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Nero Source Stripper And Custom Install Builder Build the installer the simple way Rate Topic: ***** 1 Votes

#151 User is offline   iwod 

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Posted 18 April 2005 - 05:48 PM

Ctwizzy, on Apr 18 2005, 02:11 PM, said:

Which is the "better" method for Nero, Felix or Simonsays for a regular installation?

I know Felix's requires WinRAR to be installed, and Simonsays is just a SFX, im just curious?
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i can't remember correctly, but as far as i know there is only 2 method so far. 0 byte file to replace the orginal file and Felix method.

0 Byte no longers works with 6.x.x.8 or later.


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Posted 18 April 2005 - 07:27 PM

Ctwizzy, on Apr 19 2005, 04:11 AM, said:

I know Felix's requires WinRAR to be installed, and Simonsays is just a SFX, im just curious?
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Sorry but that is incorrect - if you read the whole thread you would find that the requirement for winrar was removed at the last update of the scripts. You can use either winrar or 7-zip. - Just thought i would clear that up.

As for the best version... That would depend on your specific requirements and preferences. Try both and test, test, test and then you will know the answer to your valuable question. :thumbup

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Posted 19 April 2005 - 03:54 AM

i get most of the shortcuts but none for the toolkit.

it's a very nice installer. :)

#154 User is offline   eegor 

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Posted 21 April 2005 - 10:08 PM

Hi,

I just got Nero 6 Ultra (full version) on CD because I was tired of problems that Roxio seemed to be causing.

Does anyone know if it's possible to use the custom install builder to do a custom install of this distribution of Nero? I emailed Felix about this, and he was kind enough to suggest that I could copy the files from the CD to my hard drive and follow the directions. Unfortunately, the CD doesn't contain a Nero-6xxx.exe file. There is a Nero.exe file, only 14 MB, compared to the download file's 33 MB. Also, reading the manual, implies that the optional components (Cover Designer, Wave Editor, etc.) must be included in the downloaded Nero-*.exe file, but on the CD, each is in a separate directory, with multiple files and subdirectories. This doesn't look compatible with Nero Custom installer to me, but I hope I'm wrong.

If I can't use the Custom Installer, does anyone have another way to install just the components I want, and avoid a bunch of bloat that I don't need? I've tried searching these forums, but haven't found anything.

If all else fails, can I use the serial number from my CD with the downloaded version.?

Finally, I also want to install InCD 4, but I can't find anything about it in the documentation. or by searching the forums.

I'd really appreciate any help I can get, even if it's just confirmation that I'll have to install the whole, package to get what I want. (Sigh)

Thank you all very much.

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Posted 21 April 2005 - 10:52 PM

eegor, on Apr 22 2005, 12:08 PM, said:

Hi,

I just got Nero 6 Ultra (full version) on CD because I was tired of problems that Roxio seemed to be causing.

Does anyone know if it's possible to use the custom install builder to do a custom install of this distribution of Nero? I emailed Felix about this, and he was kind enough to suggest that I could copy the files from the CD to my hard drive and follow the directions. Unfortunately, the CD doesn't contain a Nero-6xxx.exe file. There is a Nero.exe file, only 14 MB, compared to the download file's 33 MB. Also, reading the manual, implies that the optional components (Cover Designer, Wave Editor, etc.) must be included in the downloaded Nero-*.exe file, but on the CD, each is in a separate directory, with multiple files and subdirectories. This doesn't look compatible with Nero Custom installer to me, but I hope I'm wrong.

If I can't use the Custom Installer, does anyone have another way to install just the components I want, and avoid a bunch of bloat that I don't need? I've tried searching these forums, but haven't found anything.


Ok you will need a modified script to do this... i will have a look at it and post one for you soon. Edit I will send you a PM with the updated file.

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If all else fails, can I use the serial number from my CD with the downloaded version.?
yes you should be able to :) (as long as you have a full version CD and not the OEM version)

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Finally, I also want to install InCD 4, but I can't find anything about it in the documentation. or by searching the forums.

what did you want to know about InCD?

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Posted 22 April 2005 - 09:18 AM

Thanks for the information, Felix. I'll reply to your PM right away.

Please ignore my question about InCD. I had forgotten that it has a separate installer on the CD. No problem. :)

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Posted 06 May 2005 - 04:46 PM

hi around

I thougth you are all cracks in your way and did a great job :thumbup

So, these are my first stepps.

By creating the Nero Custom Build pops an error from winrar ho says, that the
NERO-rar.sfx file is wrong or wrong format?? So i changed it from my folder C:\Programme, caus i used a german one, but also pops an error?
I edit the the needed and !Makeit.cmd set lang=eng to setlang=deu, then eng,
but also pops an error?
I use new Nero-6.6.0.12.exe, NVE-3.1.0.0.exe.
and use winrar3.42 and 3.5 beta 3! both with errors!
So, what is it? Can anyone help me?

Thanks, teks


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Posted 07 May 2005 - 04:00 AM

Hi,

I'm a newbie here, please be patient with me :) I've found this page about Nero Custom Install Builder because I have 6.6.0.6 Ultra and hate all the extra crap. I just want Burning Rom. I've tried the Custom Install Builder, added the dash to Nero*.exe, and the MakeIt.cmd was working, was building the installer, then stopped and there's no file anymore in my Ahead folder. I don't get it. The file was .751 or something, then disappeared. Any ideas? Please help me.

EDIT: Nevermind!! I'm a dumbass. :blushing: I checked my WinRAR settings and it saved the archive....oh nevermind. No problems, worked like a charm! Awesome little program, Felix. THANK YOU!!

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Posted 07 May 2005 - 05:18 AM

OK, now I DO have a problem. I've done the custom install of Nero only, along with Tool Kit. Now, during the burning process I get "Unknown BurnPhase" when it should be "writing to disc" or something, and when it finishes, it should say "files written" or whatever, but I get the same "Unknown Burnphase". But, the burn IS successful. Strange. This hadn't happened on the full installation. Did I leave out something in the custom install? I can't imagine. Any ideas??

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Posted 08 May 2005 - 06:25 PM

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Now, during the burning process I get "Unknown BurnPhase" when it should be "writing to disc" or something, and when it finishes, it should say "files written" or whatever, but I get the same "Unknown Burnphase". But, the burn IS successful.

I have always got the "Unknown BurnPhase" with Nero Custom Install Builder. Someone said it was nero`s fault because ppl using an unmodified installer get the error aswell, but i have just used vcBlackBox`s NCAB and i don`t get the error!
If i install nero with vcBlackBox`s guide and then install nero with felix`s guide over the top i don`t get the "Unknown BurnPhase".
So i think that there must be some missing reg entries or files.
Egon's Dragon, can you give vcBlackBox`s guide a try and see if you still get the error.

Felix, maybe you could compare your nero stripper with vcBlackBox`s. I`ve had a look and can`t get my head round it. :wacko:

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Posted 09 May 2005 - 02:34 AM

Thanks Neanderthal. I'll check out NCAB and give it a try. Do I really need WinRAR AND 7-zip, and can I run it on W2K? Just checking.

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Posted 09 May 2005 - 09:28 AM

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Do I really need WinRAR AND 7-zip, and can I run it on W2K

One or the other in fine and as far as i know you can run it on 2K.
Don`t forget to let us know if you get the error or not with NCAB. :)

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Posted 10 May 2005 - 11:32 AM

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One or the other in fine and as far as i know you can run it on 2K.
Don`t forget to let us know if you get the error or not with NCAB.


Hey Neanderthal, I've used NCAB, installed fine and no, I don't get the "Unknown BurnPhase" in Nero. Felix, any thoughts?

By the way, NCAB wouldn't let me even start without installing 7-zip, but I'm a newbie, so no prob.

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Posted 22 May 2005 - 02:03 PM

I want to provide some follow-up to my question about using the Custom Install Builder with Nero on CD. As Felix suggested, the serial number (registration code?) from the CD worked fine with the downloaded Nero update file. However, I did have one problem using the Installer Builder with only 7-zip installed. !MakeIt.cmd aborted until I remarked out the second line below. Just thought I'd share that with the forum in case it might help someone else.


:: Check to make sure WinRAR/7-Zip is available
:: IF /I not exist "%rarPath%" (set packName=WinRAR & call:packError & EXIT)
IF /I not exist "%packIt%" (call:packError & EXIT)

Thanks for all your help.

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Posted 24 May 2005 - 06:04 PM

Hi Felix how's it going?
i've been away for a while, but I am back again.. I made a new install with the install builder and now get the "Unknown BurnPhase" error... strange because I didn't had this problem before.. using way less regs.
I really wonder what could cause this... I will do some tests in the weekend.
EDIT: it might be because of bad uninstall of previous Nero! not everything in the registry is removed or something... I am going to test on a clean system today.

Neanderthal, on May 9 2005, 01:25 AM, said:

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Now, during the burning process I get "Unknown BurnPhase" when it should be "writing to disc" or something, and when it finishes, it should say "files written" or whatever, but I get the same "Unknown Burnphase". But, the burn IS successful.

I have always got the "Unknown BurnPhase" with Nero Custom Install Builder. Someone said it was nero`s fault because ppl using an unmodified installer get the error aswell, but i have just used vcBlackBox`s NCAB and i don`t get the error!
If i install nero with vcBlackBox`s guide and then install nero with felix`s guide over the top i don`t get the "Unknown BurnPhase".
So i think that there must be some missing reg entries or files.
Egon's Dragon, can you give vcBlackBox`s guide a try and see if you still get the error.

Felix, maybe you could compare your nero stripper with vcBlackBox`s. I`ve had a look and can`t get my head round it. :wacko:
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Posted 28 May 2005 - 03:52 PM

Ok, tested with Nero Burning Rom 6.6.0.13 today. Seems to work great except the 7-zip command.

I don't know what, but my computer can't handle the 7-zip ultra compression. It just get's stuck consuming over 150 MB of ram and using 0-2% cpu usage. Maximum compression (-mx5) does the job with 98% cpu usage and 40 MB ram usage and finishes quick.

BTW, could you please remove the German and Japanese translations out of the package?

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 04:00 PM

hp38user you'll need 512 MB ram memory for 7zip @ Ultra... otherwise process will never finish.. indeed Maximum takes lot less memory, the difference might not even be 1 mb... at least not more then 3 mb...
(extracting goes fast with both ultra and maximum).


@`Felix`:
Just created a new custom Nero... with these apps:
set tlist="CoverDesigner" "Nero Toolkit" "NeroVision"

and added my own serial to register.reg
also disabled quicklaunch icons in post_config:
set enableQL=0


thats all!

Now I still have a very old bug, I thought you found a solution for this long time ago!
- When starting Coverdesigner from Nero Express, I get the error "no Cover Editor installed".

and other bugs:
- no shortcut for NeroVision is created;
- when trying to launch Nerovision (from "C:\Program Files\Ahead\NeroVision\w2k\NeroVision.exe") I get the message "One of the application components could not be loaded, please re-install".
--> The shorcut part of post_config.cmd checks if Ahead\NeroVision\NeroVision.exe exists, but this file isn't in that location! not even in the NVE-3.1.0.7.exe file. It has to be w2k\NeroVision.exe

- no shortcuts for NeroTools (this is strange since the files are there and the .cmd file is correct)
- Unknown BurnPhase error (but I didn't had this in the past! thats before I used the .cmd file, so either it has to do with some modifications in recent Nero builds or something else, but before I used the .cmd file I did do it like this method but without a lot of registation of dlls and stuff.. so it is very strange)

tried this on a clean Dutch WinXP SP2 + dutch RyanVM updatepack.


I actually wanted to test it with Dutch languagepack but I wanted to be sure everything worked without any languagepack and without modifying default lang. in the .cmd file.

Could it be I am having these old bugs because I am on Dutch Windows?

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Posted 09 June 2005 - 09:21 PM

I extracted the Nero files and extracted the Custom Installer Creator into the folder where nero.exe is located and double-clicked makeit.cmd but nothing happened. What am I doing wrong or not doing? I want to remove the following folders:

Nero\Common Files\DSFilters
CoverDesigner
ImageDrive
Nero BackItUp
Nero Soundtrax
Nero StartSmart
Nero ToolKit
Nero Wave Editor
Redist
Setup <Safe to remove?
System <Safe to remove?
WMPBurn
Nero\CDI
DosBootImage.img <safe to remove?
.CHM files
.MSG files
.WAV files
And anything else that does not have to do with extra features besides burning the types of discs mentioned below: (Such as imagegen.dll and karaoke.dll)
I use Nero for Audio, Data and DVD Data and Video.

Please help me out. :)

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Posted 09 June 2005 - 09:30 PM

Jeremy, on Jun 10 2005, 11:21 AM, said:

I extracted the Nero files and extracted the Custom Installer Creator into the folder where nero.exe is located and double-clicked makeit.cmd but nothing happened. What am I doing wrong or not doing?


manual >

How to
1. Extract the contents of the Nero_Custom_Installer_Creator.rar to the same directory as you have saved your Nero-*.exe and (if you are using it) NVE-*.exe. NB The filenames of the source files downloaded from Nero should not be changed as they script looks for the “Nero-*.exe” and “NVE-*.exe”.
2. You will need to edit the register.reg file. The main things to edit are as follows:
"User"="Nero User"
"Company"="Nero AG"
"Serial6"="XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX"
a. Change Nero User to Your Name.
b. Change Nero AG to Your Company/Business Name.
c. Insert your serial number replacing the X’s.
d. Add/remove any additional registry tweaks.

3. Edit the !MakeIt.cmd file variables to suit your requirements.
Make sure the rarPath and zipPath are set correctly. You are not required to have both installed. If you do not have one or the other installed just leave the default setting. See Explanation of !Makeit.cmd User Configuration Variables for more information.

4. Edit the post_config.cmd file variable to suit your requirements.
There is only two variable here – the name of the Folder you want your shortcuts to be presented in and enable/disable Quick launch shortcuts. See Explanation of post_config.cmd User Configuration Variables for more information.

5. Now you are ready to run !MakeIt.cmd.
Command line usage: !Makeit.cmd [/?] [/rar] [/7zip] [/nr]
/H - This information.
/RAR - Use WinRAR for creating the custom nero installation archive.
/7ZIP - Use 7-zip for creating the custom nero installation archive.
/NR - Make custom installer for Nero Burning ROM Only.
The /RAR or 7ZIP options are override options for the default archive utility that you have specified when you have edited the !MakeIt.cmd file (step 2).
The /NR options simply removes everything accept for the common files, and Nero Burning ROM.

5. You have now completed the creation of your custom installer.

This post has been edited by `Felix`: 09 June 2005 - 09:32 PM


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Posted 09 June 2005 - 11:15 PM

Ok, I did all that but nothing happens still.

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