[Petr]

I have discoverd one additional hotfix needed - Q250514 for Windows 98 Standard edition, with spoolss.dll version 4.10.2000.

http://ftp.isu.edu.tw/pub/CPatch/msupdate/.../250514usa8.exe contains the SE version only, 4.10.2223.

MDGx has spoolss.dll version for 95, 98SE, ME - but unforunately for 98FE not.

Petr

[erpdude8]

Petr, on May 4 2005, 02:35 PM, said:

I have discoverd one additional hotfix needed - Q250514 for Windows 98 Standard edition, with spoolss.dll version 4.10.2000.

http://ftp.isu.edu.tw/pub/CPatch/msupdate/.../250514usa8.exe contains the SE version only, 4.10.2223.

MDGx has spoolss.dll version for 95, 98SE, ME - but unforunately for 98FE not.

Petr
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

To fix the spoolss.dll problems in 98fe, Petr just overwrite that file with the WinME version [4.90.3000]. that's all. You can also do this for Win98se and not bother using Q250514. in fact using WinME spoolss.dll file under Win98 fixes more problems than what Q250514 does.

MDGx's spoolss.dll fix for 98fe/se IS 4.90.3000, but do NOT use this under ANY version of W95 as it wont fix the spoolss problems under 95 and can mess things up.

btw- Q196527 has dvdplay.exe v4.10.1999; for 98fe only.

[Petr]

erpdude8, on May 11 2005, 01:40 PM, said:

Petr, on May 4 2005, 02:35 PM, said:

I have discoverd one additional hotfix needed - Q250514 for Windows 98 Standard edition, with spoolss.dll version 4.10.2000.

http://ftp.isu.edu.tw/pub/CPatch/msupdate/.../250514usa8.exe contains the SE version only, 4.10.2223.

MDGx has spoolss.dll version for 95, 98SE, ME - but unforunately for 98FE not.

Petr
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

To fix the spoolss.dll problems in 98fe, Petr just overwrite that file with the WinME version [4.90.3000]. that's all. You can also do this for Win98se and not bother using Q250514. in fact using WinME spoolss.dll file under Win98 fixes more problems than what Q250514 does.

MDGx's spoolss.dll fix for 98fe/se IS 4.90.3000, but do NOT use this under ANY version of W95 as it wont fix the spoolss problems under 95 and can mess things up.

Yes, but Windows ME is not free software and therefore parts of it cannot be put to Win98 FE or SE servicepack - or no?

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btw- Q196527 has dvdplay.exe v4.10.1999; for 98fe only.

This is OK I think - why do you mentioned it?

Best Regards,

Petr

[erpdude8]

Petr, on May 11 2005, 05:56 AM, said:

Yes, but Windows ME is not free software and therefore parts of it cannot be put to Win98 FE or SE servicepack - or no?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

that's right. parts of WinME such as the WinME spoolss.dll file can't be included in a Win98 fe/se SP (unless Gape has a license to legally put some WinME files in his 98se SP).

however, the WinME spoolss.dll file should be included in MDGx's 98se2me pack. ask MDGx if that file is in his pack.

[MDGx]

erpdude8, on May 11 2005, 05:01 PM, said:

however, the WinME spoolss.dll file should be included in MDGx's 98se2me pack.  ask MDGx if that file is in his pack.

SPOOLSS.DLL is indeed installed by 98SE2ME, but u need a WinME setup CD to extract it from.

[erpdude8]

MDGx, on May 12 2005, 06:59 AM, said:

erpdude8, on May 11 2005, 05:01 PM, said:

however, the WinME spoolss.dll file should be included in MDGx's 98se2me pack.  ask MDGx if that file is in his pack.

SPOOLSS.DLL is indeed installed by 98SE2ME, but u need a WinME setup CD to extract it from.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

bummer!

Q209321 Dblbuff.sys patch for Win98fe can be left on after installing Win98, Petr. The issue mostly occurs with installing OEM [non-retail] editions of Win98fe on fast computers. some IBM machines that have OEM 98fe have Q209321 pre-installed.

Q265528 CAN be installed under BOTH 98 FE and SE. Microsoft article 265528 is wrong!
The Win95 version of Q265528 is included in the DUN 1.4 update for W95.
The Win98 version of DUN 1.4, on the other hand, doesn't include Q265528.

Q243048 Apmbatt.sys is only needed if you run 98fe on a laptop computer. useless on desktop computers.

Q230791 is only needed if you actually use Firewire devices and that you have an IEEE 1394/Firewire expansion card installed to your computer and you use a firewire cable to connect your devices. I know for sure Sony computers have built-in Firewire/1394 ports. Even with Q230791 installed, Firewire support in 98fe is still weak and most 1394 devices really require at least 98 SE with Q242975 patch installed.

Q196527 Dvdplay.exe - only needed if you have a DVD player installed to your 98 machine.

[Petr]

Hi,

erpdude8, on May 13 2005, 12:41 PM, said:

Q209321 Dblbuff.sys patch for Win98fe can be left on after installing Win98, Petr.  The issue mostly occurs with installing OEM [non-retail] editions of Win98fe on fast computers.  some IBM machines that have OEM 98fe have Q209321 pre-installed.

There is no difference between OEM and Retail version in executable files, the only difference is in the license file and a few INF files. There is a possibility of semi-slipstreaming and then the updated Dblbuff.sys will be used during the installation - or not?

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Q243048 Apmbatt.sys is only needed if you run 98fe on a laptop computer.  useless on desktop computers.

Q230791 is only needed if you actually use Firewire devices and that you have an IEEE 1394/Firewire expansion card installed to your computer and you use a firewire cable to connect your devices.  I know for sure Sony computers have built-in Firewire/1394 ports.  Even with Q230791 installed, Firewire support in 98fe is still weak and most 1394 devices really require at least 98 SE with Q242975 patch installed.

Q196527 Dvdplay.exe - only needed if you have a DVD player installed to your 98 machine.

Yes, these hofixes are necessary just in special cases. But I think I try to prepare a service pack suitable for all computers, not just for desktop computers without IEEE1394 port and without DVD player.
I agree that trying to obtain these hotfixes should have somewhat lower priority, but they should be contained in the "FE SP" if available.

Petr

[erpdude8]

Petr, on May 13 2005, 06:19 AM, said:

Hi,

erpdude8, on May 13 2005, 12:41 PM, said:

Q209321 Dblbuff.sys patch for Win98fe can be left on after installing Win98, Petr.  The issue mostly occurs with installing OEM [non-retail] editions of Win98fe on fast computers.  some IBM machines that have OEM 98fe have Q209321 pre-installed.

There is no difference between OEM and Retail version in executable files, the only difference is in the license file and a few INF files. There is a possibility of semi-slipstreaming and then the updated Dblbuff.sys will be used during the installation - or not? <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You CAN slimstream the updated dblbuff.sys file. though you must include it in the Win98 folder or wherever your Win98fe setup files are stored in (except on CD, unless you create your own W98fe setup cd & including the dblbuff.sys file). I did that and W98 setup did use that dblbuff.sys file. and you can keep it after Win98fe is installed.

Another difference between OEM and retail versions of Windows setup is the setup order. Setup prompts you to enter a cd-key (the 25-alphanumeric product key) near the beginning of setup in retail editions. In OEM editions, it prompts you for cd-key near the end of setup. It has been like that with Win98, 2000, ME and XP.

Petr, be sure to get others involved in trying out sybesma's thread on requesting hotfixes from Microsoft. I should not be the only one that has been taking action for several months now and getting good results in getting those hotfixes. I may be busy in the upcoming months and I may not be able to get those remaining W98/WME hotfixes.

[Petr]

erpdude8, on May 13 2005, 06:06 PM, said:

Petr, be sure to get others involved in trying out sybesma's thread on requesting hotfixes from Microsoft.  I should not be the only one that has been taking action for several months now and getting good results in getting those hotfixes.  I may be busy in the upcoming months and I may not be able to get those remaining W98/WME hotfixes.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yes, I know, but so far I'm not sure if anobody would really need the FE SP.

I suppose to prepare the first version, based on Gape's SE SP 2.0, and then I will see what will be the feedback. Maybe W98 is really dead now, I don't know.

Petr

[erpdude8]

Petr, on May 13 2005, 06:23 PM, said:

I suppose to prepare the first version, based on Gape's SE SP 2.0, and then I will see what will be the feedback. Maybe W98 is really dead now, I don't know.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

you mean 98fe or 98se or all versions of 98. my aunt has an old laptop PC with 98fe and it still works well with most of the appropriate patches installed.

an unofficial 98fe sp? i might want to try it out someday Petr if it ever comes out.

-erpdude8

[shawn604_3]

yea me too my cus has 98fe although he has a se cd dont want to format his computer he dont want to lose all his files if you make a 98fe sp then i will download it on his computer.

[Petr]

OK, so I'm missing the following hotfixes. I was informed that they are no longer available from Microsoft, can anybody check it?

Q192117 - DNS Settings Not Saved If DUN Installed During Batch Setup

  File name  Version    Date     Time    Size
   ---------------------------------------------------
   Mstcp.dll  4.10.2012  6/23/98  9:26am  39,280 bytes

Q242056 - Windows 98 Stops Responding While Running AutoCAD 2000

  Date        Time     Version     Size      File name  Platform
   ------------------------------------------------------------------
   9/21/99     3:08pm   4.10.1999   472,564   VMM.VXD    Windows 98

(only if Q254087 really not available)

Q254087 - Multiple-Port Adapter Detection Results in Error Message in Vcd.vxd

  Date      Time    Version         Size     File name  Platform
   --------------------------------------------------------------
   03/03/00  12:54p  04.10.00.2000   472,576  Vmm.vxd    Windows 98

Q265528 - 16-Bit NetDDE Programs Do Not Work with 32-Bit NCBENUM and NCBRESET

  Date      Time     Version        Size    File name     Platform
   ------------------------------------------------------------------
   07/13/99  08:32PM  04.10.00.2223  35,434  Vnetbios.vxd  Windows 98

(common with SE SP)

Q329128 - Windows 98 and Windows Millennium Edition transmit multicast packets that have a TTL setting of 0 (zero)

  Date         Time   Version      Size     File name   Platform
   --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   21-Mar-2002  08:27  4.10.0.2001  157,909  NDIS.vxd    Windows 98 (x86)
   01-Aug-2002  09:51  4.10.0.2003  235,605  PPPMAC.vxd  Windows 98 (x86)
   01-Aug-2002  12:15  4.10.0.2004   75,581  VIP.386     Windows 98 (x86)
   21-Mar-2002  08:51  4.10.0.2226  166,053  NDIS.vxd    Windows 98 Second Edition (x86)
   01-Aug-2002  13:19  4.10.0.2223  235,605  PPPMAC.vxd  Windows 98 Second Edition (x86)
   01-Aug-2002  12:27  4.10.0.2228   80,409  VIP.386     Windows 98 Second Edition (x86)

(common with SE SP)

Please, if anybody has any of the these hotfixes please let me know.

Petr

[erpdude8]

I've asked for Q254087 earlier this May and MS support told me it is not currently available. As for Q329128, I requested the WinME version of Q329128 and was told that wasn't available too. For Q265528 I've asked about this in late Feb. 2005; I was going in circles on that one 'til an intelligent MS support rep. told me that it was not available.

let's try to ask Microsoft for those missing W98fe hotfixes in July or August. or even ask again in the fall 2005 season. maybe they'll have it then.

[erpdude8]

Petr, on Apr 24 2005, 05:24 PM, said:

As a side effect of my check of all files in SE SP 2.0 I have a list of all (?) updates for Windows 98 Standard Edition.

I think that preparation of the SP would be not so different in comparison with SE SP and therefore it would not need such a big effort.

But are there people looking for it?

Although most hotfixes are available, there is still not so short list of missing ones:

Q189591, Q190715, Q192117, Q192845, Q193473, Q195564, Q196008, Q217189, Q224073, Q233017, Q234697, Q240896, Q241134, Q242939, Q243048, Q254087, Q265528, Q269239

Is there anybody who could help me to obtain them?

And regarding Windows 98 SE, does anybody have Q329128, Q317796, Q271701, Q254660 (they are in MS KB) and Q277623, Q318307, Q268064 (just  referenced in SE SP)?

If anybody has any of these files, please send them to p@s.cz.

Petr
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Q217189 Tapisrv.exe is included in the Win98 SP1 Q232972 update; Q277623 does not exist.

[erpdude8]

erpdude8, on May 18 2005, 09:56 AM, said:

I've asked for Q254087 earlier this May and MS support told me it is not currently available.  As for Q329128, I requested the WinME version of Q329128 and was told that wasn't available too.  For Q265528 I've asked about this in late Feb. 2005; I was going in circles on that one 'til an intelligent MS support rep. told me that it was not available.

let's try to ask Microsoft for those missing W98fe hotfixes in July or August.  or even ask again in the fall 2005 season.  maybe they'll have it then.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

...and if Win98 hotfixes Q192117, Q254087 , Q265528 & Q329128 are not available by this fall or winter they may not be available anymore and MS may have been silently pulled them off their hotfix servers due to problems we are unaware of.

Q242056 might be available as Q242161 hotfix. will try to ask MS for Q242161 instead of Q242056 as Q242161 has the same version of vmm.vxd file as Q242056. I'll keep you posted on this one, Petr

-erpdude8

This post has been edited by erpdude8: 08 June 2005 - 05:53 AM

[erpdude8]

erpdude8, on Jun 8 2005, 05:52 AM, said:

Q242056 might be available as Q242161 hotfix.  will try to ask MS for Q242161 instead of Q242056 as Q242161 has the same version of vmm.vxd file as Q242056.  I'll keep you posted on this one, Petr


<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

ok I have now obtained the Q242161 vmm.vxd hotfix for Win98.

[Petr]

erpdude8, on Jun 10 2005, 10:48 PM, said:

ok I have now obtained the Q242161 vmm.vxd hotfix for Win98.

Good find, please send me this hotfix by e-mail or let me know the URL for download.

Petr

[MDGx]

erpdude8:
May I also have a copy of Q242161 please?
Many thanks in advance.

[erpdude8]

MDGx, on Jun 10 2005, 04:29 PM, said:

erpdude8:
May I also have a copy of Q242161 please?
Many thanks in advance.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

sure thing, MDGx. But be sure to revise your "Unofficial Windows 98 KRNL386.EXE build 4.10.1999 Fix" and post it as 98KRNLUP.EXE & make sure it installs on both Win98 FE & SE. that will elliminate the need to release it for separate editions of Win98.

Petr, on Jun 10 2005, 03:39 PM, said:

Good find, please send me this hotfix by e-mail or let me know the URL for download.

Petr

I will sent Q242161 to MDGx first, Petr. Once he has it, you will be able to obtain it from his web site.

-erpdude8

[MDGx]

erpdude8, on Jun 13 2005, 08:02 AM, said:

I will sent Q242161 to MDGx first, Petr.  Once he has it, you will be able to obtain it from his web site.

Here it is:

Microsoft Windows 98 Memory Leaks VMM.VXD build 4.10.1999 Fix:
http://support.micro....com/?id=242161
Direct download [359 KB, English]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/Q242161.EXE