[iWindoze]

Is there a way to slipstream 98SE2ME as part of an install?

It is a bat file after all, so I'd THINK it would work....

Could you give some advice on how to do so, following the
code\examples given in the 'Unattended and Updated Boot
CD for Windows 98' thread?

Thanks in advance!

[PsycoUnc]

eidenk, on Jul 21 2005, 09:32 PM, said:

Has anyone an idea about the legality of the following. I have ME and 98SE (and 95). I currently have a single computer on which I use ME but I might recycle some of my (not so) old hardware to put together a second box and install 98SE on it.

The question is : Do I need a second copy of ME if I want to use totally legaly 98SE2ME on that second computer ?
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

-well, if ya ask the Evil Greedy Thought Police (Micro$hit), then yup, ya need at least one more copy, better yet 3 or 4, just to be safe... Technically, any part of the ME OS can only be on one puter at a time, is how M$ would see it... The way I'd (like to) see it, is that you have a total of 3 legal OS's, so ya should be able to use any combination of the 3 on a total of 3 puters... but I'm sure M$ wouldn't see it that way... but I wouldn't worry about it, M$ has pretty much written off those old OS's by now...
(I would include more here, about using X-SETUP to help ensure your Privacy in this matter, but I believe the Forum Gods would frown upon such details...)
>;]

[eidenk]

PsycoUnc, on Jul 21 2005, 10:52 PM, said:

(I would include more here, about using X-SETUP to help ensure your Privacy in this matter, but I believe the Forum Gods would frown upon such details...)
>;]
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Who do you mean by Forum Gods ?

Those who have failed so far to answer my interrogations about the legal aspects of Tihy's Revolution pack distributed from this Forum ?

Those who don't moderate Mitchellovision and his keygens ?

Or someone else ?

[MDGx]

Eck, on Jul 21 2005, 05:10 PM, said:

Yep, your right I did confuse them.  So, these media players like the stub (or whatever that smaller version is) version rather than the default one that comes with Windows Me.  Hmmm.  So folks with Windows Me wind up with the little stub while those using 98SE2ME get to put back the bigger, macho version whenever they update 98SE2ME.

Whatever, as long as stuff works right!

The smaller "stub" is [probably] just a fake "stub", which means it redirects calls to/from MAPI32.DLL functions to other files installed by whatever program replaced MAPI32.DLL with the fake one.

MAPI32.DLL has nothing to do with IMAP.
IMAP = Internet Message Access Protocol (e-mail retrieval)
and is used by all IMAP compatible e-mail apps/clients.

Hope this helps.

[MDGx]

eidenk, on Jul 21 2005, 06:48 PM, said:

Quote

7-Zip Release Name: 4.24 beta
- Command line version now supports short file names (like FILENA~1.TXT)

Does this make it now DOS compatible ?

A program which supports SFNs, is not necessarily a native DOS mode program, which is the case with 7-zip console tool [7ZA.EXE].
To my knowledge, 7za.exe never was and will never be able to run from native DOS.
You could email its author for more details:
http://www.7-zip.org/support.html

Hope this helps.

[MDGx]

iWindoze, on Jul 21 2005, 09:04 PM, said:

Is there a way to slipstream 98SE2ME as part of an install?

It is a bat file after all, so I'd THINK it would work....

Could you give some advice on how to do so, following the
code\examples given in the 'Unattended and Updated Boot
CD for Windows 98' thread?

Thanks in advance!

To add the batch file name [E0!X.BAT = the 1 responsible for installing 98SE2ME option 2 = please see READ1ST.TXT for details if you're not familiar with 98SE2ME options] to MSBATCH.INF [for example] is very easy:

[Install]
RunPostSetupCommands=98SE2ME

[98SE2ME]
"C:\9!M\E0!X.BAT"

Please note that this will not make it 100% unattended, because I'm using LOCATE.COM in E0!X.BAT to detect the WinME CABs. LOCATE /G requires user to press Y to switch to CABs directory.
But u can make it 100% unattended if u replace this line:
c:\9!m\locate /g ... whatever
with this code:

:L0
SET PATH=C:\;%PATH%
IF EXIST C:\*.??T C:\9!M\ATTRIB.COM/B +A -H -R -S C:\*.??T>NUL
IF EXIST C:\directory.BAT DEL C:\directory.BAT>NUL
IF EXIST C:\$!?.??T DEL C:\$!?.??T>NUL
SET A$Z=C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
ECHO SET D$R="%%2 %%3 %%4 %%5 %%6 %%7 %%8 %%9">C:\directory.BAT
ECHO @ECHO OFF>C:\$!0.BAT
ECHO SET D$V=%%1>>C:\$!0.BAT
ECHO %%"%% DIR/-P %%D$V%%:\ | C:\9!M\FIND "file"> NUL %%"%%>>C:\$!0.BAT
ECHO IF ERRORLEVEL 1 GOTO @!$>>C:\$!0.BAT
ECHO %%"%% DIR/S %%D$V%%:\WIN_8.CAB> C:\$!0.TXT %%"%%>>C:\$!0.BAT
ECHO %%"%% TYPE C:\$!0.TXT | C:\9!M\FIND "-" | C:\9!M\FIND ":"> C:\$!1.TXT %%"%%>>C:\$!0.BAT
ECHO %%"%% COPY/Y C:\$!1.TXT C:\$!2.TXT> NUL %%"%%>>C:\$!0.BAT
ECHO IF NOT EXIST C:\$!2.TXT GOTO @!$>>C:\$!0.BAT
ECHO %%"%% TYPE C:\$!0.TXT | C:\9!M\FIND "Directory"> C:\$!1.BAT %%"%%>>C:\$!0.BAT
ECHO :@!$>>C:\$!0.BAT
CTTY NUL
FOR %%F IN (%A$Z%) DO IF NOT EXIST C:\$!1.BAT CALL C:\$!0.BAT %%F
IF EXIST C:\$!1.BAT CALL C:\$!1.BAT
CTTY CON
IF EXIST C:\directory.BAT DEL C:\directory.BAT>NUL
IF EXIST C:\$!?.??T DEL C:\$!?.??T>NUL
IF "%D$R%"=="" SET D$V=
SET A$Z=
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\BASE2.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\DRIVER5.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\DRIVER6.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\DRIVER7.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\NET3.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\NET4.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\PRECOPY1.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_10.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_11.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_12.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_13.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_14.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_15.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_16.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_17.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_18.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_19.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_20.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_21.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_22.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_8.CAB GOTO C0B
IF NOT EXIST %D$R%\WIN_9.CAB GOTO C0B
GOTO C1B
:C0B
CLS
ECHO REQUIRED WinME Setup *.CAB files NOT found!
ECHO MUST ALREADY have ALL WinME *.CAB files ANYWHERE on your fixed local
ECHO hard disk(s)/partition(s) OR ALREADY have your WinME Gold (RTM) build
ECHO 4.90.3000 English Setup CD-ROM inside your 1st CD/DVD drive (if more
ECHO than 1) !
ECHO ONLY AFTER that:
ECHO * Press Y to REDETECT REQUIRED CABs + INSTALL WinME system files OR
ECHO * Press N to CONTINUE WITHOUT INSTALL WinME system files.
ECHO.
C:\9!M\CHOICE/C:YN /T:N,99 /N
IF ERRORLEVEL 2 GOTO UDL
IF ERRORLEVEL 1 GOTO L0
:C1B

Make sure you match GOTO label names with the rest of the E0!X batch to avoid errors.

Of course, this requires all 98SE2ME files to be already installed into C:\9!M [default dir name selected during 98SE2ME.EXE setup = cannot be changed, because 98SE2ME options depend on this dir location and files in it].

Hope this helps.

[iWindoze]

MDGx, on Jul 23 2005, 01:49 PM, said:

Hope this helps.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

It does! Thanks very much!

Err...since I have your attention, could you perhaps pass on a link or
three on using MSBATCH.INF, *.bats and *.regs for installing Win98SE
unintended w/ apps being preinstalled as part of the deal? I've been
looking about and haven't had much luck with the Gods of Google...most
listings seem to either point to MS's pages or to forums like this one. In
particular one thing I'd like to know is how to direct Windows 98SE setup
to where my Win3.x files are (I have an upgrade version and the win3.x
files are small enough to justify placing on an install cd if it'll automate my
process better)? Then again any help is appreciated!

PS: Thanks for everything, I'm a long time user of your W95-11d.zips
and they've taught me as much as my old AST 2001 Adventure did by
maiking me work and read and learn.

[MDGx]

iWindoze, on Jul 24 2005, 05:29 PM, said:

Err...since I have your attention, could you perhaps pass on a link or
three on using MSBATCH.INF, *.bats and *.regs for installing Win98SE
unintended w/ apps being preinstalled as part of the deal?

Best links I know of to MSBATCH.INF sites:
http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#DEV

Soporific's posts in particular, are extremely detailed:
http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=49892

Hope this helps.

[crashnburn]

just noticed an abberration on one of my 98me machines........... no clock in the tray..... might not have anything to do with the upgrades. right click where it's supposed to be and the clock menu shows........ the box is checked for the clock to be there, but when i uncheck the box the space for the clock disappears...... lol.......... no am/pm in my documents either....... date/time is in control panel, totally functional......... clue? appreciate the assist........

[MDGx]

crashnburn, on Jul 29 2005, 05:36 PM, said:

just noticed an abberration on one of my 98me machines........... no clock in the tray..... might not have anything to do with the upgrades. right click where it's supposed to be and the clock menu shows........ the box is checked for the clock to be there, but when i uncheck the box the space for the clock disappears......    lol.......... no am/pm in my documents either....... date/time is in control panel, totally functional......... clue?    appreciate the assist........

This has nothing to do with 98SE2ME.

If clock menu available when u right-click, probably means that:
1. either font color used to display the clock is same with tray background color.
2. or font used to display the clock is either not compatible with 98/ME [i.e. Unicode for NTx OSes] or font file damaged.
Change clock font: right-click on empty Desktop spot -> Properties -> Appearance tab -> Item: box -> Active Title Bar -> Font box -> scroll to the installed font of your choice -> Apply/OK.
3. or u need to reset clock digits to default [HH:mm:ss tt] from Control Panel -> Regional Settings -> Time tab -> Time style: box -> type [example: Windows default]:

HH:mm:ss tt

Mine is [no leading zeroes]:

H:m:s tt

Hope this helps.

[crashnburn]

that was tooooooooooooo easy........... never thought of checking the reg. settings............. nothing there.....lol.............. thanks again........

p.s. - wishlist........ whattabout combining the date/time & regional setting objects in the control panel????? possibly tab oriented?

This post has been edited by crashnburn: 30 July 2005 - 07:15 AM

[os2fan2]

I can't see the point in replacing EDIT.COM or EDIT.HLP. These are identical in all of the operating systems released (ie 95, 95B, 98, 98SE, ME, 2000, XP, 2003).

There may also be other binary equals that do not need to be replaced.

W

[MDGx]

os2fan2, on Jul 30 2005, 04:21 AM, said:

I can't see the point in replacing EDIT.COM or EDIT.HLP.  These are identical in all of the operating systems released (ie 95, 95B, 98, 98SE, ME, 2000, XP, 2003).

There may also be other binary equals that do not need to be replaced.

W

You're right.
EDIT.HLP from 98SE + ME are binary identical.
But EDIT.COM from ME is binary + filesize different compared to EDIT.COM from 98SE:

EDIT.COM from 98SE setup CD = 69902 Bytes
EDIT.COM from ME setup CD = 69854 Bytes

I will remove EDIT.HLP from 98SE2ME in next update.

I've also noticed that MSCDEX.EXE is binary identical in both 98SE + ME.
I'll remove MSCDEX.EXE too from 98SE2ME in next update.

Thanks for your help.

[Blue_ray]

i have install 98se2me. after the computer reboot. ans show the win98se startup screen, the my computer shutdown. can anyone help me?..........
thanks

[Infamous]

Hi ,

can someone make me a rapidshare or whatever link for all the files for 98se2me, because the main site is down. And i'm also interested to translate the program/files to german. I'm looking forward for an WinME Servicepack too.

thx in advance.

[PsycoUnc]

Infamous, on Aug 5 2005, 05:12 AM, said:

Hi  ,

can someone make me a rapidshare or whatever link for all the files for 98se2me, because the main site is down.   And i'm also interested to translate the program/files to german. I'm looking forward for an WinME Servicepack too.

thx in advance.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

--the link at the top of this thread works fine... (1pm EST)...

[MDGx]

Infamous, on Aug 5 2005, 03:12 AM, said:

Hi  ,

can someone make me a rapidshare or whatever link for all the files for 98se2me, because the main site is down.   And i'm also interested to translate the program/files to german. I'm looking forward for an WinME Servicepack too.

thx in advance.

Hi Infamous, and welcome to MSFN forums.

Must have been either a short outage on part of my provider, or if you were using a download manager, you need to disable it and use your web browser to d/l any file at my site.
My provider's servers do not support download managers.

Link works now [please try again]:
http://www.mdgx.com/4
as of Saturday August 6 5PM GMT.

About translating 98SE2ME into German:
D/l 98SE2ME, install it, and then open C:\9!M\INNOFILE.TXT in Notepad: contains a few guidelines about what needs to be done to translate 98SE2ME into languages other than English.
If you need more help besides that, please E-mail me.

Hope this helps.

[MDGx]

Blue_ray, on Aug 4 2005, 09:57 AM, said:

i have install 98se2me. after the computer reboot. ans show the win98se startup screen, the my computer shutdown. can anyone help me?..........
thanks

Hi Blue_ray, and welcome to MSFN forums.

Never heard of such problem.

Are you sure it was 98SE2ME that caused this on your computer?

If you are sure, please post here all details of what happened, otherwise I'm afraid I can't help.
If you don't want to post your computer details here, please E-mail me.

Hope this helps.

[eidenk]

Quote

My provider's servers do not support download managers.

Hi, MDGx, I've just successfully used Net Transport 1.87 to download your link.

[crashnburn]

always appreciative of all that you and the contributors do........... don't know if you saw my post edit p.s. or i'm in the wrong thread on this wish......... what about combing the date/time and regional settings into one .cpl on any new mods?????