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#1 User is offline   fess 

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Posted 11 March 2005 - 10:14 AM

It is possible to reduce size of BartPe?
For example: i do not need any network support, I need only shell and drive acces.


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Posted 13 March 2005 - 04:29 AM

Try UPX on exe ocx dll and (+ a whole lot more file types) and you can easily free up some space.
For example, all nero 32bit exe file can be UPXed. (Version 6.6.0.8 = 14.6 MB Same version using UPX = 4.17 MB.) Adobe exe and dll files work fine after UPX as well. Acrobat becomes A LOT smaller. Many windows files work fine too.

Be sure to test all programs to be sure they work!! I cannot stress this enough.

I personally use 2 different front ends for UPX. UPX Shell by Darklordz and GUIPex.

Be warned... big files like nero.exe or photoshop.exe can take a long time to compress.

A tip....don't use max compression, use the setting just below max. It will compress much quicker and the size difference between this and max is negligible.

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Posted 13 March 2005 - 07:54 AM

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Thanks for help, I will try to do it.

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Many windows files work fine too.

That mean some files are not work? Which files are not work?

But can I remove some files from windir completely?

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Posted 13 March 2005 - 11:47 AM

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That mean some files are not work? Which files are not work?
Yes some files cannot be compressed by UPX, moreover compressing files "could" slow your system due to the CPU overhead needed to decompress them on the fly.
If you want to reduce to a minimum Hard disk or CD occupied space you must accept some slower working of the system.
You have to go on a trial and error basis, to my best knowledge there is not a list of files "UPXABLE"


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But can I remove some files from windir completely?


Yes, it is possible, but again, to my best knowledge there is not a complete list.
By using nlite on the source directory before making your BartPE you can get rid of MOST of the "unneeded" files.

I have made some experiments with Win 2k, not XP.
As of now I managed to reduce a win2k install to around 75-80 Mb, by removing unneeded files, including network ones and UPXing all was possible.
This was made by trial and error, and on an installed filesystem, so it can be used only as a list of "minimum" files needed, and must be "customized on the hardware (drivers) requirements.
How much of this applies to XP I cannot say.
If you are interested, post again, I will attach a "DIR" of the files.

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Posted 13 March 2005 - 01:15 PM

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By using nlite on the source directory before making your BartPE you can get rid of MOST of the "unneeded" files.
I was try to do it, but BartPe write: "There where 435 errors and 0 warnings" and don't create iso image :(

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If you are interested, post again, I will attach a "DIR" of the files.

I am interested, attach it, please :)
I am using WinXp, but I think Win2K and Xp is not very different.

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Posted 14 March 2005 - 04:23 AM

Ok, here you are.
In the attached file there are three files
NT911dir.txt is a dir /s of a minimal Win2k install WITHOUT WBEM
WINNTdir.txt is a dir /s of a minimal Win2k install with files UPXed and WBEM
WIPdir.txt is a dir /s of the files needed for a certain function (i.e. Control Panel or Add printer)

Please note that in both version I moved the "external" directory "Documents and Settings" inside the NT directory, renaming it to NTDocs and, since there are no programs installed, deleted the "Program Files" folder, AFTER having moved the MSINFO folder inside the NT directory.


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Posted 14 March 2005 - 05:33 AM

jaclaz
Thanks for help.

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 09:12 PM

If you have an OPK there are sample files showing things that can be safely removed from WinPE images. in server sp1 the files are SERVERSP1-REMOVELIST.TXT and XPSP2-REMOVELIST.TXT

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Posted 22 March 2005 - 05:05 AM

Upx its a bad idea.Because programs using memory 2 times with upx

I made only 112 mb without network support.Visit 911 forums

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 03:38 AM

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I made only 112 mb without network support.
I made only ~130 MB :(

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Visit 911 forums

What exactly topic in this forum?
I did not found :(

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Posted 31 March 2005 - 01:08 AM

You could look for example, in the Plugin folder for something by me (Wendy) of the title "delnetwork" or "delnetwk". There's also a "delfonts" plugin, that allows you to add and remove fonts.

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Posted 31 March 2005 - 03:45 AM

In BartPe plugins folder I don't see any plugins with this names.
Can you post link to this plugin?

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Posted 06 April 2005 - 11:25 PM

Try these plugins of mine

http://www.911cd.net...showtopic=10048
This is my shell plugins: these mainly fix up BartPE's lack of timezone, etc.

http://www.911cd.net...?showtopic=8358
Endbuild, and assorted plugins.

http://www.911cd.net...?showtopic=9812
A more recent version.

http://www.911cd.net...?showtopic=8869
Tidy plugins (ie they remove files not required)

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Posted 06 April 2005 - 11:34 PM

i suggested this as a feature to cyrano for his postprocessing plugin... guess he's still working on it.

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Posted 09 April 2005 - 03:28 AM

http://www.911cd.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=9103&hl=

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Posted 25 March 2006 - 09:31 AM

I got exactly what you're looking for, it's a program called batcher that reduces bart pe to some thing smaller.

Using it I made a bart pe 36MB...of couse this takes away practially all uses of bart. But you can make your own script for batcher that will keep the files you need. I use batcher to make bart pe about 50 MB, and it includes only a small cd writer, this way I can mount the whole bart pe iso into ram, then I can remove the disk and still burn cds for backing up data.

Here's the thread talking about batcher
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=15488&st=0

And here's batchers website.
http://batcher.pt.vu/

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