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How-to: Integrate And Shrink Nero + Nve Rate Topic: -----

#1 User is offline   vcBlackBox 

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Posted 02 March 2005 - 07:50 PM

Integrate and Shrink Nero Package 1: Nero Burning ROM & Nero Package 2: NeroVision Express

PURPOSE

1) Integrate both packages together, thereby removing redundant files and reducing overall filesize.
2) Customize Nero Applications. You choose which applications you want to keep or get rid of.
3) Incorporate your SN and any tweaks you may wish to apply to the final Installer.
4) Automate the repackaging of Nero and NVE using 7-Zip.

INSTRUCTIONS

1) Extract NeroNVE_Builder.rar into the same directory where Nero-6.0.0.13.exe and NVE-3.1.0.7.exe is residing. To be safe, please make sure no other files are present in this directory.

2) Open Nero+NVE_Installer.cmd in notepad and replace /SN=XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX with your SN. Exit and save. You may ignore the plug-ins SN section if you don't have one.

3) Run Nero+NVE_Builder.exe and answer a few simple questions.
In a matter of few minutes you will have created a fully customized, registered, switchless, and silent installer.

STATS
Nero-6.6.0.13.exe + NVE-3.1.0.7.exe = 67.5 MB

7-Zip (Ultra) Rebuild (ALL Nero Applications included) = 37.9 MB
Difference: 29.6 MB and 78% better than Ahead's two setup package method.

7-Zip (Ultra) Rebuild (Nero&NVE only) = 26.1 MB
Difference: 41.4 MB and 159% better than Ahead's two setup package method.

Requirements:
WinRAR 7-Zip(latest 4.xx Beta Version)
Windows XP/2003 English Edition

Download:
http://rapidshare.de...uilder.rar.html

Revisions:
v1.50 No UPX compression. Minor changes and enhancements for newest versions.
v1.41 Remove three Redist files for smaller setup size. Minor bugfixes in CleanUp section.
v1.40 Updated script for new setup routine in Nero-6.6.0.12.exe and NVE-3.1.0.0d.exe
NOTE: This version is no longer backward compatible with older versions of Nero & NVE.
v1.32 Added 7-Zip normal compression choice for users with older machines.
v1.31 Minor bug fixes
v1.30 Revised script to reduced the number of steps. Now's even easier.
v1.20 Simplified entire process, introduced prompt driven menu, script to automate 7zip repackaging.
v1.11 Minor tweak fixes
v1.10 Removed Recode from default install, Autoplay features are optional
v1.01 NeroBurnPlugin.dll issue fixed. Updated Guide

This post has been edited by vcBlackBox: 14 May 2005 - 01:20 PM



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Posted 02 March 2005 - 11:42 PM

hi your script seems to run perfectly fine, when i tested it the standard way as you stated

but then i altereed it to instal cover designer also,

then on testing it that way i was prompted with this error message

Install Error
NeroBurnPlugin.dll could not be registered

im curious do you know where i went wrong, all i did was remove the section that deletes anything to do with cover designer

this was all that was removed from the

Nero+NVE_Installer.cmd

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::      --------------------------------
::              Cover Designer
::      --------------------------------
reg delete "HKCU\Software\Ahead\Cover Designer" /f

reg delete "HKCR\.ncd" /f
reg delete "HKCR\.nct" /f
reg delete "HKCR\CLSID\{59FA1D1E-3B4C-4311-BB1B-7BF16C607388}" /f
reg delete "HKCR\COVEREDCTRL.CoverEdCtrl.1" /f
reg delete "HKCR\Interface\{55522D2C-8DA4-4FB3-AB1F-3E9A904E36A1}" /f
reg delete "HKCR\Interface\{55C533E2-DB27-467E-ABE2-B679E56AA21D}" /f
reg delete "HKCR\TypeLib\{8EFB3D26-D0BA-429A-9BC7-1800E48E7068}" /f
reg delete "HKCR\Nero Cover Designer.Document" /f
reg delete "HKCR\Nero Cover Designer.Template" /f
reg delete "HKCR\NeroCDCoverType" /f

reg delete "HKLM\Software\Ahead\Shared" /v "CoverDesignerComponent" /f
reg delete "HKLM\Software\Ahead\Cover Designer" /f
reg delete "HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\NCoverEd.exe" /f

reg delete %DLL% /v "C:\Program Files\Ahead\CoverDesigner\CoverDes.exe" /f
reg delete %DLL% /v "C:\Program Files\Ahead\CoverDesigner\CoverEdCtrl.ocx" /f
reg delete %DLL% /v "C:\Program Files\Ahead\CoverDesigner\covered-deu.nls" /f
reg delete %DLL% /v "C:\Program Files\Ahead\CoverDesigner\covered-jpn.nls" /f
reg delete %DLL% /v "C:\Program Files\Ahead\CoverDesigner\LSTemplates\Audio_Content.nct" /f
reg delete %DLL% /v "C:\Program Files\Ahead\CoverDesigner\NeroCoverDesigner_fra.chm" /f
reg delete %DLL% /v "C:\Program Files\Ahead\CoverDesigner\Templates\Data.nct" /f

regsvr32 /s /u CoverEdCtrl.ocx
rd /s /q "%ProgramFiles%\Ahead\CoverDesigner"
del "%AllUsersProfile%\Start Menu\Programs\Nero\Nero 6 Ultra Edition\Nero Cover Designer.lnk"
del "%AllUsersProfile%\Start Menu\Programs\Nero\NeroVision Express 3\Nero Cover Designer.lnk"


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Posted 03 March 2005 - 12:01 AM

@Lost Soul

if you want to keep certain programs, you'll have to edit the 0-byte_nero.cmd too.

comment or delete the coverdesigner section.

hmmm, it seems you're having a problem with the NeroBurnPlugin.dll. I would suggest you also delete the last two lines of the 0-byte_nero.cmd where it says

'>"WMPBurn\NeroBurnPlugin.dll"
'>"WMPBurn\WMPBurn.exe"

You'll need to extract from the orginal files again. So you'll need to repeat the instructions from the beginning.

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Posted 03 March 2005 - 12:09 AM

lol yes i added the orginal files for the cover designer, so they wouldnt be zero but he strange thing that hit me was that dll error,,, right now im adding those orginal files back also and retesting.

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Posted 03 March 2005 - 12:17 AM

ok i finished my retest and it works great, with that little alteration no errors at all

nice work vcBlackBox :)

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  Posted 03 March 2005 - 12:22 AM

removed by me

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Posted 03 March 2005 - 12:44 AM

Great guide and well-documented files to accompany it. - 10/10

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Posted 03 March 2005 - 12:45 AM

Thankx everyone for all your positive feedbacks. I do appreciate it. :)
Hopefully very little or no modifications is necessary for future releases.

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Posted 03 March 2005 - 02:46 AM

@vcBlackBox

here is an alternative method you may be interested in :hello:

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showto...ndpost&p=281732

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Posted 03 March 2005 - 03:01 AM

nice guide.. :D 5/5

EDIT: not trying 2 hijack the thread, but could someone send me there nve (original, not shrinked) seems i get a bad download or something from nero, cuz everytime i run the program it crashes :( after installing it, it only happens with 3.1.0.0

EDIT: nvm :blushing:

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Posted 03 March 2005 - 05:24 AM

I'm currently in the process of testing this method WITH integrated languagepack.

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Posted 03 March 2005 - 06:51 AM

Succes!!

Quick guide:

Unpack all languagepacks (wich you want to have) to a directory (like c:\nero_setup)
After every unpack, rename the file setup.cfg to one of the following:

Nero Language pack: LngNero.bak
Nero Vision Express Language Pack: LngNve.bak
Nero Media Player Language Pack: LngMp.bak

After the unpacking of the last languagepack, rename the file setup.exe to LngSetup.exe

!!Continue with the first post of this thread!!

Before you make the 7zip archive, you edit the file Nero+NVE_Installer.cmd

Replace the header with the one below.
@echo off
cmdow @ /hid
title Nero Package 1, 2 and 3 All-in-One Script (Installer, Register, Tweaks, and CleanUp)


::  ############################################################################
::      author: vcBlackBox
::      email: vcBlackBox@yahoo.com
::  ############################################################################


echo.
echo    -----------------------------------
echo       Nero Package 1, 2 and 3 Setup
echo    -----------------------------------
echo.

cmd /c start /wait setup.exe /SFX /SILENT=1 /SILENT /SN=XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX /WRITE_SN /NO_UI /NOCANCEL /NOREBOOT

cmd /c ren Setup.cfg SetupNro.bak
cmd /c ren SetupNve.bak Setup.cfg

cmd /c start /wait setup.exe /SFX /SILENT=1 /SILENT /SN=XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX /WRITE_SN /NO_UI /NOCANCEL /NOREBOOT

cmd /c ren Setup.cfg SetupNve.bak
cmd /c ren SetupMp.bak Setup.cfg

cmd /c start /wait setup.exe /SFX /SILENT=1 /SILENT /SN=XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX /WRITE_SN /NO_UI /NOCANCEL /NOREBOOT

echo.
echo      ------------------------------------------
echo        Nero Language package 1, 2 and 3 setup
echo      ------------------------------------------
echo.

cmd /c ren Setup.exe NroSetup.exe
cmd /c ren LngSetup.exe Setup.exe
cmd /c ren Setup.cfg SetupMp.bak
cmd /c ren LngNero.bak Setup.cfg

cmd /c start /wait setup.exe /SILENT /NOREBOOT

cmd /c ren Setup.cfg LngNero.bak 
cmd /c ren LngNve.bak Setup.cfg

cmd /c start /wait setup.exe /SILENT /NOREBOOT

cmd /c ren Setup.cfg LngNve.bak
cmd /c ren LngMp.bak Setup.cfg

cmd /c start /wait setup.exe /SILENT /NOREBOOT

::      --------------------------------
::        Nero Plug-ins Serial Numbers
::      --------------------------------

:: reg add "HKLM\Software\Ahead\Plug-ins\BackItUp\Info" /v "Serial6" /d "XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX" /f
:: reg add "HKLM\Software\Ahead\Plug-ins\Dolby Digital (5.1)\Info" /v "Serial6" /d "XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX" /f
:: reg add "HKLM\Software\Ahead\Plug-ins\HE-AAC\Info" /v "Serial6" /d "XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX" /f
:: reg add "HKLM\Software\Ahead\Plug-ins\MP3\Info" /v "Serial6" /d "XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX" /f
:: reg add "HKLM\Software\Ahead\Plug-ins\mp3PRO\Info" /v "Serial6" /d "XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX" /f
:: reg add "HKLM\Software\Ahead\Plug-ins\MPEG2\Info" /v "Serial6" /d "XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX" /f
:: reg add "HKLM\Software\Ahead\Plug-ins\MPEG2\Info" /v "Serial6_2" /d "XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX" /f
:: reg add "HKLM\Software\Ahead\Plug-ins\Multichannel\Info" /v "Serial6" /d "XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX" /f
:: reg add "HKLM\Software\Ahead\Plug-ins\Nero Digital Universal\Info" /v "Serial6" /d "XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX" /f
:: reg add "HKLM\Software\Ahead\Plug-ins\Parental Control\Info" /v "Serial6" /d "XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX" /f
:: reg add "HKLM\Software\Ahead\Plug-ins\Windows Media Player\Info" /v "Serial6" /d "XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX" /f

::      -----  Shows the real CD-recording speed in Nero  (ie:  21.6x writing speed)  -----
reg add "HKCU\Software\Ahead\Nero - Burning Rom\Recorder" /v ShowSingleRecorderSpeed /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f


Continue with the first post of this thread.

Have Fun.

p.s. a more detailed post will come later today

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Posted 03 March 2005 - 09:44 AM

thank you

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Posted 03 March 2005 - 03:23 PM

Completed the guide.

download it at: this site

In the zipfile is a pdf-file and another zipfile. read the pdf-file before extracting the other zipfile

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Posted 03 March 2005 - 07:13 PM

eagle00789, on Mar 3 2005, 03:23 PM, said:

Completed the guide.

download it at: this site

In the zipfile is a pdf-file and another zipfile. read the pdf-file before extracting the other zipfile
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>


I'm glad you found my script useful and adapted for different languages and package 3,
but please remove your serial number from your batch file and mention that the changes you've made was edited by you.
And as a courtesy, please provide a link so users who want to view my original guide can do so http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=40518&st=0

Thanks

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Posted 04 March 2005 - 05:07 AM

vcBlackBox, on Mar 3 2005, 07:13 PM, said:

but please remove your serial number from your batch file
Done

vcBlackBox, on Mar 3 2005, 07:13 PM, said:

and mention that the changes you've made was edited by you.
is already done in the .pdf-file. just look at the bottom of the file.

vcBlackBox, on Mar 3 2005, 07:13 PM, said:

And as a courtesy, please provide a link so users who want to view my original guide can do so http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=40518&st=0
will add that

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Posted 04 March 2005 - 02:05 PM

Great stuff... pity I now decided I dont need/want Recode... My Zodiac (Palm machine) wont play 25fps videos so Recode is no use....

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Posted 04 March 2005 - 08:54 PM

Methanoid, on Mar 5 2005, 04:05 AM, said:

Great stuff... pity I now decided I dont need/want Recode... My Zodiac (Palm machine) wont play 25fps videos so Recode is no use....
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Methanoid,

You could use the batch method i wrote (Details here) and then remove the references to recode and nve - you would then get exactly what you want :thumbup

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Posted 06 March 2005 - 02:05 PM

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Great stuff... pity I now decided I dont need/want Recode... My Zodiac (Palm machine) wont play 25fps videos so Recode is no use....
Done. Updated my new version to remove Recode.

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You could use the batch method i wrote (Details here) ...

Felix, this is not a knock on you or your hard work, but I think that your foundation (ZileXa method) is flawed.

ZileXa method simply does not account for the vast number of registry changes that occurs during Nero setup. Granted some applications respective reg entries are superfluous. But take CoverDesigner for example, it registers an ActiveX Control which without going thru the normal setup process those reg keys will not be created. Have a look at my cleanup script for Nero/NVE and you'll know what I'm talking about. And those are only the keys I want to get rid of, the number of keys I want to keep are just as many.

In addition, you lose some functionality and plugin capablities as well.
I've tried ZileXa method and first impressions were okay, but upon further testing some functions such as recoding a non-compliant SVCD or VCD video simply fails.

Again, no disrespect for your work, just mentioning some facts and some experiences I had.

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Posted 06 March 2005 - 07:14 PM

vcBlackBox, on Mar 7 2005, 04:05 AM, said:

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Great stuff... pity I now decided I dont need/want Recode... My Zodiac (Palm machine) wont play 25fps videos so Recode is no use....

Done. Updated my new version to remove Recode.

Quote

You could use the batch method i wrote (Details here) ...
Felix, this is not a knock on you or your hard work, but I think that your foundation (ZileXa method) is flawed.

ZileXa method simply does not account for the vast number of registry changes that occurs during Nero setup. Granted some applications respective reg entries are superfluous. But take CoverDesigner for example, it registers an ActiveX Control which without going thru the normal setup process those reg keys will not be created. Have a look at my cleanup script for Nero/NVE and you'll know what I'm talking about. And those are only the keys I want to get rid of, the number of keys I want to keep are just as many.

In addition, you lose some functionality and plugin capablities as well.
I've tried ZileXa method and first impressions were okay, but upon further testing some functions such as recoding a non-compliant SVCD or VCD video simply fails.

Again, no disrespect for your work, just mentioning some facts and some experiences I had.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Hi vcBlackBox,

I take no ofference and appeciate your feedback and comments. I agree there is a lot of issues with the base implementation, and i am slowly working through them. I like challenges :) It was like the recode issue - everyone said you can't do it that way it will not work... well after much testing and monitoring i found the dll's that needed to be registed. When you register the dll's a huge number of registry entries are generated. Anyway it is an alternative method and i am working through the problems and bugs as they come to hand. I haven't given up yet :) and there hasn't been anything that i haven't been able to solve yet....

Having a look at your work, i take my hat off to you - very good stuff... and i need to look more closely at it when i get some time... may give me some ideas on how to resolve some other stuff for my variant.

Anyway take care and thanks again for your comments.

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