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Posted 20 July 2005 - 06:05 AM

@raduking: I actually got exactly the same error, but I thought this was an error at the webserver/site, cause after quite a few tries it suddenly worked... Anyone got any idea?

I install both Win installer 3,1 v2 and MU with /SiLeNt switches.


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Posted 20 July 2005 - 03:10 PM

i have registered post Windows Installer 3.1 (v2) :(

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Posted 21 July 2005 - 11:20 AM

I tried your code, Metzen, but I was still forced to install it again from windows update.

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Posted 25 July 2005 - 04:37 PM

is there something we can do ?

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Posted 26 July 2005 - 07:19 PM

raduking, on Jul 25 2005, 04:37 PM, said:

is there something we can do ?
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I Iam wondering this too. I'm getting the updates installed all right, but MU doesn't install. I tried packaging up the install using a repackager, but it didn't work.

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Posted 27 July 2005 - 08:44 AM

do you get the same error as I do ?

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Posted 27 July 2005 - 08:13 PM

You guys will be happy to know that IE7 defaults to MU :P

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Posted 29 July 2005 - 04:05 AM

so those files will be automatically put there ?

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Posted 03 August 2005 - 05:43 AM

raduking, on Jul 20 2005, 11:10 PM, said:

i have registered post Windows Installer 3.1 (v2) :(
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Can't it be that you disabled windows update by using a registry fix?

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Posted 13 August 2005 - 02:34 AM

RyanVM, on Jul 28 2005, 04:13 AM, said:

You guys will be happy to know that IE7 defaults to MU :P
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:realmad: :realmad:
I wonder what will microsoft do with xp sp3,ie7?
Maybe will require a phone call to get a very very special key :wacko:

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 03:19 AM

Pleas can you help me.

In my unattended installation i have created a .bat for manual integration of ActiveX, i have created a link to Microsoft Update, now i have 2 questions.

1. How i can skip the two windows that Microsoft Update Site ask me (START + CONTINUE)???

2. How can i add my link to the site inside the START MENU???

Thank you in advance :D

Francesco

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Posted 27 October 2005 - 11:53 AM

View Postfraizzo, on Oct 14 2005, 10:19 AM, said:

Pleas can you help me.

In my unattended installation i have created a .bat for manual integration of ActiveX, i have created a link to Microsoft Update, now i have 2 questions.

1. How i can skip the two windows that Microsoft Update Site ask me (START + CONTINUE)???

2. How can i add my link to the site inside the START MENU???

Thank you in advance :D

Francesco

There's no way to skip the initial screens, so far as I am aware of. I'm sure it will be possible in the future. As far as creating the shortcut goes, download shortcut.exe, drop it in \XPCD\$OEM$\$$\System32 (or wherever your UACD lives) and use the following syntax wherever appropriate:

Shortcut.exe /f:"%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Start Menu\Microsoft Update.lnk" /a:c /t:"C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe" /p:C:\WINDOWS\system32\muweb.dll,LaunchMUSite

You might need to modify the syntax above for your environment. The first time you go to the site, the icon for that shortcut will change to what it's supposed to be, but until then it will just be a generic pale blue page-looking icon. Regards :)

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Posted 06 November 2005 - 09:44 PM

View Postmaxamoto, on Oct 27 2005, 11:53 AM, said:

There's no way to skip the initial screens, so far as I am aware of. I'm sure it will be possible in the future. As far as creating the shortcut goes, download shortcut.exe, drop it in \XPCD\$OEM$\$$\System32 (or wherever your UACD lives) and use the following syntax wherever appropriate:

Shortcut.exe /f:"%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Start Menu\Microsoft Update.lnk" /a:c /t:"C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe" /p:C:\WINDOWS\system32\muweb.dll,LaunchMUSite

You might need to modify the syntax above for your environment. The first time you go to the site, the icon for that shortcut will change to what it's supposed to be, but until then it will just be a generic pale blue page-looking icon. Regards :)



did it support for pre_install?

thx!

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Posted 07 November 2005 - 08:59 AM

My update pack skips the initial screen ;)

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Posted 07 November 2005 - 10:59 AM

How'd you do that?

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Posted 07 November 2005 - 11:51 AM

hp38guser discovered that DataStore.edb is the key file.

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Posted 09 November 2005 - 04:56 AM

I see... so to skip initial MU screen just backup DataStore.edb to UA CD/DVD

$$\SoftwareDistribution\DataStore

(Do you know what exactly this file contains of info?)

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 08:56 AM

bump

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Posted 13 November 2005 - 01:13 PM

RyanVM's posts are intriguing, to say the least. I'm using a ham-handed AutoIt script to get the job done at present (please do not ask me to post it--it works but I'm not proud of it).

@BoardBabe: the OEM method did not work for me. One author claims DataStore.edb can be deleted and replaced during the install, but most agree that it is one tough nut to crack. Googled "DataStore.edb" and did some reading, turns out it is a database file related to the update feature, no real surprise there. I assume if a current database file can be integrated, then Windows will accept the Microsoft Update feature.

The key, then, is to integrate DataStore.edb and related files from the get-go, the first method preferred by it_ybd.

So I took a look at RyanVM's UpdatePack and found a few entries in the "entries.ini" file that appeared relevant:
;This section contains entries that need to go into the [Files] section of dosnet.inf
d1,DataStor.edb
d1,muweb.dll

;This section contains entries that need to go into the [WinntDirectories] section of txtsetup.sif
242 = SoftwareDistribution\DataStore

;This section contains entries that need to go into the [SourceDisksFiles] section of txtsetup.sif
DataStor.edb = 100,,,,,,,242,0,0,DataStore.edb
muweb.dll	= 100,,,,,,,2,0,0


Dropped RyanVM's DataStor.ed_ file in the I386 directory together with my muweb.dll file and expanded DataStor.ed_ as DataStor.edb and DataStore.edb for good measure, dropping them in I386 as well. Updated the dosnet.inf and txtsetup.sif files, but no luck.

@RyanVM: is it bigger than a bread box? Any help here would be greatly appreciated by those of use who are looking simply to integrate this feature. I am certain that I have missed a few files and more.

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Posted 13 November 2005 - 01:43 PM

I have now done 3 successfull VMware full format/install tests of my UADVD and I got IE Tools>Windows Update to default to Microsoft Update AND skip the initial MU screen, where you have to click Yes... etc.

How I did it?

1. If you have previously installed and ran MU on your local OS:
Boot your computer in SAFE MODEand DELETE DataStore.edb in %WinDir%\SoftwareDistribution\DataStore
2. Reboot computer to "normal mode" and run Microsoft Update (You should get the initial welcome to MU screen) follow the steps where you have to click start etc...
3. Again reboot to SAFE MODE and COPY DataStore.edb to desktop or wherever.
4. Boot to normal mode and place the copy you just made of DataStore.edb on your UA CD/DVD in $OEM$\$$\SoftwareDistribution\DataStore

Ofcourse you will have to have MU properly installed and service registered during your UA installation process. Why all the reboots and safemode? Simply to get a "fresh" version of DataStore.edb (Should have a filesize of about 1032kb) that is not locked or used by any process.

This seems to work flawless for me. :thumbup

This post has been edited by BoardBabe: 13 November 2005 - 01:48 PM


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