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Integration of NVIDIA's nForce RAID and AHCI drivers Guide and help for XP and W2k3 (32/64bit) Rate Topic: ***** 4 Votes

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Posted 18 April 2006 - 06:14 PM

Dear Fernando 1:

Thanks for your excellent instructions and the nlite prgram that I had succesfully installed the Windows 2003 Server 64bit version on the SATA RAID of our SUN FIRE X2100 server few months ago.

Unfortunately, there are some incompatibities between the OS and the apps we try to use (Cold Fusion and Crystal Report 8.0), I am forced to wipe out the whole server and start installing 32 bit version of Windows Server 2003 first.

This time I am hitting the wall. With quite a few CDs already with different driver (6.69, 6.70, mixed), I always get to the same "The file nvrdx64.sys is corrupted" error.

What is this file doing here any way? I am installing the 32 bit version.

Please help.

Thanks you very much.


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Posted 19 April 2006 - 12:45 AM

View Posthting1688, on Apr 19 2006, 02:14 AM, said:

This time I am hitting the wall. With quite a few CDs already with different driver (6.69, 6.70, mixed), I always get to the same "The file nvrdx64.sys is corrupted" error.
What is this file doing here any way? I am installing the 32 bit version.
If you want to install a 32-bit OS like Windows XP or Windows Server 2003 you have to take one of the 32-bit nForce driver packages (look into the first post of this thread). As the NVRDX64.SYS is a 64-bit driver, the 32-bit OS cannot install it.

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Posted 19 April 2006 - 12:57 AM

View Postjohan1980, on Apr 18 2006, 10:56 PM, said:

What i have done is that i have a windows xp cd with sp2 already and it has alot of other raid drivers this DVD was already Unattended
You should not take the drivers off a CD or DVD, which was already built by a tool like nLite.

View Postjohan1980, on Apr 18 2006, 10:56 PM, said:

i created a map OEMDIR in $OEM$\$$\
Why did you do this? This makes no sense. The OemInfFiles method does not work with the RC versions of nLite.

View PostRagnaroth, on Apr 19 2006, 01:51 AM, said:

Sorry, but i'm slightly confused. :P I'm not sure what chipset driver package i should be using. I've bought a DFI LanParty UT NF4 Ultra-D, which arrives tommorow. Do i download the 6.70 or the 6.85 drivers?
The best nForce driver packege for your board (I have the same) is the 6.70 one.

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Posted 19 April 2006 - 12:46 PM

Thanks for the fast reply.

This is what I have found out. I downloaded the Nvidia professional driver from the offcial website which claimed to be 32 bit driver but actually is , I believe, a 64 bit version.

Then the mistake of mine is not using a fresh OS copy every time. What I assumed to be new driver still contains the contamined contents from the first try and failed with the same error.

Two things learned:

1. Always use a fresh OS copy every time a new driver is tested.
2. The 6.69 SATARAID driver itself is good enough (in my case) . No need to copy the 6.70 files nor the IDE files.

Thanks.

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Posted 19 April 2006 - 12:59 PM

View Posthting1688, on Apr 19 2006, 08:46 PM, said:

Two things learned:
1. Always use a fresh OS copy every time a new driver is tested.
2. The 6.69 SATARAID driver itself is good enough (in my case) . No need to copy the 6.70 files nor the IDE files.
I agree, but point 2 might only be correct for you, if you want to install Windows Server 2003. Because of the lack of a LEGACY subfolder within the package 6.69 normal users have to add some files off the 6.70 package (see my first post).

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Posted 19 April 2006 - 01:02 PM

Correction:

You still need 6.70 drivers and 6.69 IDE drivers.

The server is able to be loaded but I have no IDE devices.

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Posted 19 April 2006 - 01:25 PM

thnx Fernando 1
i will try it with a fresh copy of windows xp with no stuff on it maby that's why i get some strange things
butt can i use a windows xp with sp2 alraedy slippstreamed ?
thnx for the tips

when i have more time i will test it again

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Posted 19 April 2006 - 01:26 PM

View Postjohan1980, on Apr 19 2006, 09:25 PM, said:

butt can i use a windows xp with sp2 alraedy slippstreamed ?
Yes, that is no problem at all!

Good luck!
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Posted 19 April 2006 - 08:03 PM

View PostFernando 1, on Apr 18 2006, 03:22 AM, said:

View Postrjerina, on Apr 18 2006, 04:36 AM, said:

Blue screen at bootup still. Burned a CD at 8X. Are you sure that i dont need nvata.cat and nvraid.cat to some how get loaded during the setup files copy phase?
I am sure, that they are not necessary, but nevertheless you may add them if you want.
I think that either your system does not comply with the requirements of the driver integration method layed down in my first post (overclocked system, ACPI not enabled or nVRaid BIOS version lower than 4.84) or you have a hardware problem which has to be resolved first.

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I am so lost...
Here is another nForce SataRaid driver integration method you may try:
http://board.vitaligraf.de/showthread.php?...id=1011#pid1011

Good luck!
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That software didnt work either. I keep getting a corrupted or missing ntfs.dll or some other error. i tried another cdrom drive and got the same result. i think it's my motherboard...

my ram tests out fine after 14 hours of testing, my hard drives are error free, cdrom drive is fine. even tried different sata cables. *sigh*

what a nightmare

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Posted 21 April 2006 - 03:42 AM

@ all users of this thread, who want help:

As I am not at home for 5 weeks, I cannot take part in this thread for a while, but I am sure, that there are other forum members, who will help you.
I'll be back here at the end of May.

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EDIT: I had to cancel my trip - so I will be present for needed help.

This post has been edited by Fernando 1: 23 April 2006 - 03:56 PM


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Posted 21 April 2006 - 01:34 PM

I com to thank the creator of the solution, cause it worked for me:

A8N-E
2 Samsung 0802N ATA, working in RAID-0, with NVRAID, windows installed and everything OK.

NLITE process worked good :)

THANKS FOR REAL

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Posted 23 April 2006 - 10:26 AM

please help..

i've followed the directions exactly. i made the changes to the sataraid folder (as per the 2nd insatll method under windows xp) and then just added as a driver via nlite one of the files in the sataraid folder (it only showed me 3 files) and that added the two drivers.

i've cleared the raid and sarted over did a new install...i see the windows cd setup show the nvidia raid class storage and the other raid driver however all i (after all installing is done) ever get is a quick flash of the windows xp screen then my system just reboots..and does the samethign over and over.

safe mode gives the same result....if i do safemode with command prompt i can see it pauses for a second at mup.sys then does the reboot..so i then found out how to disable mup and now it just crashes at the next file after mup (i.e. mup was not the problem)


please help guys i've been fighting with this tyring to get a bootable raid 0 for over two weeks straight.


2nd question: if i follow:

Windows XP:
For the integration of the SataRaid or PataRaid drivers I propose to take the new official 32-bit NVIDIA nForce chipset driver package v. 6.70 (you may download it here, then extract the content). Fortunately NVIDIA has established a subfolder named LEGACY within the IDE\WinXP directory of this package. As this subfolder contains all necessary files, for most of the users any further preparations of this package are dispensable.


do i need to add everything from each of these 4 or 5 folders into nlite? because nlite will not let me just add the legacy folder... this is not clear at all..

thanks

joe

my sys info: (im not overclocking at all for when i do this install btw)

****DFI lanparty nf4 expert***
december 2005 DFI official bios
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Crucial Ballistix 2 x 1gb 3-3-3-6 280 fsb (primary ram)
OR
2x 512 Geil ones DDR400 PC3200 Dual Channel ONE Series ram (Capable running at DDR400MHz CAS 1.5-2-2-5 and DDR 600MHz CAS 2.5-4-4-7 all @ 3.1v or less) (secondary ram)
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x2 3800 manchester cpu 9X multi (2.53 ghz @ 1.62vcore)
Asetek Xtreme Triple Radiator Liquid Cooling
Huge Coolermaster case + 11 fans (yea!)
2x Zalman Fan controlers (Ze best!)
(2x 5500 geforce cards AND
1 x 6600 geforce (i dont game..just run 6 monitors) )
PC Power & Cooling Turbo Cool 850watt

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Posted 23 April 2006 - 04:14 PM

View Postjo2jo, on Apr 23 2006, 06:26 PM, said:

i've cleared the raid and sarted over did a new install...i see the windows cd setup show the nvidia raid class storage and the other raid driver however all i (after all installing is done) ever get is a quick flash of the windows xp screen then my system just reboots..and does the samethign over and over.
Was your Raid array correctly detected by XP setup during the first (TEXTMODE) part of the installation?
You can prevent the reboot, if you hit F8 at the startup and then choose the option "no reboot at system failure". If you are doing this, you probably get a real error message, which shows us the way to solve your problem.

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2nd question: if i follow:
Windows XP:
For the integration of the SataRaid or PataRaid drivers I propose to take the new official 32-bit NVIDIA nForce chipset driver package v. 6.70 (you may download it here, then extract the content). Fortunately NVIDIA has established a subfolder named LEGACY within the IDE\WinXP directory of this package. As this subfolder contains all necessary files, for most of the users any further preparations of this package are dispensable.
do i need to add everything from each of these 4 or 5 folders into nlite?
No, you always need only a single folder (a folder with an INF file in it) for the integration of a driver. What I meant is, that there is no reason to copy files off other subfolders, when you choose the easy method by just taking the LEGACY subfolder.

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 04:02 PM

I just want to point out that after I spent countless hours trying to integrate these drivers, I discovered that it doesn't work with nlite rc7 (would get bsod when staring windows for first time). It finally worked using nlite rc5. I would still get a lot of 'setup cannot find x file' but can still work hitting esc.

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 04:41 PM

View Post99Percent, on Apr 26 2006, 12:02 AM, said:

I just want to point out that after I spent countless hours trying to integrate these drivers, I discovered that it doesn't work with nlite rc7 (would get bsod when staring windows for first time). It finally worked using nlite rc5. I would still get a lot of 'setup cannot find x file' but can still work hitting esc.
It would be helpful, if you give us some informations about your system (mainboard, chipset, hdd's) and the name of the files, which could not be found by the XP setup.

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Posted 26 April 2006 - 07:28 PM

View PostFernando 1, on Apr 25 2006, 04:41 PM, said:

View Post99Percent, on Apr 26 2006, 12:02 AM, said:

I just want to point out that after I spent countless hours trying to integrate these drivers, I discovered that it doesn't work with nlite rc7 (would get bsod when staring windows for first time). It finally worked using nlite rc5. I would still get a lot of 'setup cannot find x file' but can still work hitting esc.
It would be helpful, if you give us some informations about your system (mainboard, chipset, hdd's) and the name of the files, which could not be found by the XP setup.

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I was trying to install Windows XP Prof Service Pack 2 on a Shuttle XPC SN25P, with Nvidia Nforce4 AMD drivers on a nvraid with two 74GB Raptors.

The files that wouldn't copy were the ones related to the nvraid driver itself (nvata/cat. odecoi.dll, nvatabus.inf, etc). The strange thing is, is that the system worked fine even after ignoring with cancel (ESC) the files that wanted setup to copy.

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 12:39 AM

View Post99Percent, on Apr 27 2006, 03:28 AM, said:

The files that wouldn't copy were the ones related to the nvraid driver itself (nvata/cat. odecoi.dll, nvatabus.inf, etc). The strange thing is, is that the system worked fine even after ignoring with cancel (ESC) the files that wanted setup to copy.
That is really strange, because the files IDECOI.DLL and NVATABUS.INF (not the NVATA.CAT) are absolutely needed for the successful install of the SataRaid drivers.
Is it possible, that you installed the SataRaid drivers twice (as TEXTMODE and PnP)?

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Posted 28 April 2006 - 12:14 AM

View PostFernando 1, on Apr 27 2006, 12:39 AM, said:

View Post99Percent, on Apr 27 2006, 03:28 AM, said:

The files that wouldn't copy were the ones related to the nvraid driver itself (nvata/cat. odecoi.dll, nvatabus.inf, etc). The strange thing is, is that the system worked fine even after ignoring with cancel (ESC) the files that wanted setup to copy.
That is really strange, because the files IDECOI.DLL and NVATABUS.INF (not the NVATA.CAT) are absolutely needed for the successful install of the SataRaid drivers.
Is it possible, that you installed the SataRaid drivers twice (as TEXTMODE and PnP)?

I really can't say, I just added the drivers looking up the directory. I am not a nlite expert. As far as I can tell it added the drivers as Textmode.

Windows Setup detected the nvidia raid before asking whether to partition or format the drive. It was after this while copying the files over to the new installation that setup said it could not find the files. Again, just hitting ESC for all the "missing" files would still work. In nlite RC7 the resulting installation would result in an endless bsod reboot cycle, in RC5 it would startup fine. Hope this helps.

As a BTW, in RC5 I got the annoying undeletable c:/program files/xerox, netmeeting, etc directories, while in RC4 and below this did not happen. I wish someone could tell me whats up with that.

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Posted 28 April 2006 - 12:37 AM

View Post99Percent, on Apr 28 2006, 08:14 AM, said:

Windows Setup detected the nvidia raid before asking whether to partition or format the drive. It was after this while copying the files over to the new installation that setup said it could not find the files. Again, just hitting ESC for all the "missing" files would still work. In nlite RC7 the resulting installation would result in an endless bsod reboot cycle, in RC5 it would startup fine. Hope this helps.
As a BTW, in RC5 I got the annoying undeletable c:/program files/xerox, netmeeting, etc directories, while in RC4 and below this did not happen. I wish someone could tell me whats up with that.
Each new nLite release included a lot of changes with positive and negative influences on the big varietry of pc systems.
That is the reason why Nuhi as the "composer" of nLite should know about your findings.
As Nuhi normally does not look into this thread (which is mostly moderated by me as the starter of this thread), I want to encourage you to report about your experiences with the different RC versions within another thread (for example here: http://www.msfn.org/...howtopic=69223) or to start a new thread within the nLite forum.
Thanks!

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Posted 28 April 2006 - 06:28 PM

Just want to add how great this program is. Prior to accidently discovering it I was spending weeks trying to manually confiure an unattended Windows 2000/XP install using a tutorial I found at PCStats, what a nightmare!

Anyway, here is my question - I've just put together a new system with the following hardware:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ / Scythe Ninja Plus / OCZ (1GBx2) PC3200 DDR DIMM Dual Channel Platinum / Asus A8N-SLI Premium / Phoenix-Award v1008 /eVGA 7800 GT CO / WD Raptor 74GB / 2X WD CaviarRE2 400GB / Plextor PX-716A / NEC ND-3550A / Mitsumi 7-in-1 + Floppy FD-FA404M / Thermaltake 680W W0049RUC / NZXT LEXA / Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS

According to the Asus/Nvidia manuals, Nvidia only supports Raid-0, 1, 0+1 and JBOD. If I want to setup a Raid-5 array, I need to use the Silicon Image (Marvel) drivers which I understand from a number of sources are less desirable. Be that as it may, it leaves me with little choice. So the big question is has anyone successfully integrated these into a slipstream WinXP install?

Thanks

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