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:yes: Theres over 6,014 Files in 98se the killer replacement adds 614 is there any more usefull me files that could be added like more core enhanements and such or does 614 just about cover the amount of Me usualbe files in me?

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what does that file do?
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yes, what DOES that file do-- is it hopefully the MEwer files that are to replace the olSEr ones? That'd be vvveerrryyyy useful....


EDIT: thasa text list of all/each files in win98se install disc...

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include a basic documentation for these files will you plz...hehe
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tim_horton:
Theres over 6,014 Files in 98se the killer replacement adds 614 is there any more usefull me files that could be added like more core enhanements and such or does 614 just about cover the amount of Me usualbe files in me?

You need to understand that it doesn't matter how many files are on the WinME Setup CD, the only thing that matters is how many can ACTUALLY BE USED with Win98SE. :)
I've been doing this for almost 4 years, so I've pretty much reached the limit [615]. Even if it were 6000 or more, it doesn't matter.
All it matters is that the particular 615 *do* work with 98SE, and we should all be happy that they do, because this is the *only* way we can get a better/faster/etc 98SE. :)
I've spent countless hours testing just 1 or a small group of ME files on 98SE, and if they did work I've kept them, and then added them to my list.
That's how [if you have read the topic at my site] I came up with the NO-NO list [files you should NEVER replace].

BTW:
If you want to see the full lists [in plain TXT format] of all Win9x/ME installation files contained inside the CABs, please go to this page, and then download this ZIP [171 KB].

Hope this helps.

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MDGx, i reached your site (pretty interesting, i'm reading your text files) by this board, and i'm about to try your 98se2me + 98seSP2b3 on my 32mb ram laptop.
is that a good idea? i'm looking for speed rather than functionality; so, do you recommend it?

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Why i haven't seen anyb adding Me shell (SHELL32.DLL and stuff) files? To me it looks way better than 98.

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the sp ads the w2k color scheme and w2k icons so it would look like w2k
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There are some more advantages besides color scheme.

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cozetti:
MDGx, i reached your site (pretty interesting, i'm reading your text files) by this board, and i'm about to try your 98se2me + 98seSP2b3 on my 32mb ram laptop.
is that a good idea? i'm looking for speed rather than functionality; so, do you recommend it?

This is entirely your choice.
98SE2ME is not only about speed, it improves/adds to the Win98SE OS in many ways.
See the guide:
http://www.mdgx.com/98-5.htm#KRM9S
to learn which files are replaced.

About 98SE SP 2.0 b3 + all other versions:
they belong to Gape.
Please see the appropriate MSFN topic for details:
http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=37455

Hope this helps.

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Tihiy:
Why i haven't seen anyb adding Me shell (SHELL32.DLL and stuff) files? To me it looks way better than 98.

Because unfortunately SHELL32.DLL and other system files from WinME are incompatible with Win98SE. :(
If you find a way to successfully replace SHELL32.DLL, please let me know.

Hope this helps.

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2MDGx
Hm, don't have 98 system now, so try this in virtual system or make backups of everything!

1) Please make sure you have at least IE 5.5 installed.
2) Now, get these files from ME:
EXPLORER.EXE
COMDLG32.DLL
SHELL32.DLL
3) Run regsvr32 /u shdoc401.dll
3.5) Run regsvr32 /u shell32.dll
4) Exit to MS-DOS, delete shdoc401.dll & shd401lc.dll (from \system)
5) Replace explorer.exe in \windows, shell&comdlg32 in \system
6) Run windows
there are 3 ways:
(1): show taskbar&hangs - make "shell=command.com" in system.ini; proceed (3)
(2): show nothing&crash - oops! roll back everything! my fault!
(3): works great or almost no errors: run regsvr32 /i shell32.dll; reboot&let shell=explorer.exe if you've changed it.
if there are errors, try to run regsvr32 /i shdocvw.dll, regsvr32 /i browseui.dll ...

hope this helps to great pack.

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2MDGx, stop!
I recollected! To upgrade 98 shell to Me easier way, do the following:
extract layout*.inf & ieshell.inf from precopy1.cab to Me folder.
open ieshell.inf, change [Millshell_Inst] to [DefaultInstall].

Right-click it & select "Install". Select Me original files. Reboot. Enjoy!

[hm: you can forget previous post except number 4) - you can delete shdoc401.dll & shd401lc.dll for sure]

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Tihiy Posted on Jan 30 2005, 06:17 PM
  2MDGx, stop!
I recollected! To upgrade 98 shell to Me easier way, do the following:
extract layout*.inf & ieshell.inf from precopy1.cab to Me folder.
open ieshell.inf, change [Millshell_Inst]to [DefaultInstall].

Right-click it & select "Install". Select Me original files. Reboot. Enjoy!

[hm: you can forget previous post except number 4) - you can delete shdoc401.dll & shd401lc.dll for sure]

Very interesting:

I only have shdoc401.dll, and it obviously is not in use / or corrupted-- it has a folder icon... Maybe i should delete it??

I'm really tempted to try....wondering about this vis a vis the patched explorer.exe we now have....

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First of all a big Thank You to Tihiy :thumbup

It did work :w00t:

i just got a real speed boost

I followed these steps

1) Please make sure you have at least IE 5.5 installed.
2) Now, get these files from ME:
EXPLORER.EXE
COMDLG32.DLL
SHELL32.DLL
3) Run regsvr32 /u shdoc401.dll
3.5) Run regsvr32 /u shell32.dll
4) Exit to MS-DOS, delete shdoc401.dll & shd401lc.dll (from \system)
5) Replace explorer.exe in \windows, shell&comdlg32 in \system
6) Run windows

And i ended up here

(3): works great or almost no errors:


The Start Menu/My Computer may act weired upon restarting. So make sure you have/make a Batch file with these entries on your desktop.

regsvr32 /i shell32.dll
regsvr32 /i shdocvw.dll
regsvr32 /i browseui.dll .


Run the batch file.

Restart Windows & Watch Windows Fly. :w00t:

To really benefit from "98SE2ME: Killer Replacements" you should try this method.

Hopefully MDGx will add this to the next version of "98SE2ME: Killer Replacements".

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2All!!!
I recommed using 2nd method because it also changes:
Web View
Document Promerties
My Documents
Thumbnail View
and etc., it's official and 100% no risky.

You should delete shdoc401.dll&shd401lc.dll *ONLY* if you have installed Me shell. 98 shell depends on it!!!

Edit:also, to supress errors during 2nd method - extract ATL.DLL from Me to \system directory first.

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Tihiy

Can you explain a little more about the second method. I can't get it working. I did change [Millshell_Inst] to [DefaultInstall]. But when i right click & select install nothing happens. Am i doing something wrong here?

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[BaseWinOptions]Millshell_Inst
[DestinationDirs]
SystemFiles          = 11
MusicSysFiles  = 11
WinFiles                = 25
MSINF                = 17
Inf.DelFiles            = 17
[Millshell_Inst] - change it to [DefaultInstall]

Hm. I don't know. Works for me. Watch spelling&be sure to extract layout.inf,layout1.inf&layout2.inf from cab.

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Ok-- finally worked: the trick was editing that second Millshell-- not the first one!

Everything is much faster-- really: both OS interface, browsing / page loads....

BBBBUUUUTTTTTT............... one very bad thing:

startup--- the desktop takes forever to refresh; the icons all appear at once, but then they glacially change over from the generic windows........ I do btw, have max icon, folder, patch cache settings enabled.

Correction: i did before have the shdoc401 dll's, and the reason they had a folder icon is because i'd applied a reg patch so that they'd show their embedded icons... i think it was an MDGx tip.

I would recommend the shell change to everyone-- be sure to extract those inf files to that same winme directory. I can put up w/ the slow load at startup-- though hopefully there's a fix for it.

I took a great risk by not cloning windows-- if something happens, MDGx says win98 wouldn't install to that same directory.... but i had faith in Tihiy run this app w/ the following switch : xxcopy32 /clone http://www.xxcopy.com/index.htm

Good show, Tihiy!!!

Go for it, everyone!!!!!!

OH, i used copylock to replace the relevant files & delete the needed ones all at once: http://noeld.com/programs.asp?cat=misc and X-teq Com Register Ex to register the other everythign all at once too: http://www.xteq.com/...mregisterex.zip

DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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CONS:

1. already-stated glacial desktop load at startup
2. my computer shows no web folders, though gmail drive is there...
3. cd drive labeled "compact disc"

PROS:

a ton of them:
explorer's different settings are much improved.....
everything is much faster....
here's an improvement over 98:

I personally always chafed under the 15 max recent doc shortcuts in start/documents-- now you can set that # to as much as you wish:

for current user only:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\
Explorer]

for everyone:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\
Explorer]

if there isn't already a value called: MaxRecentDocs create a new DWord value with that name & exact spelling(you can copy/paste) & whatever number you wish. ..you can even use this to shorten the number shown(default is 15) or eliminate them altogether! And do yourself a favor, do it with this app(you'll see why): http://www.vsft.com/regexp/

If you have X-Setup you can perform this from within it as well.

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delete, never mind.

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delete, never mind.

What does that mean?!

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Sorry, we can't we delete our own posts? I had thought the shell change had deleted a couple of other files, but was mistaken. The change has worked grreat!

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Well i just installed the Windows ME Networking Errors VNETBIOS.VXD Fix. Just extract the exe to a folder of ur choice & edit the 272991UP.INF file. Comment out all references to qfecheck. Right click & select install. Use caution though other Me updates may not work using this method.

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Here we go again..

I updated all the files inside SYSTEM32/DRIVERS with the newer Me one's. I don't have any problems. So i guess u guys can safely try this at home!.




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