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Integration of NVIDIA's nForce RAID and AHCI drivers

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problem is, i can't flash bios (and my version doesn't support that), it's not my laptop and I don't want to risk someone else property... I had exactly the problem mentioned in your post, but I figured out by installing SATA_IDE /floppy both disk1 and disk2 (through external floppy). Then it worked, so I went through whole instalation (without doing that I couldn't even start installing because I'd get BSOD [screenshot])

So now im after installation, but everytime like 1second after the Windows Laoding screen appear my pc throw up BSOD and reset immidiatly (like half second after)

I downloaded chipset drivers from here MSI official web (as they are for my laptop, xp of course).


Thanks for help so far.


EDIT:
The BSOD says:
STOP 0x0000007B (0xBACCF524, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)

Edited by defeatersphp@gmail.com, 06 May 2009 - 04:03 PM.



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I had exactly the problem mentioned in your post, but I figured out by installing SATA_IDE /floppy both disk1 and disk2 (through external floppy).

What do you mean with "both disk1 and disk2"? Did you integrate 2 different drivers?
If you have an nForce AHCI system, you should just integrate the SATA_IDE driver folder of a suitable nForce driver package. I recommend to integrate this driver. It is newer and better than that one from MSI home page.
My current system:
ASUS P8Z68-V | Intel Core i5 2500K | 2x4 GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1600 | 2x128GB Crucial M4 SSD as RAID0 in SATA3 mode | Seasonic M12II-520 Modular 520W | ATI Radeon HD6850 1 GB GDDR5
My old system:
DFI nF4 Ultra-D (BIOS: 2006/04/06) | AMD Athlon64 4000+ San Diego | 2x512 MB OCZ PC3200 CL2 Rev.2 Platinum | 2x200 GB Samsung S-ATA II as Raid0 | beQuiet!Titan BQT P5-470W-S1.3 | MSI GeForce NX6600GT-TD128E

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I cant download your file:Invalid File. This error has been forwarded to MediaFire's development team.
Can you please reupload it?

I didnt exactly 'integrate' , i used external floppy to add drivers during installation by pressing F6. And in folder SATA_IDE/FLOPPY there are 2 folders - disk1 and disk2

Edited by defeatersphp@gmail.com, 07 May 2009 - 01:14 AM.


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I cant download your file:Invalid File. This error has been forwarded to MediaFire's development team.

The file is not invalid. I just successfully downloaded it from MediaFire.

I didnt exactly 'integrate' , i used external floppy to add drivers during installation by pressing F6. And in folder SATA_IDE/FLOPPY there are 2 folders - disk1 and disk2

Ok, the reason is the limited floppy size of 1,4 MB.
You should integrate the driver into the OS CD. That is always the better choice.
My current system:
ASUS P8Z68-V | Intel Core i5 2500K | 2x4 GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1600 | 2x128GB Crucial M4 SSD as RAID0 in SATA3 mode | Seasonic M12II-520 Modular 520W | ATI Radeon HD6850 1 GB GDDR5
My old system:
DFI nF4 Ultra-D (BIOS: 2006/04/06) | AMD Athlon64 4000+ San Diego | 2x512 MB OCZ PC3200 CL2 Rev.2 Platinum | 2x200 GB Samsung S-ATA II as Raid0 | beQuiet!Titan BQT P5-470W-S1.3 | MSI GeForce NX6600GT-TD128E

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I cant download your file:Invalid File. This error has been forwarded to MediaFire's development team.

The file is not invalid. I just successfully downloaded it from MediaFire.

I didnt exactly 'integrate' , i used external floppy to add drivers during installation by pressing F6. And in folder SATA_IDE/FLOPPY there are 2 folders - disk1 and disk2

Ok, the reason is the limited floppy size of 1,4 MB.
You should integrate the driver into the OS CD. That is always the better choice.


Thanks, after all the effort I finally made it running with your file. Thanks again. You've done great job, it took me about 10 hours to make it work, but thanks to you at least it do now.
Thanks again, have a nice day!

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Thanks, after all the effort I finally made it running with your file. Thanks again. You've done great job, it took me about 10 hours to make it work, but thanks to you at least it do now.
Thanks again, have a nice day!

You are welcome.
It makes me happy, that I was able to help you.
My current system:
ASUS P8Z68-V | Intel Core i5 2500K | 2x4 GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1600 | 2x128GB Crucial M4 SSD as RAID0 in SATA3 mode | Seasonic M12II-520 Modular 520W | ATI Radeon HD6850 1 GB GDDR5
My old system:
DFI nF4 Ultra-D (BIOS: 2006/04/06) | AMD Athlon64 4000+ San Diego | 2x512 MB OCZ PC3200 CL2 Rev.2 Platinum | 2x200 GB Samsung S-ATA II as Raid0 | beQuiet!Titan BQT P5-470W-S1.3 | MSI GeForce NX6600GT-TD128E

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Yes, both 32/64bit versions of Win7 RC1 do have new in-box nForce IDE drivers v10.6.0.15.
Look here.


If its in-box then i shouldn't bother trying to integrate it... Do you have any other ideas? I really don't want to change my hardware but its looking like my only option.

Thx,
Zak

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If its in-box then i shouldn't bother trying to integrate it...

I have them extracted, but you cannot use them from scratch with Windows XP, because the TXTSETUP.OEM file is missing.

Do you have any other ideas? I really don't want to change my hardware but its looking like my only option.

Assuming, that you have already flashed the latest mainboard BIOS version, I see only the way to break the RAID and to use both SSD's as separate drives. Once NVIDIA has released an SSD compatible nForce RAID driver, you can recreate the RAID.
My current system:
ASUS P8Z68-V | Intel Core i5 2500K | 2x4 GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1600 | 2x128GB Crucial M4 SSD as RAID0 in SATA3 mode | Seasonic M12II-520 Modular 520W | ATI Radeon HD6850 1 GB GDDR5
My old system:
DFI nF4 Ultra-D (BIOS: 2006/04/06) | AMD Athlon64 4000+ San Diego | 2x512 MB OCZ PC3200 CL2 Rev.2 Platinum | 2x200 GB Samsung S-ATA II as Raid0 | beQuiet!Titan BQT P5-470W-S1.3 | MSI GeForce NX6600GT-TD128E

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:(

So I got the bright idea of reformatting today.
I busted out my XP SP3 + RAID CD, which I used in the past, and I got nothing but fail.

I'm dealing with 3 drives in RAID 0 on an MSI P6N SLI Platinum (not V2) - an nForce 650i SLI board.

The first attempts resulted in the ol' 0x0000007B BSOD after the initial loading of drivers and such ("Setup is starting Windows" I think).
So I went about clearing my array and breaking it and rebuilding it and trying again. Still failed.

I played around a bit with Acronis to see if I could just restore my backup image, but since it would have taken ages, I figured I would continue working on the issue.

I then built another CD based on the existing CD - I just added the latest drivers I could grab from MSI's site.
I got past the first hurdle, and XP was able to see and partition and format my drive.

It then failed on the next reboot with some error about a bad disk configuration.
I checked out the boot.ini file (Acronis was able to see my array and partition, read from it, and write to it) and noticed some weirdness, which I attempted to fix. Didn't help.
I rebuilt my array again, and ran the installer from this new (XP + SP3 + old drivers + new drivers) CD again.

This time I got as far as setting up language options and entering the serial and such.
On the next reboot (what should have been the first real boot into Windows) I got a quick blue screen followed by a soft reboot.

I'm currently trying to restore my backup image with Acronis, but with the way things have been going today, I don't have high hopes.

I AM using a SATA optical drive, as it's the only optical drive I have.
I CAN'T set individual SATA ports to IDE/RAID mode (maybe I could in a previous BIOS version for my board?).

Any ideas? I'm currently hunting down a "fresh" XP + SP3 disc, and I'll drop the drivers recommended here on it and try again (though if the restore from the backup works, I may just quit while I'm ahead).
Does anyone know the keyboard shortcuts to enable hidden options in MSI BIOSs? I believe it was something like alt+F2, shift+F4. I dunno. Maybe that reveals the option to set SATA ports to RAID/IDE individually.

I'd hate to have to hunt down an IDE drive, but I may have to. (Curious - why does a SATA optical drive in RAID mode cause issues?)
I'll also run deep scans on my hard drives (they passed the quick scans), or try various combinations of 2 drives in RAID 0 (with the 3rd drive disconnected).

What really bothers me is that I used this disc before and everything went fine.

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@ sexconker:
1. How much RAM are you using? If more than 3GB, remove 1-2 RAM sticks just during the OS installation.
2. Have you tried to connect your CD/DVD drive with the eSATA port of your mainboard while installing the OS? Maybe this will work, because the eSATA port is using a SILICON IMAGE and no NVIDIA nForce SATA Controller, but you have to change the boot device order within the BIOS.
By the way: Not all SATA connected optical drives do have problems with a RAID or AHCI enabled SATA Controller.
My current system:
ASUS P8Z68-V | Intel Core i5 2500K | 2x4 GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1600 | 2x128GB Crucial M4 SSD as RAID0 in SATA3 mode | Seasonic M12II-520 Modular 520W | ATI Radeon HD6850 1 GB GDDR5
My old system:
DFI nF4 Ultra-D (BIOS: 2006/04/06) | AMD Athlon64 4000+ San Diego | 2x512 MB OCZ PC3200 CL2 Rev.2 Platinum | 2x200 GB Samsung S-ATA II as Raid0 | beQuiet!Titan BQT P5-470W-S1.3 | MSI GeForce NX6600GT-TD128E

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Thanks for the reply.

Acronis worked and I'm back on the afflicted machine with no problems (with yesterday's image).

2 GB of RAM.
I've got the P6N SLI-Fi, not the SLI Platinum I guess (so no eSata and no second SATA controller).
This is the optical drive I used to install the OS initially (onto my RAID array).

I'll try with the clean XP + XP3 retail disc, nLite the drivers (from here) onto it, and see what happens.
Now that I know Acronis works (never actually tested the restore before).

Perhaps this weekend / the next 3-day weekend. This was way too much drama for a Monday.

I'll update here with whatever happens.

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Well I tried again yesterday.

Used the clean XP SP3 image, dumped the 10, whatever drivers (from the nForce 15.25 package) into it with nLite (as well as an update pack and a bunch of tweaks).

Worked like a charm. :thumbup

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@ sexconker:
Thanks for your feedback. It's fine, that you succeeded now.

Have fun with Windows XP running on your nForce RAID0 array!
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My current system:
ASUS P8Z68-V | Intel Core i5 2500K | 2x4 GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1600 | 2x128GB Crucial M4 SSD as RAID0 in SATA3 mode | Seasonic M12II-520 Modular 520W | ATI Radeon HD6850 1 GB GDDR5
My old system:
DFI nF4 Ultra-D (BIOS: 2006/04/06) | AMD Athlon64 4000+ San Diego | 2x512 MB OCZ PC3200 CL2 Rev.2 Platinum | 2x200 GB Samsung S-ATA II as Raid0 | beQuiet!Titan BQT P5-470W-S1.3 | MSI GeForce NX6600GT-TD128E

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If its in-box then i shouldn't bother trying to integrate it...

I have them extracted, but you cannot use them from scratch with Windows XP, because the TXTSETUP.OEM file is missing.


Can the txtsetup file be added into the win7 drivers? Or is modifying the driver a fruitless endeavor?

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If its in-box then i shouldn't bother trying to integrate it...

I have them extracted, but you cannot use them from scratch with Windows XP, because the TXTSETUP.OEM file is missing.

Can the txtsetup file be added into the win7 drivers? Or is modifying the driver a fruitless endeavor?

Vista and Win7 don't need and don't use the TXTSETUP.OEM file.
My current system:
ASUS P8Z68-V | Intel Core i5 2500K | 2x4 GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1600 | 2x128GB Crucial M4 SSD as RAID0 in SATA3 mode | Seasonic M12II-520 Modular 520W | ATI Radeon HD6850 1 GB GDDR5
My old system:
DFI nF4 Ultra-D (BIOS: 2006/04/06) | AMD Athlon64 4000+ San Diego | 2x512 MB OCZ PC3200 CL2 Rev.2 Platinum | 2x200 GB Samsung S-ATA II as Raid0 | beQuiet!Titan BQT P5-470W-S1.3 | MSI GeForce NX6600GT-TD128E

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Vista and Win7 don't need and don't use the TXTSETUP.OEM file.


Sorry i didn't make that very clear. Are any parts of the win7 driver compatible or interchangeable with the XP driver?

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Vista and Win7 don't need and don't use the TXTSETUP.OEM file.

Sorry i didn't make that very clear. Are any parts of the win7 driver compatible or interchangeable with the XP driver?

The Win7 in-box nForce drivers may work with Vista, but I doubt, that they will be usable with Windows XP.
My current system:
ASUS P8Z68-V | Intel Core i5 2500K | 2x4 GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1600 | 2x128GB Crucial M4 SSD as RAID0 in SATA3 mode | Seasonic M12II-520 Modular 520W | ATI Radeon HD6850 1 GB GDDR5
My old system:
DFI nF4 Ultra-D (BIOS: 2006/04/06) | AMD Athlon64 4000+ San Diego | 2x512 MB OCZ PC3200 CL2 Rev.2 Platinum | 2x200 GB Samsung S-ATA II as Raid0 | beQuiet!Titan BQT P5-470W-S1.3 | MSI GeForce NX6600GT-TD128E

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is it possible to integrate all textmode drivers (all nvidia and all intel) so as to have only one XP install CD?

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is it possible to integrate all textmode drivers (all nvidia and all intel) so as to have only one XP install CD?

You can integrate more than 1 textmode driver, but I do not recommend to integrate different textmode drivers from the same chipset vendor.
Reason:
The real drivers are the files with the extension ".SYS". Windows XP /32/64bit) Setup will only detect the SATA hdd's, which are set to RAID or AHCI mode, if the suitable textmode driver SYS file is present within the i386/AMD64 directory of the XP CD.
Problem: The chipset vendors (in your case: Intel and NVIDIA) have created and published many different textmode driver versions with completely different functions and compatibilities, but with the same names.
Examples: All 32/64bit Intel SATA drivers are named IASTOR.SYS, NVIDIA's 32bit SATA drivers are named NVATABUS.SYS/NVATA.SYS or NVGTS.SYS.
Bad consequence: If you integrate different Intel or NVIDIA textmode drivers into the same XP CD (32/64bit), the final OS installation may fail, because the correct SATA driver (SYS file) has been overwritten during the driver integration processing.
My current system:
ASUS P8Z68-V | Intel Core i5 2500K | 2x4 GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1600 | 2x128GB Crucial M4 SSD as RAID0 in SATA3 mode | Seasonic M12II-520 Modular 520W | ATI Radeon HD6850 1 GB GDDR5
My old system:
DFI nF4 Ultra-D (BIOS: 2006/04/06) | AMD Athlon64 4000+ San Diego | 2x512 MB OCZ PC3200 CL2 Rev.2 Platinum | 2x200 GB Samsung S-ATA II as Raid0 | beQuiet!Titan BQT P5-470W-S1.3 | MSI GeForce NX6600GT-TD128E

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First up: thanks Fernando1 for your hard work and dedication on this for 86 pages!! Rather than trawl through that lot, I'll post my question here at the end!

I'm trying to put together a sysprep image that supports the diverse hardware in my organization. I've successfully integrated drivers from Intel, JMicron and Silicon Image but I'm having trouble with the nForce kit. We have a small number of systems based on nForce 1, 2, 3, 4 and 410/430, so I am using "Fernandos XP 32bit nForce LEGACY Remix Pack v5.5a" as it seems to support them all. Unfortunately, my 410/430 based system (an Asus A8N-VM CSM motherboard with SATA RAID 5) crashes with a BSOD 0x07B error on first boot.

I have three folders in my image's C:\Drivers\Storage folder:
nVidia1 (which contains the contents of the "sataraid" folder from the driver pack)
nVidia2 (files from the "sata_ide" folder)
nVidia3 (files from the "legacy" folder)

(The reason the folders are numbered like this is to get the sysprep process to try them in order (newest to oldest) and use the first driver it finds that works)

My sysprep.inf [SysprepMassStorage] section contains the following lines:
 
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0266&CC_0104=C:\Drivers\Storage\nVidia1\nvraid.inf
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0267&CC_0104=C:\Drivers\Storage\nVidia1\nvraid.inf
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0266&CC_0101=C:\Drivers\Storage\nVidia2\nvata.inf
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0267&CC_0101=C:\Drivers\Storage\nVidia2\nvata.inf
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0265&CC_0101=C:\Drivers\Storage\nVidia3\nvatabus.inf

(There are other lines to support other mass storage controllers, I've just included the relevant ones for the 410/430)

First of all, am I using the correct drivers for what I want to accomplish?
Second, am I doing this the right way?

Thanks in advance for any help/guidance/ideas you can give me!!

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@ beardy:
Welcome at MSFN Forums!

Here is my comment:
1. If you want to use 1 single driverpack for nForce2, nForce3, nForce4 and nForce 430/410 (MCP51) chipset mainboards, you have chosen the best suitable one. The included nForce IDE drivers v6.99 will fully support them all.
2. It is not a good idea to integrate all 3 IDE driver folders (SATARAID, SATA_IDE and LEGACY). My suggestion: Just integrate the LEGACY driver folder. This way nearly all possible hdd configurations (even PATA and PataRAID Controllers) will be supported.
3. The ASUS A8N-VM CSM motherboard is supporting RAID5, but you will need an appropriate mainboard BIOS and nVRAID BIOS version.

Good luck!
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My current system:
ASUS P8Z68-V | Intel Core i5 2500K | 2x4 GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1600 | 2x128GB Crucial M4 SSD as RAID0 in SATA3 mode | Seasonic M12II-520 Modular 520W | ATI Radeon HD6850 1 GB GDDR5
My old system:
DFI nF4 Ultra-D (BIOS: 2006/04/06) | AMD Athlon64 4000+ San Diego | 2x512 MB OCZ PC3200 CL2 Rev.2 Platinum | 2x200 GB Samsung S-ATA II as Raid0 | beQuiet!Titan BQT P5-470W-S1.3 | MSI GeForce NX6600GT-TD128E

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Hi all - new member of the forum - found Fernando's post on NVRAID installs, read through many of the pages, and it looks fantastic. Couldn't find my solution exactly, though.

Before I kill data on my drives, I thought I'd ask for some advice. Though I've mastered plenty of weird XP quirks, this one's slightly beyond me.

System:
Asus nForce5 590SLI (M2N32SLI Dlx)
GeForce 8800GT
2x 74GB raptors (RAID 1) (Edit: fixed RAID type)
2x 160G Hitachis (RAID 1) (Edit: fixed RAID type)
1x 500G Seagate
1x 250G WD (fresh drive)

I was having some BSOD errors yesterday, so decided to upgrade drivers in case that was the problem. Went to NV nForce 15.25, and it killed the nV RAID. Drives are still there, but during POST, the pc hangs at "Detecting Array" if I try RAID-enabling the Raptors in BIOS. If I leave them as JBOD, but RAID-0 the Hitachis, POST says "Healthy" array, but WinXP Pro doesn't see them at all.

I've re-installed XPpro on the 250G, but didn't do the F6-install for drivers, just trying to see if all my data was on the HDDs. It is.

Now, the system's booting off one of the Raptors, but only in JBOD mode. DevMgr says the NVRaid controller's working properly, Ver 10.3.0.46. But no RAIDs visible.

Any ideas? I'm copying all data to the SG & WD drives in case I have to do a wipe, but I really, really want to avoid that.
Or, if I drop the Raptors to JBOD, and do a fresh XP install on one of them, then "rebuild" the array, can I tell it which directories to mirror from each drive? Or would I just be SOL?

TIA,
Jim/ByTor

Edited by Bytor, 08 July 2009 - 09:22 PM.


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@ Bytor:

Welcome at MSFN Forums!

Before I can give you any advice, I need some additional informations:
1. Before you installed Windows XP onto your single WD hdd, which OS were you running?
2. Do you have any additional OS installed?
3. On which hard disk drive is the boot sector (MBR)?
4. Is it possible, that you got more than 1 MBR within your system?
5. Which order did you set at the BIOS option "HARD DISK BOOT PRIORITY"?
6. Did you really create 2 RAID0 (=striped) arrays? I ask this, because you wrote about a "mirror", which would be a RAID1 array.
My current system:
ASUS P8Z68-V | Intel Core i5 2500K | 2x4 GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1600 | 2x128GB Crucial M4 SSD as RAID0 in SATA3 mode | Seasonic M12II-520 Modular 520W | ATI Radeon HD6850 1 GB GDDR5
My old system:
DFI nF4 Ultra-D (BIOS: 2006/04/06) | AMD Athlon64 4000+ San Diego | 2x512 MB OCZ PC3200 CL2 Rev.2 Platinum | 2x200 GB Samsung S-ATA II as Raid0 | beQuiet!Titan BQT P5-470W-S1.3 | MSI GeForce NX6600GT-TD128E

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@ Bytor:

Welcome at MSFN Forums!

Before I can give you any advice, I need some additional informations:
1. Before you installed Windows XP onto your single WD hdd, which OS were you running?
A: WinXP Pro 32, SP2. Same as is on the single WD

2. Do you have any additional OS installed?
A: Not at this time.

3. On which hard disk drive is the boot sector (MBR)?
A: Normally it would be on the RAIDed Raptors.

4. Is it possible, that you got more than 1 MBR within your system?
A: If the C: RAID wasn't detected, I imagine the BIOS could see a MBR on SATA 1 & SATA5 (where the Raptors are connected)

5. Which order did you set at the BIOS option "HARD DISK BOOT PRIORITY"?
A: Normally, it's set to HD/CD/Removable or HD/CD/Disabled.

6. Did you really create 2 RAID0 (=striped) arrays? I ask this, because you wrote about a "mirror", which would be a RAID1 array.
A: Bleah. You're right. I wasn't thinking clearly. They're 2 sets of mirrored drives, RAID 1. 1 set is the Raptors, for /Windows and fast-access programs, the 2nd set is the Hitachis, for slower-access pgms (Orifice, etc) and digital media files, and all other /My Documents stuffs.

See embedded answers... I really appreciate the help.

I'm about ready to trash one of the Raptors with a LLFormat, and just build a new RAID array from the other drive. This may be the least painful solution, unless you've got some other ideas. :)

One additional note - I'm now able to see the Hitachis in RAID-1 within Windows - functioning normally. Registered the nvraidservice thru the .bat file, and that made them visible. Thought I'd try re-enabling RAID on the Raptors, and the system hangs again at "Detecting Array." I haven't gone back to clear CMOS yet, because I don't have the willpower to spend a few hours on the PC right now - that'll be a weekend job. Posting this now from the wife's lappy.

Edited by Bytor, 08 July 2009 - 09:24 PM.


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The Hitachi-Problem seems to be solved, so let`s look at your Raptors.

You got 2 of them, they were figured as RAID-1, so both HDDs have the full data on it.
If one of the HDDs crashes you`re able to REBUILD the RAID-0 with another spare HDD.

I would give this a try: Use your "1x 250G WD (fresh drive)" as spare drive and try to
rebuild the (former Raptor-) RAID-1. Try this with both Raptors to see if one causes the failure.

Edited by g-force, 08 July 2009 - 09:49 PM.

g-force @ Win-Lite.de
Make sure to always start with a fresh copy of your CD files/folders,
do all your work in one nLite session and integrate only one SP.
Please report when you have a solution, so others can benefit.





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