[jeeva]

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Read the whole thread. I have said it many many times... If you think going to a PowerMac will fix your problems then go for it... All of you Windows 98 lovers say "XP has too much eyecandy..." well, You will LOVE OS X Tiger then... smile.gif

BTW. the eyecandy of XP is not bad, but fortunately you can change it - alltrough only after patching - to your taste, on my XP-Box I have OS X theme.

To all Mods: PLEASE close this thread, it is so senseless... and only a flood.

[miko]

un4given1, on Jan 24 2005, 01:35 AM, said:

OK...  It has been 7 years since Windows 98 was released (98SE in 99, so that's 6 years).  I can't believe there are still so many people who run it.  Why?  What is your reason for running it?  I switched to XP almost instantly.  I work in corporate environments so it's important for me to work with the newest and best.  IMO Windows XP is more stable, faster and just all around a better OS.  So, to help me understand please answer the following questions...

• Why I still use Windows 98/98SE over Windows XP
  
  
• My system specs
  
  
• Have you ever tried Windows XP or do you just hate it so much you won't?

Just curious to know why, that's all.
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• compatiblity with DOS, some other programs and older compile environments mostly (i'm heavily involved in emulation) that and it costs too much (home edition with SP2 296 USD i even converted it for you from GBP) i have other better things to spend money on than constantly upgrading stuff i don't need to (example - my sony TV is 27 years old) but your tech support, your bred to think a different way. i don't need files larger than 2 gig (i don't pirate dvds) i've never seen a corrupted file, ever (i don't overclock either) i play the odd game, i surf the net, i read my net based e-mail (btw for any others reading, 98SE can be installed without outlook express, easily, just use 98lite to extract the cab files and it 'corrects' the installer) i do these things one at a time, so generally don't need the enhanced muti-tasking ablity of XP. i have a firewall and dial-up and that does me personally, so security isn't a big issue either, i don't fileshare or haunt IRC so viruses are also someone elses problem, i've only ever seen one. the programs i do use, i don't need to replace nor do i want to (again the money thing) sometimes i fiddle with it when i have nothing better to do, a bad habit i picked up from my old Amiga/ST days. my icons are all self converted or altered from the XP ones and the colour scheme is also updated, i also wrote a new webview, so it looks up to date. as i know my stuff inside out i've only had 2 crashes in the last 12 months (i had to check my faultlog.txt for this), i know a bit about it cause i used to provided support for my brothers and moms PCs. there are 7 of us and i'm the oldest so i kinda fell to me (they all had their own PCs while living in the family home) so i guess maybe there's a sentimental attachment, all the other stuff mentioned in the thread as an advantage is largely irrelevant to me. i think i would maybe upgrade to win 2000, if i could find a cheap copy now it's older, but unfortunately it's dearer than XP.
  
  
  
• my system specs -
  an old faithful 200 Mhz laptop.
  old system 900 Mhz Celeron, Intel 815, 512MB mem
  new system (in the post) Sempron 3000+, Asus nForce 2, 512MB mem (this new 'core' cost less than XP)
  PS. the above system was bought with 98SE and MAME in mind, and was only bought at all because my old system bust a very short while ago because a fan failed on the graphics card and that then damaged the AGP interface.
  
  
  
• i have a 2 gig all Intel XP PC sitting in the corner, it's always on, is hardwired into MS UK through a dedicated connection, can't go anywhere else, it's remote administered from somewhere and sometimes i go to use it and it has all new stuff on from the last time, it has Office on it and is mainly used for video conferencing, needless to say it's my work PC so thats all i use it for, it doen't even belong to me, occasionally the printer bursts into life with stuff for me to do, i actually don't use it that much. i'm a people person
  
  my brother and mum, both use XP, moms is a stable Dell and is just used for e-mail and writing, my brother that still stays at home built his own, plays online games and it crashes all the time (go figure) one of the few things i don't like about XP is it doesn't really seem to tell you why. i have spent time on both machines and installed XP and SP2 on my brothers for him.

i've read through the thread, best post was by jaclaz, some of the 9X zealots get into it to much, but we need a few people like that around to keep a 9X support forum a healthy knowledge base, much the same as any other forum you need those that are heavily "into it". some good explantaions of the pros and cons of XP are attempted, but after reading through it occurred to me that most 9X users dual boot with XP, and after reading some if not all of your posts i reached this conclusion - it's not us that hate XP, it's you that hates 9X.

as you said yourself a few times, I don't care (which was odd for the thread starter). i don't need XP, i work with what i have, i have very specific personal reasons for doing that, as by the time Blackcomb hits and you all start looking backwards i'll have retired with several blocks of flats bought and paid for, supplying me with an income in excess of that which i make now, i'll be 40ish then and technically a millionare, at least that's the plan. right now i'm off to watch the rest of the Dambusters on TV...

Bjork said:

there's more to life than this

[un4given1]

@miko: your post is exactly what I was looking for... it's the "because XP can't do this..." posts that caused this thread to flare up. I am content with truthful answers, not misconceptions and lies.

[jeeva]

Ok, so I don't install Windows XP on my 900 MHz Athlon because my TV-Card works not good with it, black borders, less crisp pictures etc.

That's the main point.

You can tell me, that this could be fixed, but XP also don't start as speedy as xp.

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jeeva, on May 14 2005, 07:14 PM, said:

You can tell me, that this could be fixed, but XP also don't start as speedy as xp.
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XP also don't start as speedy as xp??????????????

What does that mean.

Please GOD let this thread die. I am so feed up with the XP/98 p***ing contest.

[jeeva]

Sorry, XP as speedy as 98, I mean.

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Please GOD let this thread die. I am so feed up with the XP/98 p***ing contest. confused.gif

I would apreciate that.

[un4given1]

jeeva, on May 15 2005, 01:00 PM, said:

Sorry, XP as speedy as 98, I mean.

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Please GOD let this thread die. I am so feed up with the XP/98 p***ing contest. confused.gif

I would apreciate that.
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Boy are you in the dark on this one...

[un4given1]

OK, I'm gonna close this one out...

But, I like to get in the last word, so I am gonna do just that.

This thread was never 98 vs. XP If you were one of the few to actually read the whole thread you will see my only problem with the things that were being said is that they were lies and misconceptions.

If you are content with Windows 98 then by all means keep using it. If it does everything you need it to then that's great. I do, for your sake, hope that you spend some time getting to know XP or Linux because Windows 98 can't go on forever. It will join Windows 95 and Windows 3 as well. One day Windows XP will find it's self in the OS graveyard as well.

Do you think manufacturers are going to continue to make their software compatable with Windows 98? What will you do when your favorite program goes away? I like to be on the forefront of technology. I own the newest of everything I can get my hands on. I dread the day my daughters are able to show me something that I didn't know.

For those of you who say "I'm not going to make computers my career..." I have news for you. It's everyone's career. I won't hire someone who can't type and doesn't have basic knowledge of the systems they are required to use every day.

I wish all of you Windows 98 users the best of luck. Enjoy it while it lasts...