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OK I wasn't out of this world. I think there's a problem with IE905495...

MDGx:

In a VM, in a totally clean install of Win98se, I installed:

* Dial-up Networking 1.4

* Ie6sp1 by re-downloading all the files just in case there was something wrong with my version - I downloaded a fresh copy of ie6setup.exe put it in its own folder, ran it, choose custom, selected all the components including all the language files, and started to install --- all 41mb of setup files were downloaded and installed -- I did get a couple of VM type errors so just in case, I forced a re-install of all components and there were no errors or problems.

And after all that I tried to manually run the latest IE905495 hotfix and got this message:

SHOT17.jpg

I spent quite a while tracking down the above and I think I've eliminated all possible causes from my end (ie thats why I described the above in such detail).

Any ideas? Could it be the extra language files? I say that cause that's the only difference between Auto-Patcher version 1.7 and 1.8 and this problem was never in 1.7 ... I'm stumped and :unsure:

EDIT --- I still kept at it ... I unzipped the hotfix and ran "ieupdate q905495" from the command line and it installed fine! And just for some more weirdness, I expected to get the same error when I tried to run the hotfix again like normal (ie not unzipping first) but the error message wasn't there anymore and it re-installed perfectly fine --- So I will be able to package the hotfix myself and get it to install, but I still want to know why this happens :)

I'm now officially going bonkers.

Thanks in advance for any help with this.

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OK I wasn't out of this world. I think there's a problem with IE905495...

soporific, I had this problem too but I found the problem. IE905495 was checking the WRONG files. If you look at the contents of the IE905495.exe patch in Wordpad, you'll see that it was looking for updated BROWSEUI.DLL, MSHTML.DLL, SHDOCVW.DLL, URLMON.DLL, WININET.DLL files, etc. It should have been looking for an older version (a 5.5x version) of the MSIEFTP.DLL file. Instead, if you don't have the latest Browseui.dll, Cdfview.dll, Mshtml.dll, Shdocvw.dll, Urlmon.dll, Wininet.dll files and you have less than IE 6.0 SP1, the IE905495 patch will produce that error message.

Bottom line, the unofficial IE905495 patch was detecting the wrong kind of files to update when it should have been looking for the msieftp.dll file whether it exists or not.

I had already notified MDGx about the problem and he told the_guy to revise the patch which he did. Download the updated IE905495 patch again here:

http://www.mdgx.com/files/IE905495.EXE

note to the_guy, I've noted in the ME service pack page if you have requested the KB925753 vbscript.dll 5.6.0.8832 hotfix.

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I had already notified MDGx about the problem and he told the_guy to revise the patch which he did. Download the updated IE905495 patch again here:

http://www.mdgx.com/files/IE905495.EXE

But I HAVE got the new file --- in fact, because of the existence of a newly released update, I've now triple-checked that I was using the newest file. I just did it again - I downloaded the hotfix and did a full folder compare for any unique files between the file contained in the 1.8 version of Auto-Patcher and the newest IE905495 and they are exactly the same. The weird behaviour is that once the hotfix is installed, if you try to just double-click the hotfix, it runs normally. But before it is installed, double-clicking brings up the error msg and blocks the install. This is DEFINITELY with the newest file. Weirdness double extra plus.

EDIT: I just found the best site for support for all things Windows!! -- http://aumha.org/win4/index.htm ---MDGx i'm pretty sure you don't have this site in your list of Win98 sites ....

and on it I found a list of errorlevel codes --- i'm not entirely sure if these correspond exactly to every hotfix install, but it's the only list i could find at it appears to be correct. Can anyone comment?

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@soporific: What version of msieftp.dll did you have?

the_guy

Can you do this step for me please? There is nothing wrong with the .sed file.

the_guy

sorry i missed your message...

msieftp.png

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That's the problem, it's looking for version 5.50.4807.2300, which I believe now is only installed on Windows 2000.

When I redo the patch, I'll use browselc.dll for versioning, unless there is a way I can use only the highest allowable version for my SED file?

the_guy

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That's the problem, it's looking for version 5.50.4807.2300, which I believe now is only installed on Windows 2000.

When I redo the patch, I'll use browselc.dll for versioning, unless there is a way I can use only the highest allowable version for my SED file?

the_guy

Version 5.50.4807.2300 of MSIEFTP.DLL file CAN be installed under Win9x/ME/NT4 if you install IE 5.5 SP2 and install the Internet Explorer Browsing Enhancement feature. Look in the IE_EXTRA.CAB file of IE 5.5 SP2. Version 5.50.4807.2300 of the MSIEFTP.DLL file was left out of the IE_EXTRA.CAB file for IE 6.x for Win98/ME/NT4 but included in the IE 6.x setup files for Win2000.

soporific, install IE 5.5 SP2 and do a custom install. You need to install the Internet Explorer Browsing Enhancement feature of IE 5.5 SP2 which has version 5.50.4807.2300 of the MSIEFTP.DLL file.

If you do not want to install IE 5.5 SP2 (because if you already have IE 6.x installed) get the IE_EXTRA.CAB file of IE 5.5 SP2 here. Extract the MSIEFTP.DLL file from the IE_EXTRA.CAB file onto the \Windows\System\ folder and ovewrite the existing version.

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That's the problem, it's looking for version 5.50.4807.2300, which I believe now is only installed on Windows 2000.

Would there be any reason why I get the same message for the Unofficial Cumulative Update for Internet Explorer 6 sp1 (kb925454) AFTER it has been installed ??? (ie i install it, then try to run the hotfix again) -- the message is the same as in the screen-shot I posted a few posts above. Trying to run the OFFICIAL Cumulative Update for Internet Explorer 6 sp1 (kb916281) produces the same message box. This is problematic for anyone wanting to be in harmony with Windows Update. Due to the message box, the official cumulative update for IE6 sp1 (kb916281) cannot be installed and so no matter how many times you go thru the WU process, you cannot get rid of the warning that your PC needs kb916281. This didn't used to be the case.

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I just found the best site for support for all things Windows!! -- http://aumha.org/win4/index.htm ---MDGx i'm pretty sure you don't have this site in your list of Win98 sites
I have links to various pages located on the aumha.org server at these pages:

http://www.mdgx.com/98-3.htm

http://www.mdgx.com/98-4.htm

http://www.mdgx.com/98-5.htm

http://www.mdgx.com/bug.htm

http://www.mdgx.com/html.htm

http://www.mdgx.com/modem.htm

http://www.mdgx.com/reg.htm

http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm

http://www.mdgx.com/wme.htm

http://www.mdgx.com/xp2.htm

http://www.mdgx.com/newtip98.htm

I know about this excellent web site since 1998.

HTH

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PROBLEMCHYLD, please be more specific on what you are talking about
Hosts.exe It does not replace nor backup the original so it means it does not copy at all
Updated HOSTS installers, please check them out:

http://www.mdgx.com/html.htm

I've tested them both on my 98 SE + XP SP2 system, they work ok.

HTH

When i install on Win2000 it just hangs at cmd.exe screen

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PROBLEMCHYLD, please be more specific on what you are talking about
Hosts.exe It does not replace nor backup the original so it means it does not copy at all
Updated HOSTS installers, please check them out:

http://www.mdgx.com/html.htm

I've tested them both on my 98 SE + XP SP2 system, they work ok.

HTH

When i install on Win2000 it just hangs at cmd.exe screen
See this post for updated files:

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?s=&amp...st&p=622813

HTH

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