September 2005 - 02:22 PM

[pene]

@fdv:

Thank you for the response.

I still don't get it. Maybe its the hour
But how can Windows Update work at all on an IE-less system?

Thanks,
Pene

[fdv]

pene, there are two ways windows updates itself, and in the INF installer text, you'll see a file with a CPL extension. that is the control panel applet for "keep windows up to date automatically." that, and updates via a url typed in the explorer bar (after having right clicked and installed mshtml.inf from my fileset) are what i was investigating.

i need someone to use my fileset, replace the contents of AU.INF with the CODEBOX contents in my post with the chili recipe, and install. then install mshtml.inf, and see if 1) the control panel applet works, 2) windowsupdate works via "windowsupdate.micrsoft.com" typed into an explorer windows titlebar.

[pene]

@fdv:

Interesting. So Windows Update might work on an IE-less system by typing update.microsoft.com in an explorer titlebar... And I was sure all along that IE was needed... A few more questions about this:

1. How would Windows Update deal with the missing IE? I mean, what about updates to IE itself or to other components that won't be installed? Will it know not to show them?

2. Couldn't this trick work also for Add/Remove? Or is it completely IE dependant?

Regarding testing it, I will be able to test it only on next weekend, as I don't have access to my Win2000 HD at the moment...

Now, to a few notes about Step 4 in the instructions (sorted by order of appearance):

1. At "XML 4 (optional)":
You seemed to have missed my note about the XML4 install point 1 (in the same post #705). Not that it really matters, it's just that for a very long time, every time I look at the instructions I wonder why it's there If i'm wrong about it, let me know.

2. At "Malicious Software Removal Tool (optional)":
If all that the stupidly large file does is update generate a regkey, why just not slipstream a reg file instead of the tool? (Do you know what the reg entry that it updates is?)

3. At "Windows Update, LegitCheck (optional)":
At point 2, (info on Windows Genuine Advantage) points to a dead link. The new link is: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/898588

4. At Exodorial The Windows Wizard (end of Step 4):
WGA points to a dead link. The new link is: http://www.uawiki.or...p:ua:activation

Thanks again,
Pene

This post has been edited by pene: 30 September 2005 - 05:37 AM

[Oleg_II]

fdv
I can try the new file but only on weekend. Personally I don't like the idea - I deleted this service even before I started using your set of file with an empty .inf. That was Gosh's trick if I'm not mistaken. I don't like things are going to take place without me knowing it

And don't WU checks the serial number? But using your set of files there is no serial number

As for Limited Edition: why not just publish a receipy of .inf file and a list of files, then give an instruction how to make the installer? No files are provided, to tricks with modifying files

Thanks for clarifying about ROOTSUPD question - I was wondering about it also.

And now I'm wondering: do I really need wmfdist.exe? tommyp may I ask you how are you installing codecs?

I'm one of those who would like to have a lighter source As far as you don't install Help System can we also delete all .chm and .hlp files from the source? It's about 11MB ...

This post has been edited by Oleg_II: 29 September 2005 - 03:22 PM

[pene]

@Oleg_II:

I totally agree about the things that happen without knowing, but the ability to run windows update from within explorer seems interesting... Hoping that it would know to deal with the missing components of course...

Regards,
Pene

[tommyp]

@Oleg_II - If you want to slipstream wm9 and wm10 codecs (NOT the player, only the codecs), then put wmfdist.exe in the HF folder. I install the remainder of my codecs using the HFEXPERT folder. It works great with a full-up hfslip version, but when I run NLITE on the source (very heavily I may add), some codecs don't work properly. When I get free time (not very often) I'll have to troubleshoot it. You can learn more about the HFEXPERT folder on FDVs instructional site. If you're not a novice user of unattended installations, then HFEXPERT isn't for you. BTW, after I run NLITE, I rip out an additional 8 meg or so of extra bloat. Nuhi didn't want any w2k inputs, so I did it myself.

[Oleg_II]

tommyp
So you also use this file and install some more codecs with another folder. Thank you for replying

I really don't know what else can be done with HFSLIP because everything works great already. Maybe you can help fdv with your experiance in nLite so that he removes more not needed files from the source with his set

And it's very interesting to learn about your W2k experience with your script and nLite

By the way I used this method to reduce source before. Have not try it after switching to HFSLIP. It saved me only about 2,5MB (and I manually delete 4 folders in source and some languages also).

This post has been edited by Oleg_II: 30 September 2005 - 05:16 AM

[tommyp]

@pene - Sorry for not answering earlier, I wanted to leave that malicious tool there because the file generates a regkey when it's run. A workaround is for the user of HFSLIP to generate a REG file and run it during installation. I wanted to make it as easy as possible for people. Personally I don't care if my system has that tool installed because if I install windows, I should not have malicous software on it. To each their own though.