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#41 User is offline   mrnxdmx 

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Posted 11 February 2005 - 07:15 AM

Can sb post his HFINT.dat file here to check it is the same.


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Posted 11 February 2005 - 07:33 AM

beppemito, on Feb 11 2005, 12:47 AM, said:

i've this in my HFINT:

KB834707=SP2GDR
[KB834707]
mshtml.dll
urlmon.dll
browseui.dll
shdocvw.dll
wininet.dll

can i delete this? why i've got 867282....

anyone?

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Posted 11 February 2005 - 07:37 AM

IceManND,

I got the NetFrameWork down to 11.4 thanks to EvilVoice's Advice.

i am uploading 2a ftp site now i will give u a link later.

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the guide on page one is so simple... u can use nlite to install the first
hotfix then pull it out
use nlite again to install the rest of the hotfix.

integrate the code. that is it. :)

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Posted 11 February 2005 - 09:52 PM

Well in an attempt to find a solution I brought this up with M$ and rcvd the following response.

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Thank you for taking the time to reply.

I understand that Hotfix KB885250 and Hotfix KB885835 cannot be integrated.

I have performed further research on this issue and this feature is by design.

Based on the current situation, we have two options:

1. We can wait for Service Pack 3 which will be the next Service Pack and Microsoft will release it in the near feature. All the hotfixes will be included in Service Pack 3 and this issue will be fixed in SP3.
2. We can choose either of the hotfixes to be integrated. Actually, both the hotfixes are not of the final version.


Please let me know if you have any further questions or concerns on this issue.

Thank you for your cooperation. I am looking forward to your reply.

2 is kind of scary: Actually, both the hotfixes are not of the final version.

Yet they have released it anyhow. So would that make them BETA?

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Posted 11 February 2005 - 10:20 PM

:wacko:

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Posted 12 February 2005 - 04:37 AM

One question concerning hotfixes :

When do u use SVCPACK.INF Method or Nlite , do u still see which hotfixes are installed under "add / remove programs" ?

I've tried nlite, but i don't see anything under "add/remove programs" after integrating hotfixes.

thx

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Posted 12 February 2005 - 04:44 AM

now that is an interesting question.

i know that if i integrate manually using the /integrate command
i dont see it in add remove programs

which means i think if u follow the guide at msfn.org u will see
the hotfixes in add remove but why would u?

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Posted 12 February 2005 - 04:51 AM

I want to see which hotfixes are installed on the computers of my compagny.

With nlite i dont see that. i'll try the old SVCPACK.INF method.

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Posted 12 February 2005 - 05:44 AM

ouch too time consuming to do that.

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Posted 12 February 2005 - 08:04 AM

if you run a hotfix with the /L switch it will tell you what hotfixes are installed.

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Posted 13 February 2005 - 08:28 AM

Well i dont see which updates are installed in add/remove progs with the SVCPACK.INF method... :/

But i prefer this method. It s easier to maintain than integrating all hotfixes (with nlite for ex.)

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Posted 13 February 2005 - 12:17 PM

The Ongoing saga: Apparently my case was escalated with M$ after I questioned the statement that the updates were not final. Here is the latest response. names and case numbers were changed.

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Thank you for contacting Microsoft Online Support. My name is Xxxxxx, and I am an Escalation Engineer for the Windows Support Team. In order to better serve you and resolve this issue more efficiently, I have taken ownership of your Service Request. I appreciate the time and effort you have taken on this service request.

Going forward, I will be working with you to address the issue as soon as possible. To contact me, you may directly send emails to my account: xxxxxxx@mssupport.microsoft.com with the case ID SRZxxxxxxxxxxx.

As I understand, Windows Update 885250 cannot be integrated to a folder after Windows Update 885835 is integrated to that folder.

I would like to explain that neither 885250 nor 885835 is a beta update. Microsoft keeps release Windows Update to improve the security of the systems. Xxxxxx means that Microsoft will still release updates to update the files updated by 885250 if a potential problem is found in the files. The updates are fully tested before they are released.

To provide you with the most accurate support, please let me know the error message appears when you try to use the \integrate switch to integrate the update to the folder.

Please capture a screenshot when the issue happens:
1) Press the Print Screen key (PrtScn) on your keyboard.
2) Click Start, click Run, type MSPAINT, and click OK.
3) In Paint, click Paste under the Edit menu, click Save under the File menu, type a file name for the snap shot, choose JPEG as "Save as type", and click Save.
4) Please send this file to the email account: xxxxxx@mssupport.microsoft.com
 
Please try the suggestions above on your side and provide me with the results at your earliest convenience. If anything in my e-mail is unclear or you need further help, don't hesitate to let me know. It is my pleasure to be of assistance.

I am looking forward to your reply.


I have just finish taking his snapshots, I did one whith 885835 first and another with 885250 first, the exact same error, but just for his reference. I actually installed the hotfixes in different orders, one numerically the other but release date.

Will post any response.

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 01:31 PM

Perhaps you like my new tool:

Hotfix Integrate Tool

See you soon.

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Posted 16 February 2005 - 02:12 PM

any update on this? I still got this problem. :(

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Posted 16 February 2005 - 02:42 PM

Have not yet heard anything back from microsoft. Currently the only solutions are posted in opening post or the hotfix integrate tool, or one of the othe cd creation tools here. As soon as M$ replaies I will post the info here.

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Posted 16 February 2005 - 02:51 PM

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This post has been edited by warrax: 27 December 2009 - 12:52 AM


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Posted 16 February 2005 - 03:04 PM

Note that it is simply the "/integrate" function of the hotfix that is at fault. Slipstreaming manually, using Microsoft's method described HERE works fine for me.

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Posted 16 February 2005 - 03:39 PM

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This post has been edited by warrax: 27 December 2009 - 12:52 AM


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Posted 16 February 2005 - 04:05 PM

Da bumms! They seemed to have updated that document since I last looked, adding the "/integrate" switch thingy, which is just not good enough for The GreenMachine!

So ... the method I use seems to still be described HERE, called The Combination Installation. Note it is also desribed on the document I linked to in my previous post, just pretend the desired hotfix has an older UPDATE.EXE

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If you want to integrate software updates that use Update.exe versions earlier than 5.4.15.0, follow steps 6 through 13 to integrate these updates.


Hope that clears things up ...

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Posted 16 February 2005 - 04:20 PM

We had to disable auto updates to all 2000/xp computers because, of this. This one would not let mapped drives work. We could also not reconnect. So we had to unisntall and disable it. What would this be about? We are sing an appleshare server.

Be careful with the KB885250 one it's bad for some networking types.

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