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#1 User is offline   RyanVM 

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Posted 15 December 2004 - 12:02 AM

OK, I'm getting really frustrated by this. On all my fresh installs now, Windows Update is prompting me to run the Doomjuice, Mydoom, Zindos removal tool (KB836528). So far, my quest to find a registry key which makes Windows think it was run (similar to the GDI+ Detection Tool) has turned up nothing. The best lead I've had is that the tool makes a RemovalTools registry key and adds an entry for that tool with a value of OK when it's run. However, I've tried manually adding that entry on a fresh install and Windows Update still thinks the tool must be run.

Has anybody figured out a way to trick WindowsUpdate???


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Posted 15 December 2004 - 12:16 AM

Have you tried integrating it into your source? That worked with the GDI detection tool for me, I didn't use a registry hack.

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Posted 15 December 2004 - 12:21 AM

I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're asking.

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Posted 15 December 2004 - 02:55 PM

...so I'm guessing that's a no then...

Rats :(

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Posted 16 December 2004 - 10:36 PM

Well, I figured out a way that works. As some of you are aware of, blastcln.exe is already on the XP CD. Also, you can see on a fresh install that at some point during XP setup, blastcln.exe is run. The evidence for that is a log file in c:\windows\debug named blastcln.log. I also noticed when running doomcln.exe that a doomcln.log was also created in the same directory. This got the gears spinning in my head. So I tried renaming doomcln.exe to blastcln.exe and compressed it and put it in i386. And (not) to my surprise, it worked! doomcln.log was present and WindowsUpdate no longer wants to install. So for the next release, that's what I'll be doing unless someone can find a better solution.

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Posted 17 December 2004 - 12:11 AM

that's the closest thing i've seen to totally removing this dreaded tool :)

i simply hid it away in WU ...

ur steps fools WU to think it's been executed or installed ...

what if you dump the doomcln.log file? does WU look for the exe or log (string search)??

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Posted 17 December 2004 - 01:55 AM

I tried nearly every combination of file/registry settings I could think of, but to no avail. And I'm really not tricking WU into thinking it was run, since it was actually run ;). I'm just fooling Windows setup into running something other than what it thinks it is.

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Posted 17 December 2004 - 06:00 AM

Last night I integrated all new 5 fixes with /integrate.I tested this new one on virtual pc and it said no critical updates.Before integration I had that stupid Mydoom false alarm.Really dont know the reason :)

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Posted 17 December 2004 - 08:42 PM

Yeah, it's driving me nuts. Oh well, if the workaround works, the renamed blastcln.exe is 40KB extra on the download size - not exactly a big deal for an 11.5MB file. And it adds an extra 7k to the overall size of the CD :P

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 10:05 PM

hi ryan. would like to confirm this... to remove the latest KB836528 patch from WU, ill just have to do this...

- download the KB836528 update (for english language)
- decompress the DoomCln-KB836528-v4-ENU.exe file. (english file)
- on the decompressed folder, rename the uncompressed doomcln.exe to blastcln.exe
- compress the blastcln.exe file to blastcln.ex_ to the source i386 folder.

#11 User is offline   RyanVM 

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 10:23 PM

Yes, that should work. But there's another way which supposedly works that I'm in the process of verifying.

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Posted 19 December 2004 - 12:02 AM

oh... hmm, i did the same... however, an error appeared during the registering component stage... kinda forgot what the exact message was but it was a fatal error or something... checking at the log file (%windir%\debug\doomcln.log), i found the following message...
Microsoft MyDoom removal tool (build 1.227) started on Sun Dec 19 12:52:12 2004
Checking 23 processes.
Checking startup registry keys for current user.
Checking keys for 1 other users
Insufficient memory - 0 bytes needed
Can't query value for `Startup`, datasize=148, err=00000002
Deleted registry key 80000002:Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Shell
Checking known MyDoom filenames.
Microsoft MyDoom removal tool stopped on Sun Dec 19 12:52:12 2004


wonder if i did something different.
i just repacked the doomcln.exe file with the makecab...

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Posted 19 December 2004 - 12:29 AM

this is wierd...

i tried decompressing the blastcln.ex_ file i just integrated onto the source with the one i re-downloaded from the web... thinking there was just an integrity problem with the files that were burned... i found no differences using the FC /B command.

however, when i tried re-compressing the downloaded file to a cab via makecab and did a file comparison... i saw some differences... grrr... im confused now...
00000036: 02 93
00000038: 5C 2A
00000039: 73 61


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Posted 19 December 2004 - 12:59 AM

tried looking for "doom" words in the registry... so far, i have found a couple of appearances, but this one seems to be relevant.
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\RemovalTools]
"MydoomTool"="OK"
i wonder if this in combination of adding a dummy log file (%windir%\doomcln.log) on the debug folder is enough to trick WU into thinking the doomcln.exe has been executed.

sorry for the succeeding questions...
i just happened to look at the %windir%\setuperr.log file... and i saw these... (snippets only)
Error:
Setup had problems registering the following OLE control DLL:

C:\WINDOWS\system32\blastcln.exe

Contact your system administrator, who may provide assistance in diagnosing this problem.

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Error:
Setup detected that the system file named [c:\windows\system32\blastcln.exe] is not signed properly
by Microsoft.  This file could not be restored to the correct Microsoft version.
Use the SFC utility to verify the integrity of the file.

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Posted 01 January 2005 - 03:45 PM

Any progress on this guys?

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Posted 01 January 2005 - 08:13 PM

I had the same error in %windir%\debug\doomcln.log, Now this error occurs during widows setup and you need to click ok, this defeats the purpose of an unattended install, since this error occurs before runonce, doing the reghack is pointless, but what if i run the reghack during cmdlines.txt, when exactly is this file exicuted? Will this hault the error???

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Posted 01 January 2005 - 08:16 PM

new thought, what if you add the file doomcln.exe to the cd, and run it silently from the instalation???? then the file has been run, anyone try that?

*edited*
once again answering my own questions, and providing more theories, cmdlines.txt runs with 12min left, anyone remember when this error happens? and Ryan, you said you had this 100% working, what did you do exactly, can you give us all steps?

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Posted 01 January 2005 - 10:45 PM

Well, it turns out the error is on my end for it showing up in the first place. Apparently WhoLockMe is creating the registry entry which makes WindowsUpdate want to run the cleanup tool.

I'm going to try and have it fixed for the next release.

In the mean time, you can trick WindowsUpdate by adding the "MydoomTool" entry and removing the Shell key as described here

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Posted 02 January 2005 - 12:51 AM

O dear, looks like my quick delete key has taken another file i needed, can some kind soul upload me the stock blastcln.ex_ from sp2, as i overwrote mine with the mydoom file? Its in the i386 folder for anyone who hasnt followed the my doom thread.

*edit*
just incase someone made the same mistake heres the file, i took it off a cd that had only sp2 integrated....

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Posted 02 January 2005 - 12:43 PM

So Im a bit confused.... is that reg entry you posted Ryan all I need? Or do I need to modify this file twisted refers to....

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