[98SEUser]

It's not my original flash, it's not my flash at all and here is the main problem: I haven't any my own working flashes.
And what I done:
1. Yes, all of them are OK, e.g. files are readable, writeable and erasable at another computer
2. Working flash is still working
3. I downloaded KB240075, but didn't install it, 'cos those guys say it's for AMD & VIA, not for my Intel. Am I right?
4. I can't access to XP machine, but I have access to another 98SE machine, so I looked into HKLM\Enum\USB section of system registry and found VIDs & PIDs:

working Kingston VID 0951 PID 1625
useless Kingston VID 0951 PID 162D
useless EMTEC VID 13FE PID 1F00

[dencorso]

Go to C:\WINDOWS\INF and rename usbstor.inf to usbstor.ant, then add the modified usbstor.inf contained in the attached .7z file (you actually can do it from inside windows, no need to get to True DOS to do it). Insert each of the problem pen drives, one at a time, and let's see what happens.

Attached File(s)

•  usbstor.7z (4.21K)
  Number of downloads: 15

[98SEUser]

I think, I have to unpack this 7z file? Which program I must to use?

[LoneCrusader]

98SEUser, on 24 October 2010 - 10:50 AM, said:

I think, I have to unpack this 7z file? Which program I must to use?

7-Zip
It's a free alternative to WinZip, WinRAR, etc.

[CharlesF]

98SEUser, on 24 October 2010 - 10:50 AM, said:

I think, I have to unpack this 7z file? Which program I must to use?

You can find here the portable version of 7-Zip (= no install): 7-Zip Portable

This is required only to compress in this format.
To unpack files the majority of common softwares like WinZip or WinRar will definitely do the job.

[98SEUser]

Guys, maybe it's funny for You, but I HAVEN'T XP machine, so portable version of 7-zip isn't accessible for me and archivators I use (Zip 9.0 & Rar 3.0) definitely can't do any job with .7z files
Anyway, thank You very mutch for Your tries to help me

Well, I unpacked usbstor and nothing was changed - new drivers database was created, then USB device (not USB drive!) was found and unknown device was found at the end. Exactly the same thing as with my old usbstor.inf

[CharlesF]

98SEUser, on 24 October 2010 - 03:10 PM, said:

Guys, maybe it's funny for You, but I HAVEN'T XP machine, so portable version of 7-zip isn't accessible for me and archivators I use (Zip 9.0 & Rar 3.0) definitely can't do any job with .7z files

98SEUser,
you are actually on the Windows 9x Forum .

Last 7-Zip Portable is working fine on my Windows 98SE PC [Edit: Could need KernelEX. I didn't tried without it.],
and it has also WinRAR 3.51 installed which accept .7z to unpacking

Otherwise, some sites online can make the conversion for you like Media Convert or Zamzar

HTH

This post has been edited by CharlesF: 24 October 2010 - 04:28 PM

[98SEUser]

Any thoughts?

[dencorso]

98SEUser, on 27 October 2010 - 06:53 AM, said:

Any thoughts?

Yes. 7-zip 4.65 runs OK in 9x. No KernelEx needed.

[98SEUser]

As I wrote

98SEUser, on 24 October 2010 - 03:10 PM, said:

Well, I unpacked usbstor and nothing was changed - new drivers database was created, then USB device (not USB drive!) was found and unknown device was found at the end. Exactly the same thing as with my old usbstor.inf

It means I found exit and installed nonportable ver 9.17, unpacked usbstor but nothing changed.

[dencorso]

98SEUser, on 22 October 2010 - 03:54 AM, said:

3. I downloaded KB240075, but didn't install it, 'cos those guys say it's for AMD & VIA, not for my Intel. Am I right?

Well, since you haven't anything to loose, because it already is not working as it should, my next suggestion is to install KB240075, regardless of what hardware you do have. It won't break anything, but may fix it.

[98SEUser]

dencorso, on 28 October 2010 - 12:11 PM, said:

Well, since you haven't anything to loose, because it already is not working as it should, my next suggestion is to install KB240075, regardless of what hardware you do have. It won't break anything, but may fix it.

Unfortunely it didn't help. It lookes like some kind of hardware problem. I got a couple of pendrives made by different fabricators and general rule is: if pendrive older then couple of years, it works; if it's a new device, it don't work. I don't really understand reasons of this strange situation, but it's a fact. Moreover, old Kingston works - new Kingston don't; old EMTEC works - new EMTEC don't

This post has been edited by 98SEUser: 29 October 2010 - 04:01 AM

[jaclaz]

98SEUser, on 29 October 2010 - 03:43 AM, said:

I got a couple of pendrives made by different fabricators and general rule is: if pendrive older then couple of years, it works; if it's a new device, it don't work. I don't really understand reasons of this strange situation, but it's a fact. Moreover, old Kingston works - new Kingston don't; old EMTEC works - new EMTEC don't

Could it be a SIZE of the stick problem?

Otherwise it may mean that you have NOT a "generic" USB Mass Storage driver, but rather a "specific" one, (only compatible with a given controller) and by chance "old" sticks have that controller and "new" ones have it not.

Can you test the sticks on another computer (running 2K, XP or later) run on them chipgenius:
http://www.boot-land...?showtopic=4661
http://www.mydigit.cn/chipgenius.htm
and post Vid/Pids and details of each stick (both the working and the non-working ones)?

jaclaz

[98SEUser]

jaclaz, on 29 October 2010 - 04:46 AM, said:

Could it be a SIZE of the stick problem?

Otherwise it may mean that you have NOT a "generic" USB Mass Storage driver, but rather a "specific" one, (only compatible with a given controller) and by chance "old" sticks have that controller and "new" ones have it not.

Can you test the sticks on another computer (running 2K, XP or later) run on them chipgenius:
http://www.boot-land...?showtopic=4661
http://www.mydigit.cn/chipgenius.htm
and post Vid/Pids and details of each stick (both the working and the non-working ones)?

jaclaz

It's definitely NOT a size problem. I choose equal sizes of working/nonworking pairs of sticks made identical fabricators, but one works - another one doesn't.

I'm not very familiar with both hardware and software, but I installed nusb3.3ru, then nusb2.4, then nusb3.3ru back again. So how it can be not generic driver?

I haven't XP/2K machine, but all tested sticks work with another i865-based Win98SE machine, so I can look into its regystry and find all information is needed. And I have USBView. So what You want to know about this headache ?

[dencorso]

Now the simpler solutions have been exhausted, we must dig deeper. Please inform which is the maker and model of your motherboard, whether it has USB 2.0 support or just earlier USB, whether you have any USB 2.0 add-on card, which processor do you use, and how much memory does the board currently have.

[98SEUser]

dencorso, on 29 October 2010 - 04:22 PM, said:

Now the simpler solutions have been exhausted, we must dig deeper. Please inform which is the maker and model of your motherboard, whether it has USB 2.0 support or just earlier USB, whether you have any USB 2.0 add-on card, which processor do you use, and how much memory does the board currently have.

OK, I'll write that things I understand and how I understand, so let me know if I'll forget or miss something.

MB is some clone of pcpartner C9300xx (ID when machine starts is 10/10/2003-440BX-ITE8671-2A69KV3IC-00). BIOS patcher v4.23 www.rom.by applied

I don't know how to set which USB protocol realized on MB, so give me right direction

No any USB add-on cards installed

Intel Celeron 800 MHz used

256 MB single-bank RAM used

[dencorso]

That's quite enough info: you board is based in the classic Intel 440BX Northbrige, which uses a PIIX4E Southbridge, which provides USB 1.1 (and 1.0) support only. The newer pendrives you're having problems with must have bad USB 1.1 support or have dropped it altogether. Your problem is hardware, not software, and the simplest solution would be to add a PCI USB 2.0 card, preferably a 4-port one, based on VIA VT6212, which has great support for Win 9x. If that's not a viable solution, I suggest you trade your newer pendrive by your friend's older one, as an interim workaround. But USB 2.0 is so much faster that if you at all can get the add-on card, it would be much worthwhile. The PIIX4E maximum IDE mode is UltraDMA/33 (ATA-4), capable of 33.3 MB/s burst transfers, while USB 2.0 can attain up to 60 MB/s...
In fact, with USB 2.0, you'd probably have your external devices just as fast as the internal disks, if not faster!

[jaclaz]

I seem to remember that on some USB stick controllers it is possible with the manufacturer tool to:
enable USB 1.1 ONLY
enable USB 2.0 ONLY
enable BOTH protocols/speeds

It is very possible that newish sticks have been set infactory to "USB 2.0 ONLY"



jaclaz

[98SEUser]

Thank You guys very much for advise. The best solution for me is to exchange sticks with friends have working pendrives, I think. This computer is used for audio purposes almost only (digitizing mainly), so I don't really need any kind of speed up this device. At other hand, maximum stability when working with very resources-hungry exlusive IRQ audio card is needed, so I don't think any hardware adds is good idea. Maybe (or, closer to reality, surely) I'll lose some times while transferring files to the sticks, but digitazing without problems is more appropriate.
Thank You once more.

[Svenne]

Is the program language-sensitive? I don't want english mixed into my system.