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#1 User is offline   Astalavista 

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  Posted 11 December 2004 - 10:24 AM

A majority of us here us Winrar SFX.

But Winrar has a major flaw in my opinion is that it can only extract to a single path.

Is there any compression software that can handle multiple paths.

Example if i have

file001.XXX <- extract to c:\download
File002.xxx <- extract to c:\temp
File003.XXX <- extract to c:\ images

In a single Self Extracting file. :unsure:


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Posted 11 December 2004 - 10:57 AM

Winrar can extract to any path you type in "Path to Extract" :
C:\Temp should be %Temp%
C:\Images - > %Systemdrive%\Images
..and so on , you can use full paths also .

Under SFX Options - Modes , if you check the "Unpack to temp folder" it extracts to Temp by default but also deletes extracted files in Temp after you close the application
which is usefull for batch files or standalone appz .

Latest Powerarchiver has similar SFX feature but uses CAB files instead , but not 100% silent , the extract progress shows on screen with larger sfx files .

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Posted 11 December 2004 - 11:26 AM

you dont understand what i said.

I have one SFX EXE file

within that file, for example: resides file1 file2 file3 and so on and so forth.
each one will extract to a different directory get it.?

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Posted 11 December 2004 - 11:26 AM

Perhaps you could try 7zip:
http://www.7-zip.org/
FREEWARE

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Posted 11 December 2004 - 11:47 AM

Astalavista, on Dec 11 2004, 09:54 PM, said:

Is there any compression software that can handle multiple paths.
If there is, I haven't heard of it. Almost every good compression util I know can only extract to a single path (winrar, 7zip, winzip, pkzip, stuffit, power-archiver.....).

I was recently told of this utility - Paquet Builder - Create powerful Self-Extracting distributions. But other than that, I think your best bet is to resort to install-makers. Something like Inno-setup, WinInstall-LE (for MSI packages), AI-setup (MSI).

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Posted 11 December 2004 - 12:57 PM

file001.XXX <- extract to c:\download
File002.xxx <- extract to c:\temp
File003.XXX <- extract to c:\ images

If Winrar can't , no one else can , try this :
you can try a chain extract , first exe calls the second one after extract :
Ex: Download.exe must have the path %Temp%\Temp.exe under "Run after extracting"
Same for the Temp.exe , calls Images.exe , so %Temp%\Images.exe .
The last one could clean the Temp folder so put 'cmd /c del /f /q %Temp%\*.*' to run after extract .

Compress all 3 in a main .exe file ,this one calls the first file (Download.exe) so:
Run After Extract : Download.exe
Path : %Temp%
Uncheck the "Unpack to temp folder" option

Hope its clear enough ..

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Posted 11 December 2004 - 04:22 PM

yes i think there is one available to download

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Posted 11 December 2004 - 05:49 PM

Simply store the folders and files in the SFX archive.

Using your examples, set WinRAR to extract to %systemdrive%, then store the following folders and files in the archive:

Download
file001.XXX
Temp
File002.xxx
Images
File003.XXX

Create the folders, copy the filles to them, then add them to a WinRAR archive.

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Posted 11 December 2004 - 06:44 PM

Make a batch file to copy the 3 files to their respective folders, rar up the 3 files + the batch file to extract in temp mode. Run the batch after extraction.

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Posted 11 December 2004 - 06:53 PM

thanks but i know how to do that.

what i want is a program... I guess it will be wise or installshield for now.

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Posted 11 December 2004 - 06:56 PM

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Make a batch file to copy the 3 files to their respective folders, rar up the 3 files + the batch file to extract in temp mode. Run the batch after extraction.


For me this is the easiest way. This is what I always do. But, Power-Archiver has the feature of multiple extract location.

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 01:45 AM

Multiple files, here and there.
WinRAR can do it by storing the full path.

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 07:26 AM

If it stores full path, won't it become absolute?
Will system variables still be usable?

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 07:52 AM

prathapml, on Dec 12 2004, 08:26 AM, said:

If it stores full path, won't it become absolute?
Will system variables still be usable?

AFAIK prathapml, you should still be able to use system variables. To the best of my knowledge WinRAR (or any other archive program) stores a full relative path. I don't believe there is ever an instance where drive letter is stored in the archive as well. (If anyone knows otherwise, please correct me.) So, if you want to have a bunch of files extracted to various locations on your system drive, you can set the archive to extract itself to %systemdrive% and archive all the files inside with their respective full paths relative to the root of the system drive. One drawback I can see to this is that user-specific variables can not be used. (You can't, for example, have the files in the archive extracted to your %userprofile% directory, because the folder structure within the archive is already set.) Since with a uA CD you will also be the one responsible for creating the user account, and will therefore know its name, this shouldn't be too much of an issue.

I hope this makes sense, because as I'm trying to read over it, I find that I'm only confusing myself. Just let me know if it needs further clarification, and I'll try again once I've gotten some sleep.

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 08:10 AM

You have 2 choices. You can use store with full path or store full path with drive letter. First choice is the option to use. If I want to add WinRAR.exe and Internet Explorer.exe into the archive. Choose store with full path. Compress it into a self-extracter and set the extract destination to the root of the harddrive. When you extract, everything goes back to their destinations. This archive would contain Program Files folder with Internet Explorer folder and Internet Explorer.exe inside, also WinRAR folder with WinRAR.exe inside it.
With this, WinRAR can act similar to a simple installer.
The setting is in Files Tab -> File paths drop down box.
I have tested this and seems to work with system variables.
;The comment below contains SFX script commands

Path=.\%systemdrive%\
SavePath
Silent=2
I use this option mostly for my PC game saves. Makes it easy to restore them when the game is reinstalled later.

Edit: accepts %UserProfile% also.

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 09:48 AM

Cartoonite, on Dec 12 2004, 07:22 PM, said:

I hope this makes sense
Oh, it sure does. :) Thanks for the clarification.

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 05:42 PM

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I use this option mostly for my PC game saves. Makes it easy to restore them when the game is reinstalled later.

Great idea. I've always just copied the saved games to my second hard drive and then copied them back after I've reinstalled the game. Now I can add my saved games to my uA CD and I will be ready to pick up where I left off as soon as I reinstall the games themselves. Or maybe I can go even crazier, and add even the games to the uA CD. B)

Hmmm..........

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 05:50 PM

@Cartoonite
If you keep doing a few pre-defined operations (like installing your game, or copying saved files over to your new install) everytime, for that particular PC, having a batch-file plugin run from elsewhere on the hard-disk might be a good idea. Check it out and tell what you think. ;)

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  Posted 12 December 2004 - 06:12 PM

I've read that post before prathapml, and it is definitely a great idea. I have the thread bookmarked and will be looking into it more once I've got my uA in and of itself working the way it is supposed to.

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 06:42 PM

I just extract to %systemdrive% and use a full directory structure within.

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