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#21 User is offline   geitbo34 

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Posted 07 April 2005 - 02:07 AM

Dear Benjamin,

WIHU does kick a**. As mentioned by others, it's easy and has a lot of options.
WIHU is the only program I know of that makes a tree-like selection and XOR selections of apps possible. :thumbup :thumbup

Offcourse, your study is most important. Now your fans know, they'll respect a slower progression on your side for sure.

I'm no programmer at all otherwise I would offered my help, but maybe guys like Maelstorm could help you.

Whatever you decide: Thanks for creating WIHU!

Geitbo


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Posted 07 April 2005 - 02:24 AM

Hi Maelstrom,


:hello:

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That brings up a good point, but how? There is no way to specify a donation that I could see. Futhermore, I would buy him a few beers or take him out to a movie or two, but I'm in the United States. So right now the only thing that I can offer is to help work on the software.


Have a look at Benjamin´s Website. At the bottom you will find a donation section with his bank account details.

I also did not fly to Bingen, Germany to have a few beer with him ( how about it, Benjamin? :whistle: ) ....

Bye,
Alex

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Posted 07 April 2005 - 10:12 AM

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I also did not fly to Bingen, Germany to have a few beer with him ( how about it, Benjamin?  :whistle: ) ....
Oh a visit would be nice ;)
But you all here convinced me to continue work on WIHU ... and I decided to follow your wishs :hello:
However, Version 3.0 will be delayed for indefinite time now. I'll try to clean up my current code a bit.

@Maelstorm: Nice proposal to help me.

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but maybe the reason that you do not hear alot about your tool is probably because people don't have problems with it...which is a good thing


Of course I agree. But what I missed a bit were those noobs who always asked "How do I..." questions. There are usually enough of them. But may be such noobs don't use WIHU which is also great :P. I think everyone here using WIHU are more or less competent users which is also good.

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I just thought of something...Taking a page from WPI, why not have the creation tool embedded inside WIHU? There you could just highlight an item, right click to edit, and have a dialog box popup...Or add new sub-tree, etc..., etc.., etc...
Oh no, that would be bad. There should be an extra creation tool.

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And I have a really good idea about the software architecture of WIHU... I noticed in your source code that you are using monilithing programming practices. Why not use objects?


I know, you are right. That was my initially reason for creating Version 3.0 which was entirely in object oriented way (c++, WTL/ATL)
One of the time consuming things was to create new TreeControl which should be at least as capable as current one. It should support riched text, icons and more ... of course Im able to create this, but this would take a long time. It's easier to create such an control from bottom up than reusing windows controls because there are some restrictions by using them. Some things are already done, like resizable property sheet windows (you can find the source on www.codeproject.com in WTL section).

Benjamin Kalytta

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Posted 07 April 2005 - 11:51 AM

BenjaminKalytta, on Apr 7 2005, 08:12 AM, said:

@Maelstorm: Nice proposal to help me.


Thanks.

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but maybe the reason that you do not hear alot about your tool is probably because people don't have problems with it...which is a good thing


Of course I agree. But what I missed a bit were those noobs who always asked "How do I..." questions. There are usually enough of them. But may be such noobs don't use WIHU which is also great :P. I think everyone here using WIHU are more or less competent users which is also good.

Well, most users don't make unattended installs of their software either. :)

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And I have a really good idea about the software architecture of WIHU... I noticed in your source code that you are using monilithing programming practices. Why not use objects?


I know, you are right. That was my initially reason for creating Version 3.0 which was entirely in object oriented way (c++, WTL/ATL)
One of the time consuming things was to create new TreeControl which should be at least as capable as current one. It should support riched text, icons and more ... of course Im able to create this, but this would take a long time. It's easier to create such an control from bottom up than reusing windows controls because there are some restrictions by using them. Some things are already done, like resizable property sheet windows (you can find the source on www.codeproject.com in WTL section).


I'll have a look at it. I got busy so I didn't get to send you that email. But the other part of using objects was that each object in itself would represent one data item. That way, to add data items, all you have to do is create another instance of an object. Depending on how you declare the methods, all the objects will use the same code, but occupy different memory areas for the data. Because the visual layout to the user is in a tree format, have the objects layed out in memory the same way using a double linked binary tree. Then the main loop can "walk the tree" to do things like display or execute. In my opinion, it would also be easier to add functionality to the object model once the program engine was written.

I have found two things that take the most time in any programming project:

1. The user interface.
2. The program engine.

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Posted 07 April 2005 - 06:19 PM

@midiboy: Just try current version.
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It's possible to specify alternative path as an second option instead of just format.
Sorry for not providing english dialog image, but currently my virtual PC where an english windows version is installed on is damaged.

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Posted 10 April 2005 - 10:35 AM

Hi BEnjamin,

thanks for adding this. I will try that soon.

Will this alternative path be used for all the specified shell folders automatically ? If one has specified two or more shell folders, which one will be adapted if not all ?

Thanks,
Alex

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Posted 10 April 2005 - 10:53 AM

It will only adapt to the folder where WIHU detected to be an unformated drive.
In example screen shot above you'll see that this only concerns "My Music" shell folder.

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Posted 10 April 2005 - 06:23 PM

midiboy, on Apr 7 2005, 12:24 AM, said:

Hi Maelstrom,


:hello:

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That brings up a good point, but how? There is no way to specify a donation that I could see. Futhermore, I would buy him a few beers or take him out to a movie or two, but I'm in the United States. So right now the only thing that I can offer is to help work on the software.


Have a look at Benjamin´s Website. At the bottom you will find a donation section with his bank account details.

I also did not fly to Bingen, Germany to have a few beer with him ( how about it, Benjamin? :whistle: ) ....

Bye,
Alex
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I was looking for a PayPal account or something where I could wire a few dollars to him.

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Posted 16 April 2005 - 05:48 PM

Hi Benjamin,

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t's possible to specify alternative path as an second option instead of just format.


I think I found a small bug with this new feature. Sorry ... :)

It is kind of complicated to explain:

I have set the shell folders to be like this in Wihu:

[Environment]

Personal=D:\%ThisUser%
My Video=D:\%ThisUser%\Eigene Videos
My Music=D:\%ThisUser%\Eigene Musik
My Pictures=D:\%ThisUser%\Eigene Bilder
Favorites=D:\%ThisUser%\Favoriten
Desktop=D:\%ThisUser%\Desktop


Now, if the drive D: is NOT formatted, Wihu will correctly present me with the "format/change path" dialog box. Wihu does this 6 times (because there are 6 folders above that point to D:)

I did the following:

The first time, Wihu asked me if it should format or change the path for the Desktop I decided not to format the drive but change the folder from Desktop=D:\%ThisUser%\Desktop to C:\Desktop

The second time Wihu asked me to format or change the path for the next folder I decided to format the drive D. Of course Wihu did so.

Now the problem appeared like this:

Wihu created two Desktop folders: One at D:\%ThisUser%\Desktop AND one at C:\Desktop.

The folder at this location: D:\%ThisUser%\Desktop was also added to the registry as the Desktop folder:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders]
"Desktop"="D:\\Alexander\\Desktop"


However, all the lnk files from the "Default Desktop folder" in D:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Default User\Desktop were copied to this folder:

C:\Desktop

instead. Do you see the problem ?

Maybe it is just a small thing and you are able to fix this without spending too much time ...

Thanks,
Alex

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Posted 17 April 2005 - 08:36 AM

Hi midiboy,

I see the problem and I'll fix this soon ;)
Thx for reporting this.

Benjamin Kalytta

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Posted 17 April 2005 - 09:57 AM

It should be fixed now.
Problem was, that at the time when User profile was copied changed folders were not written back to registry Shell Folders.

Btw. Im consider to add a feature to save selection that is made in format dialog so that selection need to be done only once. I.e. If path was changed from c:\ to d:\ for instance due unformated drive or something, WIHU will save this settings and will not call this dialog again.

Benjamin Kalytta

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Posted 17 April 2005 - 11:31 AM

Hi !

Thanks for fixing this so quickly !

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Btw. Im consider to add a feature to save selection that is made in format dialog so that selection need to be done only once. I.e. If path was changed from c:\ to d:\ for instance due unformated drive or something, WIHU will save this settings and will not call this dialog again.


Very cool ! :-)

:hello:

Bye,
Alex

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