[PVU]

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PVU, on May 11 2006, 08:31 AM, said:

Fernando, this maybe slightly off topic, but when I'm using the Windows Unattended CD Creator to add the Intel iaStor storage driver, the program asks me to pick one. Does it matter? Because the $OEM$ file that is created shows all of them, and the WINNT.SIF just makes reference to the file name.
I ask this because I have 2 machines I want the install disk to be good for. Both machines would pull from the same storage file, but one is a ICH6R - 82801FR, and the other is a ICH7R/DH - 82801GR/GH.
nLite would pull them all in. You would just have to pick one. Does the Windows Unattended CD Creator work the same way?

The integration of TEXTMODE and PnP drivers is done in a similar way. The difference is the method to enforce the installation of not or not correctly digitally signed mass storage controller drivers. If you are using the CD Creator, all files of the driver subfolder are copied and usable for Windows setup (as with nLite), but additionally you have the possibility to enhance the installation of a critical textmode driver by flag him as "bad" controller driver. After having done this, the "bad" controller driver is something like "privileged" during the later OS install.

Fernando, the Windows Unattended CD Creator funtionally only "embedded" the one TEXTMODE storage driver that I selected, and, based on what you've said, that is probably the intent. Even though the $OEM$ file shows all the drivers, it only picks up the one at install time. To verify, I re-did it selecting the other TEXTMODE driver, and, sure enough, the 2nd disk worked like a charm on my other machine, but wouldn't work on the original.

Are you aware of any simple program (besides nLite that's having problems in this area right now) that will TEXTMODE embed all of the storage drivers?

If not, I'm assuming the the CD Creator modifies the TXTSETUP.SIF - I can see the one driver. Can I add another line under [SCSI] for the other specific driver?

Thanks again

[Fernando 1]

PVU, on May 12 2006, 06:36 PM, said:

Fernando, the Windows Unattended CD Creator funtionally only "embedded" the one TEXTMODE storage driver that I selected, and, based on what you've said, that is probably the intent. Even though the $OEM$ file shows all the drivers, it only picks up the one at install time. To verify, I re-did it selecting the other TEXTMODE driver, and, sure enough, the 2nd disk worked like a charm on my other machine, but wouldn't work on the original.

Did you try to flag both TEXTMODE drivers as "bad" controller driver?
After the CD Creator has done its processing, but before you create the ISO image file, have a look into the WINNT.SIF of the CD Creator processing folder. You find a section which looks like this:

[OemInfFiles]
OemDriverFlags=1
OemDriverPathName="%SystemRoot%\OEMDIR"
OemInfName="DRIVER1.inf","DRIVER2.inf","DRIVER3.inf"

Within the last line you can see all INF files of the embedded OEMDIR drivers. If there is an INF file missing, you may try to add it, but precondition is, that
- all driver files (SYS, INF and DLL) have to be within the OEMDIR folder and
- the TEXTMODE drivers themselves have to be copied into the \i386 root.
The TXTSETUP.SIF entries are made by the CD Creator, when you have integrated them within the "driver integration" section.

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Are you aware of any simple program (besides nLite that's having problems in this area right now) that will TEXTMODE embed all of the storage drivers?

Maybe you find something here: http://www.msfn.org/...p?showforum=107

[LostGhost]

@PVU:
do you have the same floppy for both machines? or different floppies ?
Can you send the content of this floppy(floppies) to me?

I will test it with Creator.

[PVU]

Fernando and LG, this may not mean a thing, but until Fernando asked about flagging both TEXTMODE drivers, I was not aware that you could flag more than one. So, I just created a disk by flagging both Intel SATA drivers (in the Intel TXTSETUP.OEM: iaAHCI_ICH7R = "Intel® 82801GR/GH SATA AHCI Controller (Desktop ICH7R/DH)", and iaAHCI_ICH6R = "Intel® 82801FR SATA AHCI Controller (Desktop ICH6R)") which are both contained within the latest Intel Matrix Storage Manager, IATA55.EXE. I thought it was very much like nLite where you could only flag one. My mistake.

Fernando, one thing is that when I have used the CD Creator in the past, not only did I not realize that you could flag more than one TEXTMODE driver, I also didn’t realize that you could choose “bad” for more force-fitting of a stubborn driver. Unlike the nVRaid drivers, I don’t think that these Intel drivers require a “bad” selection, because they’ve worked. Since I have only chosen one in the past, it seems to have imbedded just one without issue. I’m at work right now. When I go home, I will try the new 2-driver selected disk on the other computer to see if there’s a problem. My guess is that there won’t be – I should have selected more than one. I’ll post my results no matter what.

As far as the CD Creator and PnP drivers are concerned, have you had any issues? nLite also seemed to have a tough time with my Intel NIC driver, so I’ve gotten a little skittish about trying to do too much. Your program installed the Intel chipset INF drivers without a problem. It also installed my ATI video drivers perfectly.

If all I had to do is select more than one driver, this is the $OEM$ driver install program I was asking about. It really is a nice program. I like the way it asked me to get rid of the useless folders in my (HFSLIP) Win2K installation.

Many thanks

[LostGhost]

@PVU
If I understood correctly, you integrated both drivers, Intel® 82801GR/GH SATA AHCI Controller (Desktop ICH7R/DH) and Intel® 82801FR SATA AHCI Controller (Desktop ICH6R).

Did you mark both drivers as "BAD" ? I think in your case one driver is enough!
Which files are in $OEM$\$$\OEMDIR on CD now ?

[nuhi]

What is this!?

Instead of contacting me when some driver doesn't work you promote some other tool on nLite forum.
What a nerve.

If someone is willing to test this Intel driver with upcoming nlite send me a PM.

[Fernando 1]

nuhi, on May 13 2006, 02:06 PM, said:

What is this!?
Instead of contacting me when some driver doesn't work you promote some other tool on nLite forum.
What a nerve.

I am not promoting some other tool on nLite forum, I am just helping an nLite forum member to solve his problems.
On the other hand you are right - this is not the best place to discuss details about another tool.

@ PVU:
If you want an further assistance with the use of the CD Creator, please post your problem within the Creator Board.

nuhi, on May 13 2006, 02:06 PM, said:

If someone is willing to test this Intel driver with upcoming nlite send me a PM.

@ PVU:
This is a good chance to get your problem solved within the next nLite version. I encourage you to accept Nuhi's invitation.

[nuhi]

nLite only enables for nvidia multiselection, I guess it should have it enabled for all, done for next.

[PVU]

nuhi, on May 13 2006, 02:18 PM, said:

nLite only enables for nvidia multiselection, I guess it should have it enabled for all, done for next.

nuhi, this (RC8i) must have done it, because on the initial install it picked up the Intel® 82801FR SATA AHCI Controller (Desktop ICH6R). I will load it on the Intel® 82801GR/GH SATA AHCI Controller (Desktop ICH7R/DH) machine when I go to work. I'm assuming it will work. If I run into a problem I'll let you know. But no news will be good news.

I don't need to do a full install right now, so I can't tell you about the Intel NIC drivers. But, if they had the same multi-selection issue, you should be in good shape there also. If it is still an issue, we'll see folks discuss it, I'm sure. I almost feel like formating this machine to see how it would all go - interested to see how the integration worked out for the NICs, and SigmaTel and SoundMAX audio drivers. For the Sigmatel drivers, I deleted the STHDA64.INF (64 bit files) before integration.

Many thanks for your work on this specific issue. It may not have made it easier to deal with the NVidia drivers, but it looks like it took care on the Intel storage drivers. You might be done with RC8.

[The Glimmerman]

@ Lou Jacob

Lou Jacob, on May 9 2006, 12:26 AM, said:

I have meticulously followed the instructions, ensured that no other devices are plugged into the PC (all other hard drives are disconnected except for the 2 WD SATA drives configured on the NVRAID controller.

I've read somewhere that XP cannot be installed on only a raidset.
I meant 2 drives configured as raid and no other drives (SATA/IDE) present.

Try the same setup but add one nonraid disk to the system.

Maybe that will work.

[Fernando 1]

The Glimmerman, on May 16 2006, 06:32 PM, said:

I've read somewhere that XP cannot be installed on only a raidset.
I meant 2 drives configured as raid and no other drives (SATA/IDE) present.
Try the same setup but add one nonraid disk to the system.
Maybe that will work.

I don't know where you have read this, but this is nonsense.
The truth is quite the contrary: You may get problems, when you have one or more hdd's outside the Raid array.
That is the reason why I suggest to unplug such non-Raid hdd during the Windows Setup.

CU
Fernando

[hkccc]

i have some problems with the slipstreamed WinXP

I used sataraid + extras in the driver 6.70 for the VOL WinXP w/SP2

When i used the slipstreamed CD to boot, i can see the installer copying the nVIDIA raid driver. However, when it comes to "Setup in starting Windows"(still in the text mode, before the "press F8 to agree" screen), a BSOD is shown


the contents is like this: (sorry, i cant remember the text exactly )

setup has detected some errors and prevented the damage

check your hard disk drives....
...
...

could you help me to figure out the problem?

I have tried the legacy and sataraid w/extra, they show the same BSOD

This post has been edited by hkccc: 18 May 2006 - 10:47 AM

[Fernando 1]

hkccc, on May 18 2006, 06:46 PM, said:

i have some problems with the slipstreamed WinXP
I used sataraid + extras in the driver 6.70 for the VOL WinXP w/SP2
When i used the slipstreamed CD to boot, i can see the installer copying the nVIDIA raid driver. However, when it comes to "Setup in starting Windows"(still in the text mode, before the "press F8 to agree" screen), a BSOD is shown
could you help me to figure out the problem?

With no informations about your system (mainboard and nForce chipset, nVRaid Bios version, numbers and sort of hdd's) I have no idea how I could help you.
Please betray some details about your computer.

CU
Fernando

[hkccc]

sorry~
here is my config:

Gigabyte K8NU-9 (NF4U)
A64 3000+
3GB DDRRam

7200.10 320GB * 2 (RAID1)
NVRAID BIOS is 4.84

WinXP VOL w/SP2 (from MSDN)
nForce 6.70

thanks~!

This post has been edited by hkccc: 18 May 2006 - 09:38 PM

[Fernando 1]

hkccc, on May 19 2006, 04:31 AM, said:

here is my config:
Gigabyte K8NU-9 (NF4U)
A64 3000+
3GB DDRRam
7200.10 320GB * 2 (RAID1)
NVRAID BIOS is 4.84
WinXP VOL w/SP2 (from MSDN)
nForce 6.70

Your config looks good. The integration of the nForce SataRaid drivers off the 6.70 package should work.
Preconditions: no hardware issues and a "healthy" Raid array.
Further questions:
a ) Has your Raid array been correctly detected as 1 device at the begin of the install?
b ) Did you low level format both hdd's before creating the array?
c ) Is the boot sector of your Raid shown as device C:?
d ) Have you tried the XP installation by using F6/floppy (without nLite)?
e ) Are you sure, that your memory sticks are ok (Tip: Retry the install with just 1 stick)?
f ) Did you unplug all unneeded devices (USB sticks, card reader etc.) during the install?

[Booti]

Hi there

Firstly i am sorry if i am being a complete noob here and all this has probably been asked and explained before, but i have been trying to get my head around these SATA drivers for ages and have now found this software (nlite), but i still cant get it to work.

I have read thru the opening post of this thread and about the first 10 pages of this, but i'm sorry to say none of it is making sense to me.

I have managed to do the simple bits like slipstream SP2 and hotfixes into XP, but i just do not understand what you mean about copying these files into the SATARAID and PATARAID folders. I cannot find this OEM folder that is being talked about and really am at a complete loss. Also all the driver files you point us to are for nForce 4 board and mine is only nForce 3 (using 5.11 drivers)

System is
Shuttle (SN95G5 v3) yes i read that that also seems to cause a few problems needing 2 drivers !!
BIOS version 6.00PG (dated 14/10/2005, but i cannot find what version of RAID BIOS i have)
AMD 3700+ socket 939
2Gb RAM (crucial)
74Gb Raptor drive (single, so not using RAID, just the SATA port)
no floppy

If anyone could help me (with a complete idiots guide) i would be SO grateful

Many Thanks in advance

P.S. could anyone link me to a thread that explains how to intergrate the rest of the nVidia chipset drivers and the Graphics as well?

This post has been edited by Booti: 19 May 2006 - 02:28 PM

[Fernando 1]

Booti, on May 19 2006, 10:26 PM, said:

System is
Shuttle (SN95G5 v3) yes i read that that also seems to cause a few problems needing 2 drivers !!
BIOS version 6.00PG (dated 14/10/2005, but i cannot find what version of RAID BIOS i have)
AMD 3700+ socket 939
2Gb RAM (crucial)
74Gb Raptor drive (single, so not using RAID, just the SATA port)
no floppy
If anyone could help me (with a complete idiots guide) i would be SO grateful

There is no cause for you to be irritated about this thread, because neither my guide (first post) nor all other posts of this thread are useful for you. Reason: You have a non-Raid system.
If you have read the first post of this thread, you must have seen this:

Attention: The following guide is only useful for users with an nForce Raid array!

If you have troubles with the integration of the nForce SATA drivers, don't do it. Windows XP can be installed without any third party IDE drivers onto a non-Raid system.

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P.S. could anyone link me to a thread that explains how to intergrate the rest of the nVidia chipset drivers and the Graphics as well?

Here is the guide you probably are searching for:
http://www.nliteos.c...uide/index.html

CU
Fernando

[Booti]

thanks for that

i have to say i am a little bit puzzled as when i had an ASUS AV8 board, even though i only had the one drive in it (in fact it was all the same internals that i have moved to my shuttle) it would not see the hard drive unless i did the F6 trick and loaded the RAID driver disk

I have just checked with XP disk and you are quite right that it does not need the boot disk to see the hard drive on my shuttle

Is this a glitch with VIA chipsets? (or is this the wrong place to ask this question )

[Fernando 1]

Booti, on May 19 2006, 11:53 PM, said:

Is this a glitch with VIA chipsets? (or is this the wrong place to ask this question )

That's really not the right place for this question, because I don't have any experience with VIA chipsets.

[piloteer]

Hi all. I thought it was too good to be true! I can't seem to get my floppy drive to work (tried a new one but it looks like it might be the actual port on my Asus A8N-sli and Windows needs to be installed). So I have no choice but to get this slipstream thing working!

I've managed to install windows and gte it to detect my RAID array but at the final stages of loading the files needed for the installation, it says it can't find any of the RAID drivers and proceeds to list them all giving the option of quitting, ignoring or retry. I try ignoring and when the installation is finished it reboots every time at the same point.

I've tried using 6.53 and 6.70 but I am confused over a few things. In the initial guide and a few posts after the PATA folder is mentioned, in particular copying the nvatabus.sys from this folder into the SATA folder. I don't have a PATA folder????? I only have RAID tool. legacy, sata_ide and sataraid.

There are lots of identical files in the SATA_ide and SATA raid, should I be replacing some with others? All I know is that I followed the beginning guide to the letter and it hasn't worked for me, and I don't relish the task of going through 40+ pages! Am I doing something wrong or is there another method I can try?