[totoymola]

I'm sorry prathapml. Thanks for the links. But that is just the virus defs. So how about the firewall, antispam, and other updates? Are those inside the %ProgramFiles%\Common Files\Symantec Shared\VirusDefs folder too?

[prathapml]

totoymola, on Dec 1 2004, 03:22 AM, said:

So how about the firewall, antispam, and other updates?

If all those make use of other files, those can be replaced with newer versions too.
I've described in those posts linked - to replace the liveupdate,livereg,and such components of NAV. I'm sure NIS is also modular enough to make the "replace with new files" possible.

[GateKeaper]

I've got my install of norton antivirus 2005 pro completely unattended.
It's also activated.

But is there a posibility to run the informationwizart unattended to?

[prathapml]

GateKeaper, on Dec 3 2004, 01:24 AM, said:

But is there a posibility to run the informationwizart unattended to? 

You can try VBscripts (with sendkeys) or Auto-IT scripts.... but it will be too much of a bother.
If anyone else has any other solution - I'm wanting to know it too.

[GateKeaper]

I was working on the Information Wizard and I have the idea that i found a workaround for the problem... I'm not sure yet. I tested in VMWare. And it worked when I removed Norton and installed it again.

I'm now testing again. Complete format and install my windows unattended with norton antivirus 2005 + activation + workaround?...

My computer is busy. and i'm going to sleep. it's 1:30 and i'll have to got to skool tomorow. I'm at home arround 17:00 So arround that time i'll let you all know if it worked or not. And ofcourse... if it worked, i'll tell you how to do it

Greetz
GK

[prathapml]

GateKeaper, on Dec 3 2004, 06:08 AM, said:

I was working on the Information Wizard and I have the idea that i found a workaround for the problem...

That's great news.
*waiting eagerly*

[Astalavista]

prathapml, on Dec 1 2004, 06:01 AM, said:

totoymola, on Dec 1 2004, 03:22 AM, said:

So how about the firewall, antispam, and other updates?

If all those make use of other files, those can be replaced with newer versions too.
I've described in those posts linked - to replace the liveupdate,livereg,and such components of NAV. I'm sure NIS is also modular enough to make the "replace with new files" possible.

I just reformated and installed everything.

i had to dl about 20 MB of updates for NIS and Norton Antivirus.

I would really like to know how i can intergrate those updates. for NIS 2005

[GateKeaper]

prathapml, on Dec 3 2004, 01:13 AM, said:

That's great news.
*waiting eagerly*

I'm sorry... To bad, it did work when i uninstalled and reinstalled Norton. But when i install a brand new windows with Norton unattended. It doesn't work anymore.

The wizard is completed (unattended) but norton isn't activated anymore. The date is set to 1899 instead of 2005. The way i did this is:
Install norton.
Run the wizard (manuly).
Then i copyed CfgWiz.dat from %programfiles%\norton antivirus\ to my nav2k5 setup directory.
And in run.cmd i add the line: XCOPY /Y "%SYSTEMDRIVE%\install\applications\Nav2005\CfgWiz.dat" "%ProgramFiles%\Norton AntiVirus\"

I'm sorry it doesn't work. I'll try find a "real" solution tonight.

[prathapml]

GateKeaper, on Dec 3 2004, 10:22 PM, said:

The wizard is completed (unattended) but norton isn't activated anymore.

Oh?
Okay, I'll try a bit of thought on this (I'll see how dare Norton not listen, lol). In the meantime, if you do find the solution, do keep us posted.

[ToBe]

@Astalavista:

Did you get NIS2005 to install and activate silently? 'Cause I still can't get this to work...

[sonica]

thank you all!

i suggest a .sfx because even removing component files were 70MB...

26 with a RAR, a bit slower but a lot less space

thanks

sonica

[GateKeaper]

I found a way to register, activate, AND run the wizard that come's after the NAV2005 Setup silently.
So I thought: "Lets share it with all the people on msfn"

So Here's the way to make the wizard disappear.

First of all. You need to install NAV2005
Second, Run the wizard, by a dubbelclick on the trayicon.
third, reboot and boot in safemode.
fourth, Copy all files and directory's below to a empty directory of your choice. I advise something like C:\NAV-WIZ\
Make sure you use the same structure as below. So copy these directory's also. Not only the files.

"%ProgramFiles%\Norton AntiVirus\CfgWiz.dat"
"%ProgramFiles%\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC\symlcrst.dll "
"%ProgramFiles%\Common Files\Symantec Shared\IDS\"
"%ProgramFiles%\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SymcData\"
"%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Application Data\Symantec\LiveSubscribe\"

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Make your C:\NAV-WIZ\ dir look like this one.
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C:\NAV-WIZ\CfgWiz.dat 
C:\NAV-WIZ\navkey.reg       (made by yourself, not a copy-paste, explain later)
C:\NAV-WIZ\CCPD-LC\symlcrst.dll 

C:\NAV-WIZ\IDS\IDSSettg.dat 

C:\NAV-WIZ\LiveSubscribe\Catalog.LiveSubscribe

C:\NAV-WIZ\SymcData\ids-diskless\definfo.dat 
C:\NAV-WIZ\SymcData\ids-diskless\usage.dat 

C:\NAV-WIZ\SymcData\ids-diskless\BinHub\catalog.dat 
C:\NAV-WIZ\SymcData\ids-diskless\BinHub\metadata.dat 
C:\NAV-WIZ\SymcData\ids-diskless\BinHub\symidsco.sys 
C:\NAV-WIZ\SymcData\ids-diskless\BinHub\symidsco.vxd 
C:\NAV-WIZ\SymcData\ids-diskless\BinHub\SymIDSI.dll 
C:\NAV-WIZ\SymcData\ids-diskless\BinHub\v.grd 
C:\NAV-WIZ\SymcData\ids-diskless\BinHub\v.sig 
C:\NAV-WIZ\SymcData\ids-diskless\BinHub\virscan1.dat 
C:\NAV-WIZ\SymcData\ids-diskless\BinHub\zdone.dat

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fifth, Reboot in normal mode.
sixth, Move the contents of your NAV-WIZ directory to X:\XPCD\$OEM$\$1\Install\Applications\NAV2005\NAV-WIZ\
seventh, Create a start_II.cmd in X:\XPCD\$OEM$\$1\Install\

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Make your start_II.cmd dir look like this one.
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ECHO.
ECHO Copy All files to deactivate Nortons wizard.
XCOPY /Y    "%SYSTEMDRIVE%\Install\Applications\NAV2005\NAV-WIZ\CfgWiz.dat"    "%ProgramFiles%\Norton AntiVirus\"
XCOPY /Y /E "%SYSTEMDRIVE%\Install\Applications\NAV2005\NAV-WIZ\SymcData"      "%ProgramFiles%\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SymcData\"
XCOPY /Y /E "%SYSTEMDRIVE%\Install\Applications\NAV2005\NAV-WIZ\IDS"           "%ProgramFiles%\Common Files\Symantec Shared\IDS\"
XCOPY /Y /E "%SYSTEMDRIVE%\Install\Applications\NAV2005\NAV-WIZ\LiveSubscribe" "%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Application Data\Symantec\LiveSubscribe\"

ECHO.
ECHO Done.

EXIT

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eight, Put the lines below, at the end of your start.cmd

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The end of start.cmd.
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ECHO.
ECHO Place some keys in the register, for the finishing touch.
REG ADD HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx /V TITLE /D "Unattended XP v2005" /f
REG ADD HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx\050 /VE /D  "Continuing silent installs" /f
REG ADD HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx\050 /V 1 /D "CMD.exe /C \"%systemdrive%\install\start_II.cmd\"" /f

ECHO Rebooting...
shutdown.exe -r -f -t 15 -c "Windows XP will now restart for a second installation progress."

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ninth, I'll gues you all know the navkey.reg, but for the one that doesn't, here it is.

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Make your navkey.reg look like this. (replace the Xes by your serial)
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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Symantec\CCPD-LC\KStore\00000082\0000000f\0000001b]
"Key"="XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX"

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And the final step.
thenth, Put these line's into your setup.cmd otherwise NAV2005 won't be installed at all

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Place this somewhere in your setup.cmd file.
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ECHO.
ECHO Installing Norton AntiVirus 2005
ECHO Please wait...

MKDIR "%ProgramFiles%\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC"
REGEDIT /S "%SYSTEMDRIVE%\Install\Applications\NAV2005\NAV-WIZ\navkey.reg"
XCOPY /Y /E "%SYSTEMDRIVE%\Install\Applications\NAV2005\NAV-WIZ\CCPD-LC" "%ProgramFiles%\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC\"
start /wait %SYSTEMDRIVE%\Install\Applications\NAV2005\NAVSETUP.exe "/qb /noreboot REBOOT=ReallySuppress" 

taskkill.exe /F /IM cfgwiz.exe
taskkill.exe /F /IM ccApp.exe
taskkill.exe /F /IM symlcsvc.exe
taskkill.exe /F /IM ccSetMgr.exe
taskkill.exe /F /IM ccEvtMgr.exe
taskkill.exe /F /IM SAVScan.exe
taskkill.exe /F /IM navapsvc.exe
taskkill.exe /F /IM NPROTECT.EXE

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You're done!
NOTE: Now setup runs as folow's.
Create directory %ProgramFiles%\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC
Ad navkey.reg to your register.
Copy symlcrst.dll to the created directory.
Install NAV2005
Reboot
Copy a lot of files, to make the wizard disapear.
Now there's just one little problem. Norton Worm Protection seems to be broken. BUT!, after you run liveupdate it's fixed!
So just run liveupdate once your unattended install is completed.

Hope you all can understand my first tutorial. If not... just ask.

Greetz
GK

[prathapml]

Great guide GK!
So now it is possible to have the entire NAV-thing done totally silent.

[BBQmyNUTZ]

Anyone else having an issue with NAV2005 asking for you to activate again if you're using a symlcrst.dll file that was activated on a previous date?

I activated on the 11th, at around 10 o'clock. Did a test install about a half hour later and it worked fine. Did a run after 12am, and it asked to be activated.

Kai

[Astalavista]

What about a Guide for Norton Internet Security 2005 as well.

[reni]

BBQmyNUTZ:

Having the same problem. Installed it on my first pc. Everything was fine and activate was already done. Installing it to a second one. And hat one is asking for a activation again.

strange.......

[GateKeaper]

Hmm... strange, I tested in VMWare and it works just fine. But i installed on my laptop this evening. and got the same problem as you guys did.
Had to reactivate after an second update.

I'll try to find the problem as soon as posible... Sorry for the problems and incomplete unattended wizard "solution"

[www2000]

Not only is it asking to re-activate, when you do, it throws the expiration date the same as when you first installed the application.

So if 3 months from now I use this DVD, I'll only have 9 months before it expires.

Wisc

[prathapml]

www2000, on Dec 14 2004, 11:10 PM, said:

it throws the expiration date the same as when you first installed the application.

Are you referring to virus defs subscription?
If so, its expected behaviour. Keep in mind that it can only be used on the same machine where it was activated, and that all other info will get carried over too.

[jrf2027]

Just a thought here...

Of the several of you who are having problems with the symlcrst.dll file...how are you grabbing the file? Are you installing and activating NAV, then deleting it and retrieving the file, or are you booting into Windows using safe mode and retrieving the file?

Are you installing symlcrst.dll to the expected location before or after NAV is installed?

Also, as far as the activation date for the new installation being the same as the original activation date, is this on a new, clean installation of Windows, or reinstalling NAV on a Windows installation where it was once before installed? My personal experience shows that if it's a clean install of Windows, you get another full 366 days, but if it's a reinstall, you only get the 366 from the original date of activation.

Perhaps Symantec found out we cracked the unattended installation, and has NAV modify the symlcrst.dll file after first download of updates to prevent future cracking...in which case the smiley is appropriate...but as for my own trials, it's always worked (so far)... which means the smiley is more appropriate for me...