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Incidentally, the "32 bit vs 128 bit" has little to no meaning given that most of the graphics rendering is done not by the CPU but by the GPU. Xbox's GPU is a true 128 bit nVidia processor, supposedly equivelent to a high end Geforce3 or low-end Geforce 4. You're claim concerning MS getting around their celeron by "adding some fancy circuitry and memory" is ridiculous at best.
Nice fanboy post, I suppose, but what a complete pile of crap with no basis in reality whatsoever. You go take a look at Splinter Cell on Xbox, then take a look at Splinter Cell on PS2, and then come back and tell us which one is better at graphics and rendering.
Jason
Zxian, on Nov 16 2004, 05:38 PM, said:
Why is there no Atari here?!?!?! 
I'd have to say that the moment Sony released the PlayStation they have been on top of the video game market.
PS2 is a better console than XBox in terms of graphics and rendering. Anyone who argues that XBox is better than PS2 should think about what kind of hardware the two systems have in them. The PS2 works on a truely 128-bit 300MHz RISC processor, while the XBox is chugging away with an almost stock Intel Celeron clocked at 733 MHz. The Celeron is still performing calculations in a 32-bit world. MS got around this by adding some fancy circuitry and memory around the processor so that it can ultimately handle 128-bit instructions (take any Electrical Engineering course to understand this). However, just by simple math, it would take at least 4 clock cycles for the most basic 128-bit calculation to be completed in the XBox.
The only advantage that XBox has over PS2 is the built in hard drive. But... is this really that big of an advnatage? When you're racing a car on a track, it's very important to be able to hear the engine, tires, and the rest of the car in general. Same deal in Gran Turismo 3 or Project Gotham Racing. I don't really want to listen to my own music while I'm playing these types of games. In fact... there aren't any games that I'd want to play where I'd have music in the background, except for maybe Final Fantasy or something like that.
As for the network connection, the new slim-line PS2's are coming out with this built in, so that old-advantage of the XBox is gone.
And then there's size... the XBox is HUGE!!! I like the fact that I can pack my PS2 into a carrying case (with all cables, 2 controllers, and about 6 or so games in their original cases) which measures about 12"X12"X4" (the PS2 carrying case by Sony). The XBox is fat and heavy. There's no way that I'd be able to lug around an XBox to a party or something (like testing the projectors at my university
).
Not to mention that except for Halo 1&2, Playstation has way better games.
So... end of story, PS2... all the way...
P.S. It's probably common knowledge to most, but it's still funny that people have been able to run Linux on the XBox... a Microsoft product...
I'd have to say that the moment Sony released the PlayStation they have been on top of the video game market.
PS2 is a better console than XBox in terms of graphics and rendering. Anyone who argues that XBox is better than PS2 should think about what kind of hardware the two systems have in them. The PS2 works on a truely 128-bit 300MHz RISC processor, while the XBox is chugging away with an almost stock Intel Celeron clocked at 733 MHz. The Celeron is still performing calculations in a 32-bit world. MS got around this by adding some fancy circuitry and memory around the processor so that it can ultimately handle 128-bit instructions (take any Electrical Engineering course to understand this). However, just by simple math, it would take at least 4 clock cycles for the most basic 128-bit calculation to be completed in the XBox.
The only advantage that XBox has over PS2 is the built in hard drive. But... is this really that big of an advnatage? When you're racing a car on a track, it's very important to be able to hear the engine, tires, and the rest of the car in general. Same deal in Gran Turismo 3 or Project Gotham Racing. I don't really want to listen to my own music while I'm playing these types of games. In fact... there aren't any games that I'd want to play where I'd have music in the background, except for maybe Final Fantasy or something like that.
As for the network connection, the new slim-line PS2's are coming out with this built in, so that old-advantage of the XBox is gone.
And then there's size... the XBox is HUGE!!! I like the fact that I can pack my PS2 into a carrying case (with all cables, 2 controllers, and about 6 or so games in their original cases) which measures about 12"X12"X4" (the PS2 carrying case by Sony). The XBox is fat and heavy. There's no way that I'd be able to lug around an XBox to a party or something (like testing the projectors at my university
).Not to mention that except for Halo 1&2, Playstation has way better games.
So... end of story, PS2... all the way...
P.S. It's probably common knowledge to most, but it's still funny that people have been able to run Linux on the XBox... a Microsoft product...
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