[LoneCrusader]

Thanks for taking a look at my findings.

There is a small bug however, the USB.INF I posted didn't have sections for [SourceDisksNames] and [SourceDisksFiles] and still has the
"LayoutFile=Layout.inf, Layout1.inf, Layout2.inf"
line inside it. So, on installation it tries to get the files it needs from the CABs instead of from NUSB. If your CAB files are anywhere besides the standard OPTIONS\CABS folder it will stop and ask for the location of HOTPLUG.DLL (not in the original CABs, so you have to manually redirect it to where NUSB has extracted its files), and then it will try to replace the ME files with 98 ones (it prompts you to keep the newer one though). It has no trouble finding USBCCGP.SYS, which is not in the CABs either though

I believe the LayoutFile= line needs to be removed, and the [SourceDisksNames] and [SourceDisksFiles] sections added, using the same method as USB2.INF. I didn't make those changes myself because I am not familiar with creating "HotFix" type packages.


EDIT:
I tried making the changes I listed on a test installation, and the behavior didn't change. I hope someone with a bit more knowledge on this will take a look at it.

I believe this is only an issue if Windows 98SE was installed from somewhere other than \OPTIONS\CABS. Anyone who encounters this will need to redirect the Driver wizard to %WinDir%\OPTIONS\CABS where NUSB extracts all of the new files. After that, everything is fine.

This post has been edited by LoneCrusader: 08 August 2011 - 03:31 PM

[Arminius]

Interesting result from installing Maximus-Decim Native USB Drivers.

My SanDisk Digital Audio Player model SDMX1 appeared to be dead. I had copied some files from it to my 98SE box but after that it no longer worked. Despite reconnecting and rebooting the 98SE box a few times the mp3 player was dead as a doornail. I connected it to my W2K box but the player didn't power up there either even though it had always worked before. I installed a fresh battery but there were no signs of life. I had been using the player that way for five years but now it was a goner.

Then I uninstalled the dedicated Sandisk drivers from the 98SE box and finally got around to installing Maximus-Decim Native USB Drivers version 3.3. I connected the SanDisk player and all of a sudden it was jolted out of its coma. It worked again. Whatever the new drivers did they breathed new life into the carcass of my mp3 player, a fresh stream of data entering it's circuitry.

Thanks.

[Drugwash]

Looks like I forgot to post back: after taking all required steps "by the book" and reinstalling the new 3.5 package, everything is fine and works correctly. Thank you maximus-decim for another fine release!

[TmEE]

I'll be giving this a go as soon as I get back home

Sorry for late reply but :

Apart from difficulties during installing devices, it works like a charm ^^
I had to juggle between OPTIONS\CABS and SYSTEM dirs to get files fed to the driver installer

This post has been edited by TmEE: 21 September 2011 - 05:16 AM

[swgreed]

The German version of NUSB 3.5 can be downloaded here:
http://www.nandlstad...er-fuer-usb.htm

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

dencorso, on 06 August 2011 - 06:41 PM, said:

Drugwash, on 01 August 2011 - 04:06 AM, said:

- usbser.sys 5.1.2600.5512 (from XP-SP3)

Well, Drugwash, IMO what blorked your system was the .inf inside USB20DRV. Of course the files it contains are OK for your system, provided USBSTOR.INF is edited to load WDMSTUB.SYS with USBSTOR.SYS. Now, adding the untested (AFAIK) USBSER.SYS from XP SP3 didn't help any, either. Fact is, I tested it with WDMCHECK.EXE, and it turns out to have the same 3 unsatisfied dependencies that the USBSTOR.SYS (v. 5.0.2195.6773) from USB20DRV has. On the bright side it means it should work, provided it's also loaded with WDMSTUB.SYS, and this means finding the .inf that sets its registry entry and editing it too. The downside is it may be more than one .inf... USBSER.SYS is for the USB virtual serial port, which is mostly used to support USB modems, AFAIK. Here's a screenshot of WDMCHECK's output:

What about USBSER.SYS SP1 or SP2?

[egrabrych]

NUSB 3.6 Polish language version is available at: http://www.sendspace.com/file/0fkrx0 .

Since the original English version also differs in that:

- File Explorer.exe is version 4.72.3612.1710 (instead 4.72.3612.1700), derived from the "Unofficial Windows 98 SE 256 Colors Icons Explorer EXPLORER.EXE 4.72.3612.1710 Fix": http://www.mdgx.com/files/EXPL98PL.EXE ;

- Files Hotplug.dll and Systray.exe are in version 4.10.2225 (instead of 04.10.2224), derived from the "Unofficial Windows 98 SE 256 Colors Tray Icon + + Warning HOTPLUG.DLL Systray.exe 10/04/2225 Fix" : http://www.mdgx.com/files/SYSPLGPL.EXE ;

- Files User.exe and User32.dll are in version 4.10.2233 (instead of 10.04.2231), derived from the "Unofficial Windows 98 SE Animated Cursor (.ANI) + Icon Handling USER32.DLL + USER.EXE 4.10.2233 Security Vulnerability Fix" : http://www.mdgx.com/files/Q891711P.EXE .

Because of these differences NUSB 3.6 Polish language version has a sign: "3.6a".

This post has been edited by egrabrych: 14 February 2013 - 03:32 AM

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

I bought a 8GB Mini Attaché USB 2.0 Flash Drive and it was not detected by NUSB.
Here is a list of drivers that can probably added

http://www3.pny.com/...D=1062&TypeID=5

[dencorso]

No additional drivers are needed. Determine VID and PID (using USBVIEW or ChipGenius) and add them to USBSTOR.INF. But, with all due respect, that pendrive is the first one I hear NUSB did not detect... are you sure it's working? I have 12 pendrives and 3 external HDDs, plus four SDHC cards, two USB floppies and a SATA/IDE --> USB adapter, and NUSB detects them all correctly.

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

dencorso, on 20 December 2011 - 10:13 AM, said:

No additional drivers are needed. Determine VID and PID (using USBVIEW or ChipGenius) and add them to USBSTOR.INF. But, with all due respect, that pendrive is the first one I hear NUSB did not detect... are you sure it's working? I have 12 pendrives and 3 external HDDs, plus four SDHC cards, two USB floppies and a SATA/IDE --> USB adapter, and NUSB detects them all correctly.

I'm 110% positive that it did NOT detect on my Win98.

Device Name: +[E:]+USB Mass Storage Device(PNY USB 2.0 FD USB Device)

PnP Device ID: VID = 154B PID = 0059
Serial Number: AABA158400001499
Revision: 8192

Device Type: Standard USB device - USB2.0 High-Speed

Chip Vendor: (No match record)
Chip Part-Number: (No match record)

Product Vendor: PNY
Product Model: USB 2.0 FD

Tools on Web: (N/A)

Device Descriptor:
bcdUSB: 0x0200
bDeviceClass: 0x00
bDeviceSubClass: 0x00
bDeviceProtocol: 0x00
bMaxPacketSize0: 0x40 (64)
idVendor: 0x154B
idProduct: 0x0059
bcdDevice: 0x8192
iManufacturer: 0x01
0x0409: "PNY Technologies"
iProduct: 0x02
0x0409: "USB 2.0 FD"
iSerialNumber: 0x03
0x0409: "AABA158400001499"
bNumConfigurations: 0x01

ConnectionStatus: DeviceConnected
Current Config Value: 0x01
Device Bus Speed: High
Device Address: 0x01
Open Pipes: 2

Endpoint Descriptor:
bEndpointAddress: 0x81 IN
Transfer Type: Bulk
wMaxPacketSize: 0x0200 (512)
bInterval: 0xFF

Endpoint Descriptor:
bEndpointAddress: 0x02 OUT
Transfer Type: Bulk
wMaxPacketSize: 0x0200 (512)
bInterval: 0xFF

Configuration Descriptor:
wTotalLength: 0x0020
bNumInterfaces: 0x01
bConfigurationValue: 0x01
iConfiguration: 0x00
bmAttributes: 0x80 (Bus Powered )
MaxPower: 0x64 (200 Ma)

Interface Descriptor:
bInterfaceNumber: 0x00
bAlternateSetting: 0x00
bNumEndpoints: 0x02
bInterfaceClass: 0x08
bInterfaceSubClass: 0x06
bInterfaceProtocol: 0x50
iInterface: 0x00

Endpoint Descriptor:
bEndpointAddress: 0x81 IN
Transfer Type: Bulk
wMaxPacketSize: 0x0200 (512)
bInterval: 0xFF

Endpoint Descriptor:
bEndpointAddress: 0x02 OUT
Transfer Type: Bulk
wMaxPacketSize: 0x0200 (512)
bInterval: 0xFF

This post has been edited by PROBLEMCHYLD: 20 December 2011 - 10:51 AM

[dencorso]

PROBLEMCHYLD, on 20 December 2011 - 10:36 AM, said:

PnP Device ID: VID = 154B PID = 0059

Product Vendor: PNY
Product Model: USB 2.0 FD

Try this. Let me know what happens.
PS: by comparing this usbstor.inf with the one you have, you'll find out how it's done.

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•  usbstor.7z (4.25K)
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[PROBLEMCHYLD]

dencorso, on 20 December 2011 - 11:30 PM, said:

Try this. Let me know what happens.
PS: by comparing this usbstor.inf with the one you have, you'll find out how it's done.

Thanks but it don't work. The USB itself is 2.0 so it doesn't look in the USBSTOR.INF, it looks in the USB.INF or USB2.INF.

[dencorso]

That's not so.
Even if it were USB 3.0 it would look into USBSTOR.INF, which defines storage devices not usb protocol.
Does the pendrive work on XP or 2k?

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

dencorso, on 21 December 2011 - 12:39 AM, said:

That's not so.
Even if it were USB 3.0 it would look into USBSTOR.INF, which defines storage devices not usb protocol.
Does the pendrive work on XP or 2k?

yes

[dencorso]

Did you add a manufacturer driver to 98se already? If so, you've got to remove it (and that means finding which oemxx.inf it became) before redetectig it. Also it might be needed to hunt down its entry in the registry.

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

dencorso, on 21 December 2011 - 01:12 AM, said:

Did you add a manufacturer driver to 98se already? If so, you've got to remove it (and that means finding which oemxx.inf it became) before redetectig it. Also it might be needed to hunt down its entry in the registry.

The usb is cheap. I got it working though. I will never buy another PNY usb. I has to force it then jiggle it til it started to load.

[dencorso]

PROBLEMCHYLD, on 21 December 2011 - 02:08 AM, said:

The usb is cheap. I got it working though. I will never buy another PNY usb. I has to force it then jiggle it til it started to load.

Now you know why I use Corsair, OCZ or Patriot. It varies from year to year... Corsair was the best for many years, but Patriot is now the best, IMHO. OCZ had a really great one in the OCZ ATV Turbo (the yellow and black ones, which came in 4 GB or 8 GB sizes) but they don't make it anymore. The common, blue and orange OCZ ATVs still exist, but are not so good. But really great pendrives are quite expensive. All three above named manufacturers, plus SanDisk have some intermediate price pendrives for everyday use which are quite fine, though. I don't recommend any other manufacturer, but those four.

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

My next USB flash drives I buy will be 2 crucial 16GB Gizmo! Crucial is great, all my computers has their memory.
Never had any problems with them.

[dencorso]

Regardless of the brand, consider the following: some manufacturers, in an effort to produce ever slimmer pendrives, decided to omit the armor (metal outer-casing) from some of their pendrive's connectors. The SONY Micro-Vault Tiny was one of the first such armorless pendrives. But... the armor is there for many reasons, one being that it helps hold snugly the connectors in both parts of the USB connection (the pendrive and the machine's USB connector), so that, by omitting it, the manufacturer created a less reliable product, that will give bad contact in any well used USB connector, forcing one to jiggle the pendrive to get contact. So, nowadays I avoid buying any armorless connectored pendrive. I like Corsairs a lot, but I do avoid the Flash Voyager Mini line because of this. Just my 2¢, of course.

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•  SMVT4G1.jpg (6.77K)
  Number of downloads: 2

[duffy98]

Appreciate the "flash drive" information, very interesting. Was doing some further searching on the subject of "rugged/tough" flash drives and came across this article dated March 28th, 2011 ... so it's fairly recent. The author tested flash drives with a 10 foot drop, hitting them with a hammer and putting them in water ... interesting article.

dencorso, I was checking out the Patriot flash drive but I can only fine one listed with a plastic case, I was looking for a metal case but now I think I would like a rubberized metal case for extra shock protection and also moisture protection. Any suggestions on your part since you have tested many different makes of flash drives. I'm still checking out the drives you mentioned. Awhile back I ordered a cell phone battery from Hong Kong, he also had metal flash drives for sale so I bought a 2GB and really liked the feel of the thing, very solid.

Roundup: Rugged Flash Drives From Corsair, Imation, Kingston and LaCie

http://techcrunch.co...d-flash-drives/


Update if anyone might be interested, I decided to get a 16 GB Corsair Survivor flash drive. It is also USB 3.0 but my computers are only USB 2.0 so I can't take advantage of the faster speed. Made out of lightweight aircraft aluminum and waterproof to 200 meters.

http://www.amazon.co...25087496&sr=8-1

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This post has been edited by duffy98: 28 December 2011 - 09:52 AM