need advice

[jimbo]

i am about to upgrade my old p3 1ghz for a new P4 ,

went to a pc shop and the sales dude told me that i can OC a P4 1.8ghz (S478) on a asus p4b533 (S478) without playing with the Vcore and wont overheat.

Also told me the mobo support DDR 33mhz but on asus website show DDR 266 support only.

what do you guys think of this?

[Crispy]

Sure you can overclock it without changing the core voltage ... just not very much! When I overclocked my 2.4B @ 2.53 (not very much) i rasied the core voltage from 1.500V to 1.550V ... Works fine

BTW: The price diference between the 1.8 and 2.4 is not so great that it matters ... get a 2.4B in stead

[FthrJACK]

i think salesmen in pc stores lie out of their a** to sell you something, then when they get you hooked on the idea they insist, even tell you its compulsory, to buy some overpriced crap "extended warranty"

point one: usually this "warranty" (often not worth the paper its printed on) costs waaay more than any one component in the machine, when you tell salesmen this they usually look at the floor and then mumble something about lightening strikes.

point two: by the time the "extension" comes into effect the pc will be worth around a quarter what you paid for it, if that (especially if you bought a pc from some large store.. it will be full of cheap, underpowered, OEM parts)

point three: pc salesmen usually know more about washing machines than computers, as often they sell both (comet, currys etc) and more often than not they dont even own their own pc. > see most of the spotty 16 yr old staff in Staples for example, they dont know the difference between an athlon or an intel CPU usually, and think 90min CDR are "specialist" and can only be bought online. (this is true, a staples staff member told me this, he then went on to say they may not even exist..!)

[Snoop]

to true tris always good for a laugh to go in a PC store and watch them trying to take advantage out of people or not know what there talking about.

next time you go in a pc shop ask about hardrives usually they dont have a clue what ata modes are, how the speed of the hardrive in RPM effects the perfromance of the drive and i doubt they even know what the cache of a hardrive is they would propably tell u something about the swapfile in windows

you noticed how most shops sell small hardrives for stupid prices aswell.

bet they would have sold your a pentium with the standard heatsink/fan aswell not knowing that when p4's get to a certain temprature they start to throttle the cpus perfromance to stop overheating.

[MSNwar]

You obviously have never shopped in Media Markt or Pro Markt in Germany. Both stores do not and I repeat do not specialize in computers. But the computer sales area is very special in both stores. They seldom lie, seldom drink, and seldom date people of the opposite sex. w00t What does all that have to with this topic? I mean to say if a salesman cannot be completely honest, drink me under the table, and trick a babe into the backseat of his car then I refuse to buy his wares.