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#1 User is offline   40oz 

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Posted 13 March 2005 - 01:34 PM

I know that this has been talked about already but I can't seem to find the postings. I have Windows XP Media Center Edition on two cds. When I go to install them it doesn't ask me for the second cd. So presumably I have the wrong cd key...But I purchased this version. So what I am curious about is integrating the MediaCTR.cab file into a new copy of my windows xp cd. Since I can't seem to find the posting could someone either post a link to it or help me out a little?

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Posted 14 March 2005 - 10:07 AM

i think cd 2 has bonus stuff on it,then again i'm not quite sure

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Posted 15 March 2005 - 12:20 AM

The 2nd CD is the guts of MCE 2004.

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 04:43 AM

if you have two cds then its windows media center 2005 not 2004. you can add the second cd to the first cd by editing the txtsetup.sif file removing the enterys that say %cd2name% chnage to %cdname% then copy the files and folders to the root directory of the windows cd and it will not ask for the second cd anymore.

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Posted 26 March 2005 - 12:07 PM

Copy the first CD to the HD, and then copy the second CD to the same directory. It will be larger than 700 megabytes, so you must put it on a DVD. If you do not have a DVD burner, you are out of luck.

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Posted 26 March 2005 - 02:56 PM

You don't have to put it on a dvd. It will fit on a cd if you use nlite.
Just don't remove framework or media center will not install correctly.

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Posted 28 March 2005 - 03:52 AM

DaveXP, on Mar 21 2005, 04:13 PM, said:

if you have two cds then its windows media center 2005 not 2004. you can add the second cd to the first cd by editing the txtsetup.sif file removing the enterys that say %cd2name% chnage to %cdname% then copy the files and folders to the root directory of the windows cd and it will not ask for the second cd anymore.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks a lot! Needed this....

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Posted 28 March 2005 - 03:57 AM

WBHoenig, on Mar 27 2005, 02:07 AM, said:

Copy the first CD to the HD, and then copy the second CD to the same directory.  It will be larger than 700 megabytes, so you must put it on a DVD. If you do not have a DVD burner, you are out of luck.
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Exactly! :)

The ISO is about 835 MB and you just have to burn it to a 99 min CD. That's all. (The way I did it).

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Posted 07 April 2005 - 09:31 PM

McoreD, on Mar 28 2005, 03:57 AM, said:

WBHoenig, on Mar 27 2005, 02:07 AM, said:

Copy the first CD to the HD, and then copy the second CD to the same directory.  It will be larger than 700 megabytes, so you must put it on a DVD. If you do not have a DVD burner, you are out of luck.
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Exactly! :)

The ISO is about 835 MB and you just have to burn it to a 99 min CD. That's all. (The way I did it).
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99min cd? WTF.. i didnt think they exist at all. do the major retails have them like bestbuy or compusa

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Posted 07 April 2005 - 10:24 PM

the way i look at it is: if you have a "Media Center PC" you should have a DVD Drive. Seriously, having no DVD drive must mean a weak Media Center. Time to buy a DVD drive imo.

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Posted 08 April 2005 - 12:34 PM

Actually, you could have it all on one normal CD itself. Just delete the junk from the resulting combined set of files:

1. Delete the "Support" and "Valueadd" folders from CD1 to save about 20 MB.
2. Delete the "dotnetfx" folder from CD1 (this one is to be done carefully, I'm not sure if removing .NET framework will still let it work fine) to cut out 40 MB of junk.
3. Delete these folders inside I386 on CD1 - "LANG", "WIN9XMIG", "WIN9XUPG", and "WINNTUPG". Now another 138 MB is chopped off safely (with the limitation that now you can only directly boot from the CD and clean-install, with no option to upgrade an existing Windows OS - which should be fine since the clean-install method is the best method anyway).

4. Delete these folders inside CMPNENTS from CD2 - "NETFX" and "TABLETPC". This should chop off another 98 MB from CD2.


Now see the total size of your MCE 2005 CD (combining both CD1 and CD2) :D
Its just 546 MB now.


Happy?
No need for DVD-writer now, and no need of 99-minute CDs.

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Posted 08 April 2005 - 02:34 PM

good post prathapml this gets asked every week, can we get a clean post like that and have it made a sticky in this section?

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Posted 08 April 2005 - 02:45 PM

No, they can just as well read it I guess.
If they miss it, then hard luck! ;)


Oh, and please don't credit me for above post - I'm just telling the normal slimming as in the uA XP discs with a bit of difference for MCE!

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Posted 09 April 2005 - 08:29 PM

can i use my vlk xp instead of the disc1 from mce05? mce 05 depends on the cd key right?

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Posted 10 April 2005 - 01:53 AM

angel0104, on Apr 10 2005, 07:59 AM, said:

mce 05 depends on the cd key right?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes - but that is only when you use the MCE disc.
When installing from CD1, if you give a MCE key, then you get MCE installed, and if you give an XP Pro retail key, then you get it installed without the MCE extensions.

Using your vlk XP gives you XP pro vlk alone - no way of getting MCE with it.

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Posted 10 April 2005 - 08:44 PM

But do you get WMP10 with it?

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Posted 11 April 2005 - 07:34 AM

If you use the MCE disc1, then you will get WMP10 - no matter if you give an MCE key or XP Pro retail key.

Using a plain XP Pro (or with SP2) disc, however, there's no way an MCE key will work at all, in the first place. And even if it does, you're not going to be prompted to insert CD2, nor get WMP10 pre-installed.




Therefore I'm thinking of moving my uA to an MCE2k5 CD1 as my base (because WMP10 is already present). But then, I can't since MCE does not support joining an ADS domain. Is there anyway to enable domain support on MCE?

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Posted 11 April 2005 - 11:40 AM

You can join a domain during Windows setup if a network card is detected, since CD1 is really just XP Pro SP2.

CD2 is the MCE disk, once that is installed the option to join a domain in System Properties is greyed out, but this has been 'patched' a while ago.

If you do connect to a domain Fast User Switching is disabled and you cannot use a Media Center Extender. :rolleyes:

http://www.neowin.net/comments.php?id=26497&category=main
http://www.vortex-scratchpad.info/

This post has been edited by DigeratiPrime: 11 April 2005 - 11:56 AM


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Posted 11 April 2005 - 01:42 PM

Thanks for that link! Gotta try it out what it suggests now.

Anyways, who cares about media center extender. I don't use fast-user-switching either, since that slows down windows.

The only reason of using MCE2k5 CD1 in place of XPpro CD, is because the MCE disc is already updated and patched and has WMP10 and so on and so on....... Makes unattending/updating it easier.

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Posted 07 June 2005 - 11:09 AM

another way to built a Media Center 2005 CD is to slipstream SP2 to an previous MC Edition ... excuse my post if this technique is well known amoung u guys

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