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Integration of NVIDIA's nForce RAID and AHCI drivers Guide and help for XP and W2k3 (32/64bit) Rate Topic: ***** 4 Votes

#1701 User is offline   defeatersphp@gmail.com 

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 03:53 PM

problem is, i can't flash bios (and my version doesn't support that), it's not my laptop and I don't want to risk someone else property... I had exactly the problem mentioned in your post, but I figured out by installing SATA_IDE /floppy both disk1 and disk2 (through external floppy). Then it worked, so I went through whole instalation (without doing that I couldn't even start installing because I'd get BSOD [screenshot])

So now im after installation, but everytime like 1second after the Windows Laoding screen appear my pc throw up BSOD and reset immidiatly (like half second after)

I downloaded chipset drivers from here MSI official web (as they are for my laptop, xp of course).


Thanks for help so far.


EDIT:
The BSOD says:
STOP 0x0000007B (0xBACCF524, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)

This post has been edited by defeatersphp@gmail.com: 06 May 2009 - 04:03 PM



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Posted 06 May 2009 - 04:25 PM

View Postdefeatersphp@gmail.com, on May 6 2009, 11:53 PM, said:

I had exactly the problem mentioned in your post, but I figured out by installing SATA_IDE /floppy both disk1 and disk2 (through external floppy).
What do you mean with "both disk1 and disk2"? Did you integrate 2 different drivers?
If you have an nForce AHCI system, you should just integrate the SATA_IDE driver folder of a suitable nForce driver package. I recommend to integrate this driver. It is newer and better than that one from MSI home page.

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 01:10 AM

I cant download your file:Invalid File. This error has been forwarded to MediaFire's development team.
Can you please reupload it?

I didnt exactly 'integrate' , i used external floppy to add drivers during installation by pressing F6. And in folder SATA_IDE/FLOPPY there are 2 folders - disk1 and disk2

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 02:26 AM

View Postdefeatersphp@gmail.com, on May 7 2009, 09:10 AM, said:

I cant download your file:Invalid File. This error has been forwarded to MediaFire's development team.
The file is not invalid. I just successfully downloaded it from MediaFire.

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I didnt exactly 'integrate' , i used external floppy to add drivers during installation by pressing F6. And in folder SATA_IDE/FLOPPY there are 2 folders - disk1 and disk2
Ok, the reason is the limited floppy size of 1,4 MB.
You should integrate the driver into the OS CD. That is always the better choice.

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 09:03 AM

View PostFernando 1, on May 7 2009, 02:26 AM, said:

View Postdefeatersphp@gmail.com, on May 7 2009, 09:10 AM, said:

I cant download your file:Invalid File. This error has been forwarded to MediaFire's development team.
The file is not invalid. I just successfully downloaded it from MediaFire.

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I didnt exactly 'integrate' , i used external floppy to add drivers during installation by pressing F6. And in folder SATA_IDE/FLOPPY there are 2 folders - disk1 and disk2
Ok, the reason is the limited floppy size of 1,4 MB.
You should integrate the driver into the OS CD. That is always the better choice.


Thanks, after all the effort I finally made it running with your file. Thanks again. You've done great job, it took me about 10 hours to make it work, but thanks to you at least it do now.
Thanks again, have a nice day!

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 09:10 AM

View Postdefeatersphp@gmail.com, on May 7 2009, 05:03 PM, said:

Thanks, after all the effort I finally made it running with your file. Thanks again. You've done great job, it took me about 10 hours to make it work, but thanks to you at least it do now.
Thanks again, have a nice day!
You are welcome.
It makes me happy, that I was able to help you.

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  Posted 07 May 2009 - 01:26 PM

View PostFernando 1, on May 5 2009, 03:37 PM, said:

Yes, both 32/64bit versions of Win7 RC1 do have new in-box nForce IDE drivers v10.6.0.15.
Look here.


If its in-box then i shouldn't bother trying to integrate it... Do you have any other ideas? I really don't want to change my hardware but its looking like my only option.

Thx,
Zak

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 02:18 PM

View PostAthari, on May 7 2009, 09:26 PM, said:

If its in-box then i shouldn't bother trying to integrate it...
I have them extracted, but you cannot use them from scratch with Windows XP, because the TXTSETUP.OEM file is missing.

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Do you have any other ideas? I really don't want to change my hardware but its looking like my only option.
Assuming, that you have already flashed the latest mainboard BIOS version, I see only the way to break the RAID and to use both SSD's as separate drives. Once NVIDIA has released an SSD compatible nForce RAID driver, you can recreate the RAID.

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  Posted 12 May 2009 - 12:36 AM

:(

So I got the bright idea of reformatting today.
I busted out my XP SP3 + RAID CD, which I used in the past, and I got nothing but fail.

I'm dealing with 3 drives in RAID 0 on an MSI P6N SLI Platinum (not V2) - an nForce 650i SLI board.

The first attempts resulted in the ol' 0x0000007B BSOD after the initial loading of drivers and such ("Setup is starting Windows" I think).
So I went about clearing my array and breaking it and rebuilding it and trying again. Still failed.

I played around a bit with Acronis to see if I could just restore my backup image, but since it would have taken ages, I figured I would continue working on the issue.

I then built another CD based on the existing CD - I just added the latest drivers I could grab from MSI's site.
I got past the first hurdle, and XP was able to see and partition and format my drive.

It then failed on the next reboot with some error about a bad disk configuration.
I checked out the boot.ini file (Acronis was able to see my array and partition, read from it, and write to it) and noticed some weirdness, which I attempted to fix. Didn't help.
I rebuilt my array again, and ran the installer from this new (XP + SP3 + old drivers + new drivers) CD again.

This time I got as far as setting up language options and entering the serial and such.
On the next reboot (what should have been the first real boot into Windows) I got a quick blue screen followed by a soft reboot.

I'm currently trying to restore my backup image with Acronis, but with the way things have been going today, I don't have high hopes.

I AM using a SATA optical drive, as it's the only optical drive I have.
I CAN'T set individual SATA ports to IDE/RAID mode (maybe I could in a previous BIOS version for my board?).

Any ideas? I'm currently hunting down a "fresh" XP + SP3 disc, and I'll drop the drivers recommended here on it and try again (though if the restore from the backup works, I may just quit while I'm ahead).
Does anyone know the keyboard shortcuts to enable hidden options in MSI BIOSs? I believe it was something like alt+F2, shift+F4. I dunno. Maybe that reveals the option to set SATA ports to RAID/IDE individually.

I'd hate to have to hunt down an IDE drive, but I may have to. (Curious - why does a SATA optical drive in RAID mode cause issues?)
I'll also run deep scans on my hard drives (they passed the quick scans), or try various combinations of 2 drives in RAID 0 (with the 3rd drive disconnected).

What really bothers me is that I used this disc before and everything went fine.

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 01:39 AM

@ sexconker:
1. How much RAM are you using? If more than 3GB, remove 1-2 RAM sticks just during the OS installation.
2. Have you tried to connect your CD/DVD drive with the eSATA port of your mainboard while installing the OS? Maybe this will work, because the eSATA port is using a SILICON IMAGE and no NVIDIA nForce SATA Controller, but you have to change the boot device order within the BIOS.
By the way: Not all SATA connected optical drives do have problems with a RAID or AHCI enabled SATA Controller.

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 02:25 AM

Thanks for the reply.

Acronis worked and I'm back on the afflicted machine with no problems (with yesterday's image).

2 GB of RAM.
I've got the P6N SLI-Fi, not the SLI Platinum I guess (so no eSata and no second SATA controller).
This is the optical drive I used to install the OS initially (onto my RAID array).

I'll try with the clean XP + XP3 retail disc, nLite the drivers (from here) onto it, and see what happens.
Now that I know Acronis works (never actually tested the restore before).

Perhaps this weekend / the next 3-day weekend. This was way too much drama for a Monday.

I'll update here with whatever happens.

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 09:31 AM

Well I tried again yesterday.

Used the clean XP SP3 image, dumped the 10, whatever drivers (from the nForce 15.25 package) into it with nLite (as well as an update pack and a bunch of tweaks).

Worked like a charm. :thumbup

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 01:25 PM

@ sexconker:
Thanks for your feedback. It's fine, that you succeeded now.

Have fun with Windows XP running on your nForce RAID0 array!
Fernando

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  Posted 06 June 2009 - 09:52 PM

View PostFernando 1, on May 7 2009, 02:18 PM, said:

View PostAthari, on May 7 2009, 09:26 PM, said:

If its in-box then i shouldn't bother trying to integrate it...
I have them extracted, but you cannot use them from scratch with Windows XP, because the TXTSETUP.OEM file is missing.


Can the txtsetup file be added into the win7 drivers? Or is modifying the driver a fruitless endeavor?

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 05:49 AM

View PostAthari, on Jun 7 2009, 05:52 AM, said:

View PostFernando 1, on May 7 2009, 02:18 PM, said:

View PostAthari, on May 7 2009, 09:26 PM, said:

If its in-box then i shouldn't bother trying to integrate it...
I have them extracted, but you cannot use them from scratch with Windows XP, because the TXTSETUP.OEM file is missing.
Can the txtsetup file be added into the win7 drivers? Or is modifying the driver a fruitless endeavor?
Vista and Win7 don't need and don't use the TXTSETUP.OEM file.

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 06:30 AM

View PostFernando 1, on Jun 8 2009, 05:49 AM, said:

Vista and Win7 don't need and don't use the TXTSETUP.OEM file.


Sorry i didn't make that very clear. Are any parts of the win7 driver compatible or interchangeable with the XP driver?

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 04:08 AM

View PostAthari, on Jun 8 2009, 02:30 PM, said:

View PostFernando 1, on Jun 8 2009, 05:49 AM, said:

Vista and Win7 don't need and don't use the TXTSETUP.OEM file.
Sorry i didn't make that very clear. Are any parts of the win7 driver compatible or interchangeable with the XP driver?
The Win7 in-box nForce drivers may work with Vista, but I doubt, that they will be usable with Windows XP.

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 07:36 PM

is it possible to integrate all textmode drivers (all nvidia and all intel) so as to have only one XP install CD?

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 02:34 AM

View Postisidro, on Jun 18 2009, 03:36 AM, said:

is it possible to integrate all textmode drivers (all nvidia and all intel) so as to have only one XP install CD?
You can integrate more than 1 textmode driver, but I do not recommend to integrate different textmode drivers from the same chipset vendor.
Reason:
The real drivers are the files with the extension ".SYS". Windows XP /32/64bit) Setup will only detect the SATA hdd's, which are set to RAID or AHCI mode, if the suitable textmode driver SYS file is present within the i386/AMD64 directory of the XP CD.
Problem: The chipset vendors (in your case: Intel and NVIDIA) have created and published many different textmode driver versions with completely different functions and compatibilities, but with the same names.
Examples: All 32/64bit Intel SATA drivers are named IASTOR.SYS, NVIDIA's 32bit SATA drivers are named NVATABUS.SYS/NVATA.SYS or NVGTS.SYS.
Bad consequence: If you integrate different Intel or NVIDIA textmode drivers into the same XP CD (32/64bit), the final OS installation may fail, because the correct SATA driver (SYS file) has been overwritten during the driver integration processing.

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 04:51 AM

First up: thanks Fernando1 for your hard work and dedication on this for 86 pages!! Rather than trawl through that lot, I'll post my question here at the end!

I'm trying to put together a sysprep image that supports the diverse hardware in my organization. I've successfully integrated drivers from Intel, JMicron and Silicon Image but I'm having trouble with the nForce kit. We have a small number of systems based on nForce 1, 2, 3, 4 and 410/430, so I am using "Fernandos XP 32bit nForce LEGACY Remix Pack v5.5a" as it seems to support them all. Unfortunately, my 410/430 based system (an Asus A8N-VM CSM motherboard with SATA RAID 5) crashes with a BSOD 0x07B error on first boot.

I have three folders in my image's C:\Drivers\Storage folder:
nVidia1 (which contains the contents of the "sataraid" folder from the driver pack)
nVidia2 (files from the "sata_ide" folder)
nVidia3 (files from the "legacy" folder)

(The reason the folders are numbered like this is to get the sysprep process to try them in order (newest to oldest) and use the first driver it finds that works)

My sysprep.inf [SysprepMassStorage] section contains the following lines:
 
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0266&CC_0104=C:\Drivers\Storage\nVidia1\nvraid.inf
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0267&CC_0104=C:\Drivers\Storage\nVidia1\nvraid.inf
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0266&CC_0101=C:\Drivers\Storage\nVidia2\nvata.inf
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0267&CC_0101=C:\Drivers\Storage\nVidia2\nvata.inf
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0265&CC_0101=C:\Drivers\Storage\nVidia3\nvatabus.inf 

(There are other lines to support other mass storage controllers, I've just included the relevant ones for the 410/430)

First of all, am I using the correct drivers for what I want to accomplish?
Second, am I doing this the right way?

Thanks in advance for any help/guidance/ideas you can give me!!

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