[MDGx]

Gape, Petr + Tihiy:

Got more info about VOLTRACK.VXD patch:

Quote

The changes comprise more than just a short code string - the relocation
table is also affected. The original VOLTRACK.VXD intended to use a
counter in order to keep track of the number of removable drives or drives
with removable media, but the code was incomplete and buggy. The counter
has been disabled in 4.10.1999 (the counter is also disabled in
4.90.3000).

I assumed there was only one Knowledge Base Article re the counter in
VOLTRACK.VXD 4.10.1998 when I replied the other day. I now read article
KB234697. It refers to an issue different from the one fixed by the file
I sent you. It fixes the issue described in KB249824 "BUG: VOLTRACK Is
Erroneously Unloaded After 255 Device Additions and Removals."

Therefore VOLTRACK.VXD fixes the issue in Q249824, not the issue in Q234697.
Therefore WinME doesn't need a VOLTRACK.VXD patch.

Also got patched KRNL386.EXE 4.90.3001 for Windows ME.
Posted here:
http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#WME
and at top of this topic:
http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=46581
Top of topic updated 5-24-2005:
- please check out revised KRNL386.EXE + VOLTRACK.VXD fixes
- updated MSKB Q article numbers
- repackaged the installers to reflect changes
- created installer for KRNL386.EXE 4.90.3001

KRNL386.EXE patch [for either 98 FE, 98 SE or ME] doesn't need Q891711 installed, works independent of it, but it is recommended to install KRNL386.EXE patch after Q891711 patch, just in case any Kernel errors/lockups show up.
Note that KRNL386.EXE patches and Q891711 patches are now available for all 3 editions: 98 FE, 98 SE + ME.

All patches are for English editions.

Hope this helps.

[MDGx]

I have been sent more info about KRNL386.EXE patch:

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I sent MS the same file I sent you more than two months ago, informing MS of three issues with the original security fix KB891711.EXE:
1. A superfluous Trap to Debugger (INT 3) is in KB891711.EXE (4.10.2222).
2. KB891711.EXE (4.10.2222) does not really run as a service. It is terminated when a user logs off and is not restarted until a reboot.
3. The function calls to KERNEL cause problems because of the bugs in KRNL386.EXE.
MS fixed 1 & 2, but  did not address 3.
The coding errors in KRNL386.EXE are against the most basic principles of writing 80x86 machine language code.

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I am aware [besides KRNL386.EXE] of only one other Windows file that had a similar issue, but MS fixed that one shortly after it started causing problems. MS may not want to fix the two bugs in KRNL386.EXE because, technically, they would have to create localized versions of it for all language versions of Win98 they once offered.

[erpdude8]

well guys I'm back from beta testing Spybot 1.4 RC releases. They have NOW posted the final release of Spybot S&D 1.4. For those using Spybot under W98se, download and install Spybot S&D 1.4 NOW!!! If you had a beta or an RC release of Spybot 1.4, uninstall it and install the final version.

MDGx, I will send you the Q262232 patch later in the day. Let me know if you need anymore patches.

-erpdude8

[MDGx]

Thankx erpdude8, got it.

This post has been edited by MDGx: 16 June 2005 - 05:15 PM

[erpdude8]

How about combining the Q243450 esdi_506.pdr and VOLTRACK.VXD Q249824 fixes, MDGx? I mean, put those two updated win98 files into one patch.

also, see my post edited on June 10, 2005 on the first page of this thread.

This post has been edited by erpdude8: 13 June 2005 - 08:07 AM

[MDGx]

erpdude8, on Jun 13 2005, 08:06 AM, said:

How about combining the Q243450 esdi_506.pdr and VOLTRACK.VXD Q249824 fixes, MDGx?  I mean, put those two updated win98 files into one patch.

also, see my post edited on June 10, 2005 on the first page of this thread.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

1. I'm afraid I can't do that. The esdi_506.pdr patch is official from MS, the voltrack.vxd patch is unofficial [patched file was sent to me by a concerned user].

2. About merging FE + SE patches I made using Iexpress:
Please check your email: I've sent the explanation why this doesn't work.

[azagahl]

New critical patches available on Windows Update (June 15, 2005):

Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (KB883939)
Download size: 3.0 MB
Security issues have been identified that could allow an attacker to compromise a computer running Microsoft Internet Explorer and gain control over it. You can help protect your computer by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer. Read more...

Q329048: Security Update (Windows 98)
Download size: 267 KB
This update resolves the "Unchecked Buffer in File Decompression Functions" security vulnerability in Windows 98. Download now to help prevent a specially malformed file from causing unauthorized

Sorry, I don't have the files yet...

edit: I use 98 SE and the second patch applies apparently.

This post has been edited by azagahl: 15 June 2005 - 02:21 AM

[Petr]

azagahl, on Jun 15 2005, 10:17 AM, said:

New critical patches available on Windows Update (June 15, 2005):

Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (KB883939)
Download size: 3.0 MB
Security issues have been identified that could allow an attacker to compromise a computer running Microsoft Internet Explorer and gain control over it. You can help protect your computer by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer. Read more...

Q329048: Security Update (Windows 98)
Download size: 267 KB
This update resolves the "Unchecked Buffer in File Decompression Functions" security vulnerability in Windows 98. Download now to help prevent a specially malformed file from causing unauthorized

Sorry, I don't have the files yet...

edit: I use 98 SE and the second patch applies apparently.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The files are available here:

June update contains for Windows 98:
MS05-026 KB896358
Windows98-KB896358-ENU.EXE
contains files:
HH.EXE
HHCTRL.OCX
ITIRCL.DLL
ITSS.DLL
HHSETUP.DLL
version 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540).
It is apparently newer version than version 5.2.3790.1830 (srv03_sp1_rtm.050324-1447) contained in Windows 2003 Server SP1 and in MDGx's help update.
It could be a problem to install lower version number (309) over higher (1830).

MS05-025 KB883939
IE6.0sp1-KB883939-Windows-98-ME-x86-ENU.exe
Install files:
BROWSEUI.DLL 6.00.2800.1622 (xpsp2.050218-1437)
CDFVIEW.DLL 6.00.2800.1612 (xpsp2.041207-1145)
IEPEERS.DLL 6.00.2800.1497
INSENG.DLL 6.00.2800.1475
MSHTML.DLL 6.00.2800.1506
MSRATING.DLL 6.00.2800.1623 (xpsp2.050222-1638)
PNGFILT.DLL 6.00.2800.1506
SHDOCVW.DLL 6.00.2800.1658 (xpsp2.050427-1138)
SHLWAPI.DLL 6.00.2800.1612 (xpsp2.041207-1145)
URLMON.DLL 6.00.2800.1487
WININET.DLL 6.00.2800.1506

It is interesting that file versions are 6.0.2800, i.e. for IE6.0SP2.
Maybe the BROWSEUI.DLL problem is solved?

This post has been edited by Petr: 15 June 2005 - 05:46 AM

[Tihiy]

Quote

It is interesting that file versions are 6.0.2800, i.e. for IE6.0SP2.
Maybe the BROWSEUI.DLL problem is solved?

IE6SP2 have 6.0.2900 file versions. As for MS "xpsp2" tags for IE6SP1 - there was interesting article somewhere@msdnblogs.
And browseui.dll was solved long time ago as MDGx says.

[Petr]

Tihiy, on Jun 15 2005, 12:56 PM, said:

Quote

It is interesting that file versions are 6.0.2800, i.e. for IE6.0SP2.
Maybe the BROWSEUI.DLL problem is solved?

IE6SP2 have 6.0.2900 file versions. As for MS "xpsp2" tags for IE6SP1 - there was interesting article somewhere@msdnblogs.
And browseui.dll was solved long time ago as MDGx says.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yes, you are right, I confused myself with IE6 (2600) version.
There is nice overview at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/164539

I thought MDGx wrote that it is necessary to use the browseui.dl file frox xpsp2?

Petr

[MDGx]

This is my post:
http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=45373...ndpost&p=328623
The file I was refering to is BROWSELC.DLL from XP SP2.
I use BROWSEUI.DLL from newest MS security patch for 98SE, which I just posted here:
http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=46581
BROWSEUI.DLL from XP/2003 does not work properly with 9x OSes.

Hope this helps.

[erpdude8]

MDGx, on May 23 2005, 07:22 AM, said:

Updated unofficial Q891711 + Q234967 patches [both English] = they all work now:
http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=46581

This the scoop about patched KRNL386.EXE 4.10.1999 [sent by patch author]:

Quote

I did not obtain patched KRNL386.EXE from Microsoft.
I patched its code many years ago after random crashes that could not be reproduced or explained began to affect my work.
Microsoft Windows98-KB891711-v2-ENU.EXE patch still needs to be installed.
Only the files in Windows98-KB891711-v2-ENU.EXE protect against the icon and cursor vulnerability.
KRNL386.EXE allows Microsoft patch to work without crashing the system.

The scoop about the fixed VOLTRACK.VXD [sent by patch author]:

Quote

I am attaching the correct VOLTRACK.VXD file for Win98.
The one I sent you before by mistake could not work - it was an earlier attempt at fixing the problem described in Knowledge Base Article KB234697 and it created an incorrect stack frame.

Fixed VOLTRACK.VXD 4.10.1999 [patched by the same person who sent KRNL386.EXE] works on the 2 PCs I've tested, with both 98 FE + 98 SE.
Note that VOLTRACK.VXD patch is English, NOT Japanese.

Tihiy said:

Why there are different versions for FE and SE?

I made 1 installer for 98 FE and 1 for 98 SE [total of 4 = see links above] because the "TargetWin9xVersion=" directive in the SED file [I used IEXPRESS.EXE from XP SP2] allows to install only on 1 specific OS build.
This line:
TargetWin9xVersion=4.10.2222
allows to install only on 98 SE.
This line:
TargetWin9xVersion=4.10.1998
allows to install only on 98 FE.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

MDGx, have you tried using "TargetWin9xVersion=4.10"? maybe that will get your Win98 patches you created to install on any Win98 version.

azagahl, Q329048 is NOT a new security update. It's an old one mentioned in security bulletin MS02-054. it may have newer posted date at Windows Update, but it still an old patch.

Using BROWSELC.DLL & BROWSEUI.DLL from WXP/W2003 can make W9xME systems unstable or even unbootable. dont do it. Before installing HTML Help KB896358 update under Win98/ME, remove MDGx's Unofficial HTML Help 5.20.3790.1830 patch first by deleting hh.exe from Windows folder and by deleting the hhctrl.ocx, hhsetup.dll, itircl.dll and itss.dll files from the Windows\System folder; then apply the 896358 Win98 patch.

BTW - KB896358 Win98 patch is created from v4.72.2811.0 of Iexpress/wextract.

[erpdude8]

Petr, on Jun 15 2005, 04:29 AM, said:

June update contains for Windows 98:
MS05-026 KB896358
Windows98-KB896358-ENU.EXE
contains files:
HH.EXE
HHCTRL.OCX
ITIRCL.DLL
ITSS.DLL
HHSETUP.DLL
version 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540).
It is apparently newer version than version 5.2.3790.1830 (srv03_sp1_rtm.050324-1447) contained in Windows 2003 Server SP1 and in MDGx's help update.
It could be a problem to install lower version number (309) over higher (1830).

MS05-025 KB883939
IE6.0sp1-KB883939-Windows-98-ME-x86-ENU.exe
Install files:
BROWSEUI.DLL 6.00.2800.1622 (xpsp2.050218-1437)
CDFVIEW.DLL 6.00.2800.1612 (xpsp2.041207-1145)
IEPEERS.DLL 6.00.2800.1497
INSENG.DLL 6.00.2800.1475
MSHTML.DLL 6.00.2800.1506
MSRATING.DLL 6.00.2800.1623 (xpsp2.050222-1638)
PNGFILT.DLL 6.00.2800.1506
SHDOCVW.DLL 6.00.2800.1658 (xpsp2.050427-1138)
SHLWAPI.DLL 6.00.2800.1612 (xpsp2.041207-1145)
URLMON.DLL 6.00.2800.1487
WININET.DLL 6.00.2800.1506

It is interesting that file versions are 6.0.2800, i.e. for IE6.0SP2.
Maybe the BROWSEUI.DLL  problem is solved?
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The Windows Server 2003 SP1 version of KB896358/MS05-026 security update contains version 5.20.3790.2427 of HH.EXE, HHCTRL.OCX, ITIRCL.DLL, ITSS.DLL & HHSETUP.DLL files. The Windows XP SP2 version of KB896358 has version 5.20.3790.2453 of those five files. And the Windows 2000 SP3/SP4 version has 5.20.3790.309 of those files. See bulletin MS05-026 and expand the "Security Update Information" section and expand ALL branches of that section.

perhaps, MDGx should include the XP SP2 version of those five HTML Help files in his unofficial HTML Help pack since they are the latest version [but include the GDR version, not the QFE version]. just a suggestion.

For those using IE 5.5 SP 2 instead of IE6 SP 1, you can try installing the KB883939 WinME patch for IE 5.5 under Win98. download the patch here:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownlo...b7db183dec4.exe
view its contents in Winzip, extract all files onto a temporary folder and run the command, ieupdate.exe Q883939. This will make the IE 5.5 Sp2 kb883939 patch install on Win98/NT4 SP6 system with IE 5.5 SP2.

[Petr]

erpdude8, on Jun 17 2005, 10:35 PM, said:

For those using IE 5.5 SP 2 instead of IE6 SP 1, you can try installing the KB883939 WinME patch for IE 5.5 under Win98.  download the patch here:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownlo...b7db183dec4.exe
view its contents in Winzip, extract all files onto a temporary folder and run the command, ieupdate.exe Q883939.  This will make the IE 5.5 Sp2 kb883939 patch install on Win98/NT4 SP6 system with IE 5.5 SP2.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

And why not to use the latest patch IE5.5sp2-KB890923-WindowsME-x86-ENU.exe ?

Petr

This post has been edited by Petr: 17 June 2005 - 04:16 PM

[PsycoUnc]

-890923, tho a higher number, is actually older than the 883939 (released just a couple days ago)... I ran the newer update yesterday, and it updated the file versions fine...
>;]

[Petr]

PsycoUnc, on Jun 18 2005, 01:08 AM, said:

-890923, tho a higher number, is actually older than the 883939 (released just a couple days ago)... I ran the newer update yesterday, and it updated the file versions fine...
>;]
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yes, you are right. it is rather confusing but I should know it - this sometimes really happen.

KB890923 = MS05-020 Cumulative security update for Internet Explorer, Issued: April 12, 2005

KB883939 = MS05-025 Cumulative security update for Internet Explorer, Issued: June 14, 2005

Petr

This post has been edited by Petr: 18 June 2005 - 12:54 AM

[Petr]

erpdude8, on Jun 17 2005, 10:35 PM, said:

The Windows Server 2003 SP1 version of KB896358/MS05-026 security update contains version 5.20.3790.2427 of HH.EXE, HHCTRL.OCX, ITIRCL.DLL, ITSS.DLL & HHSETUP.DLL files.  The Windows XP SP2 version of KB896358 has version 5.20.3790.2453 of those five files.  And the Windows 2000 SP3/SP4 version has 5.20.3790.309 of those files.  See bulletin MS05-026 and expand the "Security Update Information" section and expand ALL branches of that section.

perhaps, MDGx should include the XP SP2 version of those five HTML Help files in his unofficial HTML Help pack since they are the latest version [but include the GDR version, not the QFE version].  just a suggestion.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

It seems to be hard to guess what is the right version. There are too many different versions and big differences in file sizes. For example, for hhctrl.ocx, there are the following versions:
Windows 98/SE: 519168 bytes, 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540)
Windows ME: 519168 bytes, 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540)
Windows 2000 SP3 & SP4: 519168 bytes, 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540)
Windows XP SP1: 519168 bytes, 5.2.3790.315 (srv03_gdr.050421-1728)
Windows XP SP2: 546304 bytes, 5.2.3790.2453 (srv03_sp1_gdr.050525-1542)
Windows XP SP2: 546304 bytes, 5.2.3790.2453 (srv03_sp1_qfe.050525-1536)
Windows Server 2003: 519168 bytes, 5.2.3790.315 (srv03_gdr.050421-1728)
Windows Server 2003: 519168 bytes, 5.2.3790.315 (srv03_qfe.050421-1726)
Windows Server 2003 SP1: 546304 bytes, 5.2.3790.2427 (srv03_sp1_gdr.050421-1629)
Windows Server 2003 SP1: 546304 bytes, 5.2.3790.2427 (srv03_sp1_qfe.050421-1625)

In summary, there seems to be the following versions:
1. 519168 bytes, 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540) - for Windows 98, SE, ME, 2000 SP3 & SP4
2. 519168 bytes, 5.2.3790.315 (srv03_qfe.050421-1726) - for Windows Server 2003
3. 519168 bytes, 5.2.3790.315 (srv03_gdr.050421-1728) - for Windows XP SP1 and Windows Server 2003
4. 546304 bytes, 5.2.3790.2427 (srv03_sp1_qfe.050421-1625) - for Windows Server 2003
5. 546304 bytes, 5.2.3790.2427 (srv03_sp1_gdr.050421-1629) - for Windows Server 2003
6. 546304 bytes, 5.2.3790.2453 (srv03_sp1_qfe.050525-1536) - for Windows XP SP2
7. 546304 bytes, 5.2.3790.2453 (srv03_sp1_gdr.050525-1542) - for Windows XP SP2

But, even the same vesrsion 5.2.3790.315 (srv03_gdr.050421-1728) and size does not mean that are the files identical. They differ. And even when hhctrl.ocx is the same, itircl.dl differ (Windows 98/SE/ME vs. Windows 2000 version).

So finally, there are really 9 different versions!

All of them were released by Microsoft at the same time.
Threre must be some reason why not just only one file was released.

Is it good idea to suppose that any of these files can be used with Windows 98 SE?

Does anybody know what is the real difference?

Petr

This post has been edited by Petr: 18 June 2005 - 05:44 AM

[PsycoUnc]

-good question, I was wondering about those versions myself... and decided to let the Masters (mdgx, tihiy, gape) figure it out for me...

(...and I thought I was pretty good w/98se... I'm a real noob compared to these guys... I knew nothing! Nothing! [Shultz -Hogan's Heros flashback] )

This post has been edited by PsycoUnc: 18 June 2005 - 11:58 AM

[MDGx]

Petr, on Jun 18 2005, 05:31 AM, said:

erpdude8, on Jun 17 2005, 10:35 PM, said:

The Windows Server 2003 SP1 version of KB896358/MS05-026 security update contains version 5.20.3790.2427 of HH.EXE, HHCTRL.OCX, ITIRCL.DLL, ITSS.DLL & HHSETUP.DLL files.  The Windows XP SP2 version of KB896358 has version 5.20.3790.2453 of those five files.  And the Windows 2000 SP3/SP4 version has 5.20.3790.309 of those files.  See bulletin MS05-026 and expand the "Security Update Information" section and expand ALL branches of that section.

perhaps, MDGx should include the XP SP2 version of those five HTML Help files in his unofficial HTML Help pack since they are the latest version [but include the GDR version, not the QFE version].  just a suggestion.

It seems to be hard to guess what is the right version. There are too many different versions and big differences in file sizes. For example, for hhctrl.ocx, there are the following versions:
Windows 98/SE: 519168 bytes, 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540)
Windows ME: 519168 bytes, 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540)
Windows 2000 SP3 & SP4: 519168 bytes, 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540)
Windows XP SP1: 519168 bytes, 5.2.3790.315 (srv03_gdr.050421-1728)
Windows XP SP2: 546304 bytes, 5.2.3790.2453 (srv03_sp1_gdr.050525-1542)
Windows XP SP2: 546304 bytes, 5.2.3790.2453 (srv03_sp1_qfe.050525-1536)
Windows Server 2003: 519168 bytes, 5.2.3790.315 (srv03_gdr.050421-1728)
Windows Server 2003: 519168 bytes, 5.2.3790.315 (srv03_qfe.050421-1726)
Windows Server 2003 SP1: 546304 bytes, 5.2.3790.2427 (srv03_sp1_gdr.050421-1629)
Windows Server 2003 SP1: 546304 bytes, 5.2.3790.2427 (srv03_sp1_qfe.050421-1625)

In summary, there seems to be the following versions:
1. 519168 bytes, 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540) - for Windows 98, SE, ME, 2000 SP3 & SP4
2. 519168 bytes, 5.2.3790.315 (srv03_qfe.050421-1726) - for Windows Server 2003
3. 519168 bytes, 5.2.3790.315 (srv03_gdr.050421-1728) - for Windows XP SP1 and Windows Server 2003
4. 546304 bytes, 5.2.3790.2427 (srv03_sp1_qfe.050421-1625) - for Windows Server 2003
5. 546304 bytes, 5.2.3790.2427 (srv03_sp1_gdr.050421-1629) - for Windows Server 2003
6. 546304 bytes, 5.2.3790.2453 (srv03_sp1_qfe.050525-1536) - for Windows XP SP2
7. 546304 bytes, 5.2.3790.2453 (srv03_sp1_gdr.050525-1542) - for Windows XP SP2

But, even the same vesrsion 5.2.3790.315 (srv03_gdr.050421-1728) and size does not mean that are the files identical. They differ. And even when hhctrl.ocx is the same, itircl.dl differ (Windows 98/SE/ME vs. Windows 2000 version).

So finally, there are really 9 different versions!

All of them were released by Microsoft at the same time.
Threre must be some reason why not just only one file was released.

Is it good idea to suppose that any of these files can be used with Windows 98 SE?

Does anybody know what is the real difference?

Petr

As far as I can tell, the 98/ME/2000 files contain code for older HTML Help APIs which were installed by those OSes, and the XP/2003 files contain code for the newer HTML Help APIs which were introduced starting with XP Gold/RTM (retail) back in September 2001.

That's why I have removed 98/98SE/ME HHUPD.EXE from my site, which was from Win2003 SP1 build 5.2.3790.1830 (srv03_sp1_rtm.050324-1447). [oh no, not another build! ]
Also, for NT4, since MS didn't post any updates, I've updated HHUPDNT.EXE , which now contains HTML Help build 5.2.3790.309 (srv03_gdr.050413-1540) from 98SE/ME.
All these downloads are posted here:
http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#HHU

[erpdude8]

Note carefully, MGDx, that KB896358 does NOT, I repeat, DOES NOT completely replace the 811630 updates, which have the hhctrlui.dll file. The KB896358 security updates do NOT have the hhctrlui.dll file. The KB811630 updates for Win98 & ME have the hhctrlui.dll file; I know for sure.

This post has been edited by erpdude8: 20 June 2005 - 06:59 AM