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98SE2ME = Killer Replacements: ME -> 98 SE

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98SE2ME worked fine when I last tried it with USP3


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Hello,

I have never used 98SE2ME.

Is it compatible with the Win98SE SP3 beta4?
What kind of improvement will I get if I install it in addition?

I have read the READ1ST.PHP, but not seems to speak about this particular point.

98SE2ME is designed to work 100% with unofficial 98SE SP2 any edition, including the latest 3.0 beta 4.
To my knowledge there have never been problems installing these 2 packages.

I strongly recommend to install SP2 3.0 beta 4 first, and then 98SE2ME, as stated in READ1ST.TXT under the "FAQ" section [read1st.php is just a "wrapper" web page for the .TXT file]:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/read1st.php

* Unofficial Windows 98 SE Service Pack 2 (SP2):
http://exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html
MUST be installed BEFORE installing 98SE2ME options 1, 2, 3 or 5 because all
Win98 SE system files installed by Unofficial SP2 listed below are REPLACED
by 98SE2ME with SAME BUILD, NEWER and/or PATCHED (WinME) versions [this may
change in future releases], but this should NOT affect operating system
compatibility NOR stability
...

FYI:
Just to be safe, select to backup your entire OS [when you install option 1 or 2], if you have never installed 98SE2ME before:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/98setome.gif
If everything works ok, you can always delete the backup later: pls see READ1ST.TXT for complete details under the "BACKUP + RESTORE WINDOWS 98 SE" section.

HTH

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I've tried 98SE2ME today (French install - Déc-12-2007).

Option 1 is running but the icons are broken in the systray,
and at every reboot the OS is looking for a folder 92SM (don't remenber the exact name) in /Windows/ or /WINDOWS/SYSTEM/ that he does'nt find...

Option 3 had crashed everything (error with SHELL32.dll at reboot) and I needed to restore the system with DriveImage.

Edited by CharlesF, 23 December 2009 - 04:12 PM.


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I've tried 98SE2ME today (French install - Déc-12-2007).

Option 1 is running but the icons are breaking in the systray,
and at every reboot the OS is looking for a folder 92SM (don't remenber the exact name) in /Windows/ or /WINDOWS/SYSTEM/ that he does'nt find...

Option 3 had crashed everything (error with SHELL32.dll at reboot) and I needed to restore the system with DriveImage.

Sorry to hear that. :(

98SE2ME French edition is not my work. It was created by Matze (MSFN user) a while back.
You can probably contact him at:
http://www.matze.fr/...nts-FR-12122007

Now that I know about the errors, I'll remove it from my site until Matze can fix it.

Thanks a lot for your concern.

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98SE2ME French edition is not my work. It was created by Matze (MSFN user) a while back.
Now that I know about the errors, I'll remove it from my site until Matze can fix it.

I can't be sure that the french installer is guilty.
Matze is doing a lot of work on his site.
He had translated several version of Win 98SE SP2 & SP3 with no problem.

Could it has been something with my PC (or settings)?
I had copied the 'win9x' folder from Win Me install CD on my HD (C:\WINDOWS\Desktop) [I think the .pif read everything from it],
and the original CD was still in the first optical drive (E:)

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98SE2ME French edition is not my work. It was created by Matze (MSFN user) a while back.
Now that I know about the errors, I'll remove it from my site until Matze can fix it.

I can't be sure that the french installer is guilty.
Matze is doing a lot of work on his site.
He had translated several version of Win 98SE SP2 & SP3 with no problem.

Could it has been something with my PC (or settings)?
I had copied the 'win9x' folder from Win Me install CD on my HD (C:\WINDOWS\Desktop) [I think the .pif read everything from it],
and the original CD was still in the first optical drive (E:)

Matze's installer is pretty old, maybe some bugs seeped thru [?]. Just a thought.

Anyway... 98SE2ME.EXE [most recent edition = December 2009 (this may or may not be true for 2 years old editions)] must be run first in order to install all needed files [which are extracted from the executable], which always install in the C:\9!M folder.
From then on you can run the PIF file [98SE2ME.PIF] from C:\9!M to install any option you wish from the main menu.
Your copy of Windows 98 SE OS can be anywhere on any hard drive/partition that can be written to.
The WinME setup CAB files [all of them] can be anywhere [but all must be in the same directory], on any drive that is connected to your computer, and that you have access to and which have file systems [FAT12, FAT16, FAT32, CDFS, UDF] Win98 SE can recognize.

That's all I can think of off of the top of my head. :blink:

IMO:
You'd be better off installing the new 98SE2ME [December 2009]:
http://www.mdgx.com/4
even if it has only English files, because most bugs have been fixed since 2007 [and you'll get newer files], and to see if everything works ok.
Just select to backup your entire Windows OS at install time. Options 1 or 2 give you a backup choice, which is recommended, especially if you have never installed 98SE2ME before.
If you wish to install option 3, your original files will be backed up automatically, so you can restore them in case somthng goes weird.
If you have installed 98SE2ME before, then the backup routine will only backup the WinME files, not the originals.


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IMO:
You'd be better off installing the new 98SE2ME [December 2009]

Thanks.
OK, I will try.
BTW, is compatibility preserved also with KernelEx 4.0 Final2 , Tihiy's Revolutions Pack 9, and Maximus-Decim's Big HDD 3.1?

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IMO:
You'd be better off installing the new 98SE2ME [December 2009]

Thanks.
OK, I will try.
BTW, is compatibility preserved also with KernelEx 4.0 Final2 , Tihiy's Revolutions Pack 9, and Maximus-Decim's Big HDD 3.1?

Should be.

I haven't tested RP or Kx for a long time [both were old editions], but I've never had problems.
Big HDD actually contains files installed also by 98SE2ME, so it should work 100%.

To be honest, the only Win98 SE OS I've been using [for > 9 years] is the one with 98SE2ME installed. ;)

There is another package similar to Big HDD at my site, if you wish to test, has files installed also by 98SE2ME, and they all work 100%:
http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TLS

* Microsoft Disk Defragmenter (DEFRAG.EXE 4.90.3000 from Windows ME), Hardware
Diagnostic Tool (HWINFO.EXE 4.90.3000 from Windows ME), System Configuration
(MECONFIG.EXE 4.90.3001 from Windows ME Q272719 Hotfix), Disk Scanner
(SCANDSKW.EXE 4.90.3000 + SCANDISK.EXE from Windows ME), Registry Editor
(REGEDIT.EXE 4.90.3000 from Windows ME = modified to work with all Windows
95/98 releases), Registry Scanner (SCANREGW.EXE 4.10.1998 + SCANREG.EXE from
Windows 98 SE), SCANREG.INI Editor [SREDIT.EXE from Windows 98 Resource Kit
(RK)], MSDOS.SYS Editor [BOOTEDIT.EXE 1.0.0.1 from Windows 98 Resource Kit
(RK)], System File Checker (SFC.EXE 4.10.2222 from Windows 98 SE) + File
Manager (WINFILE.EXE 4.10.1999 16-bit from Windows 98 SE Q267375 Hotfix =
modified with custom 256 colors bitmaps + icons) Tools for Windows
95/OSR1/OSR2/98/98 SP1/98 SE:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/scanfrag.php
Direct download [1 MB, English]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/SCANFRAG.EXE
This NEWer DEFRAG.EXE does NOT recognize/defragment DrvSpace/DblSpace
compressed/doubled drives/partitions!
See "USE WINME DEFRAG + SCANDSKW WITH WIN95/98":
http://www.mdgx.com/98-5.htm#WDIW
+ "SCANREGW, SCANREG + SCANREG.INI" in TIPS98.TXT (included) for more details:
http://www.mdgx.com/98-1.htm#SCANREG98
Big Hard Disk Drive (BHDD) 3.1 tools for Windows 95/OSR1/OSR2/98/98 SP1/98 SE [486 KB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/BHDD31.ZIP

Enjoy.

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Can anybody tell tell where is the inf file for Windows Picture and Fax. At first I couldn't even register the shimgvw.dll but i have got passed that.
I think I'm missing some registry entries. This link might help us out a little bit.

http://www.powerbasi...ead.php?t=36571

Edited by PROBLEMCHYLD, 19 January 2010 - 12:39 PM.

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On WinME (default installations) you can find IESHELL.INF in C:\WINDOWS\INF [%windir%\INF].
This is the relevant part:
[Version]
Signature=$CHICAGO$
SetupClass=Base
LayoutFile=layout.inf,layout1.inf,layout2.inf
[DefaultInstall]
AddReg=RegisterDLLs
[RegisterDLLs]
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx\500","030",2,"%11%\shimgvw.dll|DllRegisterServer"
You can save this as IESHELME.INF (in Notepad) and then run it like this:
RUNDLL32 ADVPACK.DLL,LaunchINFSection C:\WINDOWS\INF\IESHELME.INF,DefaultInstall

[Replace C:\WINDOWS with your own drive letter + WinME install directory if different.]

Just make sure LAYOUT1.INF [also from WinME setup CD-ROM] is in the same directory you run IESHELL.INF from [default would be %windir%\INF].

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Will this add the imgview function from ME to 98?

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On WinME installs you can find IESHELL.INF in C:\WINDOWS\INF .
This is the relevant part:

[Version]
Signature=$CHICAGO$
SetupClass=Base
LayoutFile=layout.inf,layout1.inf,layout2.inf
[DefaultInstall]
AddReg=RegisterDLLs
[RegisterDLLs]
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx\500","030",2,"%11%\shimgvw.dll|DllRegisterServer"
U can save this as IESHELME.INF (in Notepad) and then run it like this:
RUNDLL32 ADVPACK.DLL,LaunchINFSection C:\WINDOWS\INF\IESHELME.INF,DefaultInstall

Just make sure LAYOUT1.INF [also from WinME] is in the same directory u run IESHELL.INF from [default would be %windir%\INF].

HTH

I followed the instructions and got this error message

Error in advpack.dll
missing entry:launchinfsection

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Aaah, shuks [I mean guano]... I guess IESHELL.INF is linked from within LAYOUT1.INF (they depend on each other). :(
And both must be from the same OS [WinME in this case], and they must exist inside same directory.

But if you're trying to do this on WinME, there is another way to do this [from within WinME]:
Control Panel -> Add/Remove Programs -> Windows Setup tab -> scroll down to Fax + Image Preview [or similar] -> check mark -> OK/Apply.

If that doesn't work, or if you're trying to do this from within 98SE [+ 98SE2ME option 3 installed], just run this command from a DOS box [*not* from the "Run..." Start menu item]:

REGSVR32 %windir%\SYSTEM\SHIMGVW.DLL

If that doesn't work, run this one:

REGSVR32 /I %windir%\SYSTEM\SHIMGVW.DLL

["Run..." from the Start menu doesn't recognize environment variables]

Just make sure SHIMGVW.DLL [from WinME] is already in your C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM directory.

HTH

P.S.
Please let me know if this works with 98SE2ME option 3 installed, so I can add SHIMGVW.DLL to option 3.
Thanks. ;)

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Will this add the imgview function from ME to 98?

Trev

Yes.

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Will this add the imgview function from ME to 98?

Trev

Yes.


Fax and picture viewer (winME) - SHIMGVW.DLL - how install (only this features) to win98?
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Fax and picture viewer (winME) - SHIMGVW.DLL - how install (only this features) to win98?

This is how it should work in theory, I have not tested this. Not sure if it requires 98SE2ME option 3 or not [this file might be depending on WinME's SHELL32.DLL (?)].

2 easy steps...

1. Extract SHIMGVW.DLL from WIN_14.CAB [from WinME setup CD-ROM] into %windir%\SYSTEM [%windir% = usually C:\WINDOWS] (run this command from a DOS box):

EXTRACT/Y X:\WIN9X\WIN_14.CAB /L %windir%\SYSTEM SHIMGVW.DLL

X = your CD/DVD drive letter. Change if necessary to match your settings.

2. Register it (run this command from a DOS box):

REGSVR32 %windir%\SYSTEM\SHIMGVW.DLL

3. Done . ;)


HTH

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Ohh, my god...

I can't belive I missed this...

I have just right now installed the shimgvw.dll by the regsvr32... method and now the mypictures folder works...

I forgot I had asked if this was for the preview...

For those having trouble, my laptop is running RP7 and I have lost track of whats installed. RP7 however is the me shell, op3 equiv isnt it.

Trev

P.S. actualy, Ill see if I can iron out a script error and you can, if not already, put imgview.htt back into 982me.
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Is it possible install 98SE2ME on Windows 98 non-english version?
May be some files need to be translated?

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Do we use the unofficial or 98SE2ME MSACM.DRV
http://btwincap.sour...t/download.html

I hate to quote myself but this must have been missed. I just need a yes or no to this question.
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Do we use the unofficial or 98SE2ME MSACM.DRV
http://btwincap.sour...t/download.html

I hate to quote myself but this must have been missed. I just need a yes or no to this question.
Thanks

I have added modded MSACM.DRV [from WDM Capture driver website] + SHINGVW.DLL [from WinME CD] to 98SE2ME.

All details should be on the 98SE2ME page:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/
File [4.4 MB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/4
Read1st guide:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/read1st.php
Updates:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/updates.php

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UPDATED · 7-24-2010
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Updates:
* see post above.

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Ohh, my god...

I can't belive I missed this...

I have just right now installed the shimgvw.dll by the regsvr32... method and now the mypictures folder works...

I forgot I had asked if this was for the preview...

For those having trouble, my laptop is running RP7 and I have lost track of whats installed. RP7 however is the me shell, op3 equiv isnt it.

Trev

P.S. actualy, Ill see if I can iron out a script error and you can, if not already, put imgview.htt back into 982me.

This method didn't work for me. It must be RP7 that might help it run for you.

@ MDGx
98SE2ME does not restore original Win98SE files. Option 3 does not either.
Shimgvw.dll does not work at all with or without KernelEX/Option 3.
Windows Movie Maker does not install at all in C:\Program Files.

Edited by PROBLEMCHYLD, 29 July 2010 - 06:32 PM.

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I also notice with option 3 install I was able to get Windows Movie Maker to work from copying its folder
I had save from my USB.
Just dropping the folder in C:\Program Files seems to work for me without any extra hassle.
But when yours did install from a previous version it was asking for shell32.new.
The gamezone folder don't install either.
After viewing a cab file in windows explorer the extract doesn't work any more.

Edited by PROBLEMCHYLD, 29 July 2010 - 06:14 PM.

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Is it possible install 98SE2ME on Windows 98 non-english version?
May be some files need to be translated?

Sorry I missed your post for so long. :-(

98SE2ME is designed strictly for English editions of 98SE + ME (that's the only ones I have access to).
But with specific language files, it is possible to "port" it to other languages.
If you plan on building your own language 98SE2ME edition, please see INNOFILE.TXT included in this ZIP [18 KB]:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/INNOFILE.ZIP
98SE2ME main page where you can find all necessary files + guides:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/

We already have [made by MSFN members] French + Italian editions [please note that these are much older (from 2007) than the English edition, therefore may lack some newer features]:
* 98SE2ME December 2007 [2.68 MB, French]:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/982MEFR.EXE
98SE2ME French:
http://www.matze.fr/...nts-FR-12122007
* 98SE2ME September 2007 [2.56 MB, Italian]:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/982MEIT.EXE
98SE2ME Italian:
http://www.eng2ita.n...um/?topic=442.0

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I also notice with option 3 install I was able to get Windows Movie Maker to work from copying its folder
I had save from my USB.
Just dropping the folder in C:\Program Files seems to work for me without any extra hassle.
But when yours did install from a previous version it was asking for shell32.new.
The gamezone folder don't install either.
After viewing a cab file in windows explorer the extract doesn't work any more.

I (think) I fixed the Movie Maker + Game Zone bug, please test to see if it works properly. Tx.

I also removed SHIMGVW.DLL from all options (1, 2 + 3).
Please see UPDATES.TXT [7-31-2010 update] for more details:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/updates.php
I've looked thru older updates, and found out that in June 2005 we went thru the same problem: we tried shimgvw.dll with option 3 installed, and did not work. So I had to remove it [déjà vu ;_)].
More details in UPDATES.TXT.

About the backup function not working...
I need to (re)install Win98SE and test this. Until then, I probably won't know what's wrong, unless some1 else tests it and discovers the bug.
This happened (same as MovieMaker + GameZone) probably because whenever I add/remove/update something, something else probably breaks, because all those batch + inf files are pretty much inter-related. :(
I'll get on it as soon as I have enough free time.

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