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Integration of nvRaid drivers into XPx64 and W2k3x64 Guide and help Rate Topic: ***** 2 Votes

#341 User is offline   Jason Fish 

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 02:32 PM

Just want to thank you for posting this. Had a couple problems at first but your guide really helped. Nforce3 running PATA/RAID.


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Posted 15 May 2007 - 01:33 PM

I have been through 4 different boot cds and am getting the same error. I am not sure why now and it's about time to throw the computer through the window :rolleyes: hehe. The computer has had windows running on it with RAID before but is now giving a NTLDR error so I need to make a bootable copy of windows that will let me use the array. We don't have the CD that was made before. Anyways I am working with an nForce4 with 2 drives in a RAID array. The array is healthy. The version of the RAID bios is 4.84. My nLite version is 1.3.5. The error I have been getting is:

The device associated with the following device driver will not work correctly on this computer: nvraid.sys. The device driver is not compatible with the x64-based version of Windows your computer is running. This device driver may be required to complete Windows setup. Please contact the device manufacturer to obtain drivers compatible with the x64-based version of Windows.

I'm gonna start right off by saying that I do have x64 based drivers. Here are the 4 cds I made, they all had this error:

1. Driver Files : 93.71_forceware_winxp64_english_whql.exe (64bit drivers for WinXP 64)
nForce4_amd_6.69_winserver200364_english_whql.exe (64bit drivers for Win2k3 64)
I added all the drivers in both packages. No other options other than the bootable option.

2. Driver File: 93.71_forceware_winxp64_english_whql.exe (same as the one above)
I added all the drivers in the package and chose the bootable option also.

3. Driver File: 6.86_nforce_winxp64_international_whql.exe (64bit drivers for WinXP 64 downloaded from nVidia yesterday - may have been two days ago, I don't really remember).
Only added the drivers to use RAID(sataraid and sata_ide)
sataraid was chosen as Textmode - NVIDIA RAID CLASS DRIVER
sata_ide was automatically entered in by nLite as PnP
No other drivers were added but I clicked the bootable option.

4. Driver File: NV_656_WINXP64-[Guru3D.com].exe (the old WinXP 64 drivers linked from this thread)
Only added nvatax64.inf driver (said I didn't need to add the other - nvrdx64.inf)
It was added as Textmode - NVIDIA nForce Storage Controller
I also chose the remove components option and removed the SCSI/RAID drivers from the CD
Once again I also chose the bootable option.

I think that covers it all. Does anyone know:
-What the heck is going on here, why is it saying it's not compatible?
-Do I even need to choose the bootable option(I will be booting from it)?
-Which Textmode(s) should I be choosing?

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 03:12 PM

View PostGalatorg, on May 15 2007, 09:33 PM, said:

The error I have been getting is:
The device associated with the following device driver will not work correctly on this computer: nvraid.sys. The device driver is not compatible with the x64-based version of Windows your computer is running. This device driver may be required to complete Windows setup.
If you really tried to install Windows XP x64 with the nForce RAID driver named "NVRAID.SYS", the error message would be correct, because only the 32bit nForce RAID drivers have this name. The correct 64biit nForce RAID drivers are named "NVRDx64.SYS" or "NVRD64.SYS".
Check the driver package you have used during the textmode driver integration. If you really find a file named "NVRAID.SYS", you have taken the wrong 32bit chipset driver package.

NVIDIA itself has made the mistake, because the package named "nForce4_amd_6.69_winserver200364_english_whql.exe", which they offer on their FTP site and which you have downloaded, does not contain any 64bit driver.
The 64bit version of the nForce chipset driver package 6.86 you get here, should be ok. Maybe you downloaded the wrong 32bit version of the 6.86 package, which is presented on the same site.

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 05:59 AM

The thing is nvraid.sys isn't in any of the driver folders that I downloaded. It was on the forth disk that I had figured maybe they were in the SCSI/RAID package already on the windows disk so I figured I would try removing them. The drivers in all the packages were named *64.sys. I haven't actually searched the disk for this file, but I haven't been adding in the nvraid.sys (unless it was being renamed). I haven't tried the driver package that you linked to above, but that's going to be my next disk. With any luck it'll work this time. Does it matter which option I choose for textmode intergration or should I be choosing them both? Ultimately I guess I gotta figure out why nvraid.sys is on the disk.

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 06:21 AM

View PostGalatorg, on May 16 2007, 01:59 PM, said:

The thing is nvraid.sys isn't in any of the driver folders that I downloaded. It was on the forth disk that I had figured maybe they were in the SCSI/RAID package already on the windows disk so I figured I would try removing them. The drivers in all the packages were named *64.sys. I haven't actually searched the disk for this file, but I haven't been adding in the nvraid.sys (unless it was being renamed). I haven't tried the driver package that you linked to above, but that's going to be my next disk. With any luck it'll work this time.
1. Start a new nLite session by using the actual nLite version.
2. Don't use any nLited or otherwhise modified source. Take the original XP x64 CD as source for building your nLited CD.
3. Don't press F6 during Windows Setup.

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Does it matter which option I choose for textmode intergration or should I be choosing them both?
I would take the 64bit chipset driver package 6.86 and integrate the SATARAID drivers as textmode and the SATA_IDE as PnP driver.

Good luck!

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 06:34 AM

I believe I know what my problem was all along....I kept using the same windows files over again, I was assuming nLite was creating a whole new windows disk somewhere else. The nvraid.sys file was found in with the win. server2003 package used on the first disk.

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 08:45 AM

Well that all seemed to work just fine this time(stupid mistake, doh). Now to troubleshoot the real problem with the system (got a bluescreen with PFN_LIST_CORRUPT, can't wait to look this up...). Thanks for the help, the guide is excellent.

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 08:53 AM

View PostGalatorg, on May 16 2007, 04:45 PM, said:

Well that all seemed to work just fine this time(stupid mistake, doh). Now to troubleshoot the real problem with the system (got a bluescreen with PFN_LIST_CORRUPT, can't wait to look this up...).
Check your RAM sticks or lower your RAM timings.

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Thanks for the help, the guide is excellent.
You are welcome.

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 12:32 PM

When I was saying which Textmode should I do, I was meaning that there are 2 options for textmode:

NVIDIA nForce Storage Controller
and
NVIDIA RAID CLASS DRIVER

the disk I made I just used them both (by default both are selected).

As for the other error, we removed some RAM and it works fine. Had issues with a USB backup drive taking over as C: also, but everything is all good now. We'll be checking the RAM some other time, however I'll look into the timing if they appear to be good. It was running fine with it all previously so it leads me to believe one of the sticks is probably bad. Thx again :)

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 01:16 PM

View PostGalatorg, on May 16 2007, 08:32 PM, said:

When I was saying which Textmode should I do, I was meaning that there are 2 options for textmode:
NVIDIA nForce Storage Controller
and
NVIDIA RAID CLASS DRIVER
the disk I made I just used them both (by default both are selected).

The answer stands within my guide (first post of this thread):

View PostFernando 1, on Jul 13 2005, 10:46 PM, said:

  • During the integration of the textmode drivers you have to enable both nForce Sata/Raid Controller drivers nLite proposes. To make it easier for you, nLite has already enabled both needed drivers.


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Posted 20 May 2007 - 04:01 PM

Ok, i'm pretty desperate right now. Tried everything I could think of, and it still doesn't work. Here's the situation (please don't be afraid to read this amount of text, I tried to give as much info as I could);

Specs:
AMD Athlon 64 3500+
ASUS A8N-SLi Deluxe
2x Kingston ValueRAM 512MB (Dual Channel)
2x Hitachi Deskstar 7K250 250 GB (Raid0, nvRaid)
[2x Samsung SpinPoint T166 500GB (Raid0, Silicon Image, not attached to avoid extra problems)]

Software/drivers:
6.86_nforce_winxp64_international_WHQL
nvRaid version 4.84

Story:
After my previous Windows version (XP Pro 32-bit) had worked pretty good for about a year, I thought it might be a good idea to clean my disks and try Windows Vista. So I did. Had some trouble with Silicon drivers at first, but I got it to work. Although the looks of Vista were good, I hated it because of the change in menuing. So I trew Vista off. Next thing I did was completely formatting my 2 hitachi's, and then trying to install Windows XP Pro 64-bit. Here all the trouble began. At first I had to load the Silicon Image drivers, but NONE of them worked (I've really tried every single driver, at every single website at the net). My PC kept hanging at the point of "Setup cannot copy file: Si3114r.sys" and so on with the rest of the driver files. Pretty desperate and tired of making new floppy's all the time, I searched for another way to get the drivers loaded.
I couldn't find one, but what I read was that I could also use the black SATA-ports at my motherboard, which weren't Silicon Image's ports, but nVidia's. New driver to try!! Again, downloaded all drivers for nVidia raid setup to be found at the net, and again without succes! Same point of hanging, although now with files like "nvRaid.sys". Time for another way.
Then I saw the method with nLite. I gave it a try, and it worked... although not entirely.

Problem:
When I putted the nLite edited Windows XP Pro 64-bit DVD in my PC, it worked very well. My PC didn't hang at a file it couldn't copy, it even completed the Windows installation! I thought my life was useful again, and that I would be soon welcomed by the Windows startup sound, as the PC was rebooting after it's installation. Here my feelings were hurt again. Just before the moment when you see the Windows XP logo at a black background with the loading bar underneath it, a blue screen of death suddenly appeared. Rebooting didn't work, it came again. I even formatted the disks again I tried installing Windows again, but with the same result; a f***ING blue screen!!

*** STOP: 0x0000007B (0xFFFFFADFE480F3C0,0xFFFFFFFFC0000034,0x0000000000000000,0x0000000000000000)

Solutions:
I really don't know what to do anymore. It's just so annoying! Can anybody please help me. Post a reply, send a PM or email. Any help would be grately appreciated! :unsure:

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Posted 21 May 2007 - 08:40 AM

View PostFlorisT, on May 21 2007, 12:01 AM, said:

Problem:
When I putted the nLite edited Windows XP Pro 64-bit DVD in my PC, it worked very well. My PC didn't hang at a file it couldn't copy, it even completed the Windows installation! I thought my life was useful again, and that I would be soon welcomed by the Windows startup sound, as the PC was rebooting after it's installation. Here my feelings were hurt again. Just before the moment when you see the Windows XP logo at a black background with the loading bar underneath it, a blue screen of death suddenly appeared. Rebooting didn't work, it came again. I even formatted the disks again I tried installing Windows again, but with the same result; a f***ING blue screen!!
It is not easy to help you with the BSOD, because this might have hundreds of reasons.
My advice: Check your BIOS settings regarding overclocking and check your RAM sticks with MEMTEST or try to get Vista x64 installed with just 1 RAM stick.

Regarding your previous error messages "Setup cannot copy file xyz" I have an idea:
Is it possible, that you used a modified (not clean) XP x64 CD as source?
Look into the i386 directory of your source CD (not the freshly nLited one). If you find a file named WINNT.SIF, I know the reason why you got the messages "Setup cannot copy file xyz.": The WINNT.SIF file contains the command for an unattended install. If Windows Setup finds a WINNT.SIF file, it is not able to copy the files of the drivers loaded by F6/floppy.
Solution: You have to use a clean (original) XP x64 CD as source.
If you create a bootable XP x64 CD by using a tool like nLite and you choose the "Unattended Install" option, you have to integrate the nForce textmode drivers. The F6/floppy method does not work with the "Unattended Install" option.

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Posted 21 May 2007 - 10:00 AM

View PostFernando 1, on May 21 2007, 04:40 PM, said:

It is not easy to help you with the BSOD, because this might have hundreds of reasons.
My advice: Check your BIOS settings regarding overclocking and check your RAM sticks with MEMTEST or try to get Vista x64 installed with just 1 RAM stick.

Regarding your previous error messages "Setup cannot copy file xyz" I have an idea:
Is it possible, that you used a modified (not clean) XP x64 CD as source?
Look into the i386 directory of your source CD (not the freshly nLited one). If you find a file named WINNT.SIF, I know the reason why you got the messages "Setup cannot copy file xyz.": The WINNT.SIF file contains the command for an unattended install. If Windows Setup finds a WINNT.SIF file, it is not able to copy the files of the drivers loaded by F6/floppy.
Solution: You have to use a clean (original) XP x64 CD as source.
If you create a bootable XP x64 CD by using a tool like nLite and you choose the "Unattended Install" option, you have to integrate the nForce textmode drivers. The F6/floppy method does not work with the "Unattended Install" option.


Thanks for your reply! My RAM is fine, which I can tell because it worked yesterday, before I started formatting. I really need XP, because my ISP (internetprovider) doesn't support Vista yet (kinda weird 'eh?).
What you tell about my XP cd can be correct, because it isn't a clean CD. But when I looked for the WINNT.SIF file, it wasn't to be found. So if it isn't there, my cd should work properly, right? Or is it useful to create a clean DVD and try that?

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Posted 21 May 2007 - 10:30 AM

View PostFlorisT, on May 21 2007, 06:00 PM, said:

Thanks for your reply! My RAM is fine, which I can tell because it worked yesterday, before I started formatting.
A 64bit OS like XP x64 is more sensitive regarding the RAM timings than a 32bit OS like XP.

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What you tell about my XP cd can be correct, because it isn't a clean CD. But when I looked for the WINNT.SIF file, it wasn't to be found. So if it isn't there, my cd should work properly, right? Or is it useful to create a clean DVD and try that?
Yes, you should always take a clean source. I bet, that you will succeed with the installation, when you create a new nLited Cd with integrated nForce SataRaid drivers according my guide (first post).

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Posted 21 May 2007 - 11:35 AM

View PostFernando 1, on May 21 2007, 06:30 PM, said:

View PostFlorisT, on May 21 2007, 06:00 PM, said:

Thanks for your reply! My RAM is fine, which I can tell because it worked yesterday, before I started formatting.
A 64bit OS like XP x64 is more sensitive regarding the RAM timings than a 32bit OS like XP.

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What you tell about my XP cd can be correct, because it isn't a clean CD. But when I looked for the WINNT.SIF file, it wasn't to be found. So if it isn't there, my cd should work properly, right? Or is it useful to create a clean DVD and try that?
Yes, you should always take a clean source. I bet, that you will succeed with the installation, when you create a new nLited Cd with integrated nForce SataRaid drivers according my guide (first post).


Ok, I'll give it a go tonight. Thanks, and I'll let you know if it worked. :thumbup

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Posted 22 May 2007 - 12:27 PM

Damnit... I have a (big) problem.

I already had a x86 Windows XP version installed and I decided to give x64 a go, since it was collecting dust on the shelf. Anyways, I used nLite to include the nForce 4 raid drivers, like you said on the first page. So when the CDR was finished burning, I decided to go for it. Anyways; after selecting the partition to install x64 Windows XP version (on Z:) and after installing Windows XP x64 it rebooted and now I am getting a disk read error?!

Also F8 does not work, cause this disk read error keeps popping up?!

Well I am going to redo the cd with nLiteos and hopefully I can make it work again. Cause this is really a problem for me, when I lose my stuff (both company stuff and personal stuff).

Any ideas what may went wrong here?!

Thanks for your input, I will check back later, going to make a new slipstreamed windows xp x64 cd asap...

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Posted 22 May 2007 - 12:48 PM

Okay just to make sure; I added the following drivers:

TXT - BUSDRV SCSIAdapter
TXT - RAIDCLASS SCSIAdapter
PNP - HDC

And the nvidia ethernet and smbus drivers as PNP...

This should be correct right?

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Posted 22 May 2007 - 01:11 PM

Argh....

Again I get the same error:

A disk read error has ocurred.
Please press CTRL+ALT+DEL to reboot.

...damnit.

I really hope I am not screwed here.

Let's go over it one more time;

After preparing the the CDR with nLite, it boots from the CDR without problems and starts the Windows XP X64 installation. I do NOT press F6 and wait for the installation to prepare the files. Then I am presented with all the partitions on the RAID 0 HD's (yes they are all there). Then I select the last partition, since I want Windows XP X64 to be installed on it (in my case the last partition is Z:). Then it starts the installation and all looks well. After a short while it says it want's to reboot the PC, which is fine... But then I get the disk read error for some stupid reason.

I really hope I missed something here... I am pretty sure my HD's are in excellent state and do not have any errors of any kind. So please, please advice here....

I will try to create a new nLite cd (yes, again) using the old Legacy method... Maybe that will work.

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Posted 22 May 2007 - 02:06 PM

@ HHawk:

You mean, that the OS Setup cannot read the CD?
Then you should burn the CD Image again, but with lower speed.

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Posted 22 May 2007 - 02:25 PM

Will all due respect, if you had read my postings (or at least the last one), you would have read the HD's gave the error... Not the CDR. The CDR is fine!

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I have found something, which I am going to try out:

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I had this problem installing x64 on a VIARAID 0 setup, asus A8V mobo.
the problem is definately with MS installer writing an invalid bootsector. not bios,etc...
(prehaps there is a workaround with tweaking bios,changing clustersize, but ultimately the problem is still with ms)
ok so this is the only solution that worked for me:
indeed fixboot is the solution BUT
-fixboot from the recoveryconsole of x64b cd(with integrated raiddriver) did not work
-fixboot with partition table doctor did not work(and i ended up losing 10 gb using ptd,not recommended)
Solution:
-after installing x64, the "Disk Read Error Occured" appears
-startup recovery console WITH XP32bit CD!(with integrated raiddriver) use fixboot
-you should now be able to reboot (dont forget put the the x64 cd back) and finish the installation!


I am building my X86 Windows XP cd as we speak, so I can try fixboot like the person above mentioned... HOPEFULLY this wil work... :S

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