[Fernando 1]

Lord Davis, on Jun 30 2006, 05:49 AM, said:

just tried it using single driver and selecting sata_ide "nvata" and still the same thing happened.. it was pnp not textmode aswell(not that u get a option to change it)

It is not easy to help without any further informations:
Which is the name of your mainboard and what sort of nForce chipset are you using?
Which OS are you going to install?
Are you able to install the OS off the original (not nLited) CD without pressing F6?
Do you use a Maxtor Sata2 hard drive disk? If yes, have you updated the firmware or jumpered to Sata1?

This post has been edited by Fernando 1: 30 June 2006 - 03:05 AM

[ophois]

Okay I'm running out of ideas so here goes the desperate cry for help.

I have a windows XP MCE with sp2 DVD. I've nlited this to add the nvidia raid drivers (in text mode) from the legacy directory (Ive tried a couple of versions but most recently 6.85 as per page 1 of this thread), nothing else is integrated (no addons, other drivers, nothing at all).

When I install from my nice shiny new DVD the text mode install works fine, the system reboots, the GUI install phase starts and completes. The screen changes to a basic light blue (not the BSOD, more a desktop blue) and the mouse cursor is still visible. The system then freezes completelly (the mouse cursor will not move).

If I manually reboot the box it will pass all the usual BIOS stuff and then BSOD with error code 7b.

I've also tried this with the legacy raid drivers as well as the bus and ethernet drivers to the same outcome.

Any ideas as to what this might be would be appreciated.

My system is

Athlon 64 chip
1GB ram
1 * 120GB PATA disk (windows install is on a 60GB partition on this disk, other 60 is unassigned)
2* 300GB PATA disks (raid array, mirroring)
2* 300GB SATA disks (not in raid).

All disks are 7200rpm and the two raid PATA disks are of identical model.

I love storage me

This post has been edited by ophois: 01 July 2006 - 06:27 PM

[redfive19]

"(LEGACY or SATARAID depending on your driver choice and preparation) "

That's the part that confuses me. I followed your instructions to a T and I still get a blue screen asking me to chkdsk. I copied over all required files to the SATARAID folder. I don't quite know what I am doing wrong here.

Should I integrate both the LEGACY & SATARAID folders?

Thanks in advance

-redfive

[Fernando 1]

ophois, on Jul 2 2006, 02:26 AM, said:

I have a windows XP MCE with sp2 DVD. I've nlited this to add the nvidia raid drivers (in text mode) from the legacy directory (Ive tried a couple of versions but most recently 6.85 as per page 1 of this thread), nothing else is integrated (no addons, other drivers, nothing at all).
When I install from my nice shiny new DVD the text mode install works fine, the system reboots, the GUI install phase starts and completes. The screen changes to a basic light blue (not the BSOD, more a desktop blue) and the mouse cursor is still visible. The system then freezes completelly (the mouse cursor will not move).
If I manually reboot the box it will pass all the usual BIOS stuff and then BSOD with error code 7b.

I assume, that you have created a "healthy" and not bootable Raid array, that your Master Boot Record (MBR) is on your single 120 GB Pata disk and that this hdd is set as drive C:.
As you don't have a SataRaid, but a PataRaid system, you should do the following:
1. Look into your BIOS and set the "Hard Disk Boot Priority" to 1. your 120 GB PATA disk and 2. your RAID array.
2. Unplug the non-Raid Sata hdd before you begin with the installation.
3. Try to install XP MCE by using your nLited DVD.
If the installation fails, you should create a new nLited DVD with integrated PataRaid drivers (that means: integrate the LEGACY subfolder of the 6.85 driver package as TEXTMODE, but choose only the Raid Controller as device).

redfive19, on Jul 2 2006, 08:23 AM, said:

"(LEGACY or SATARAID depending on your driver choice and preparation) "
That's the part that confuses me. I followed your instructions to a T and I still get a blue screen asking me to chkdsk. I copied over all required files to the SATARAID folder. I don't quite know what I am doing wrong here.
Should I integrate both the LEGACY & SATARAID folders?

Please give me some details about your system (kind of motherboard and hdd's).
Never do a mixture of LEGACY and SATARAID subfolder!

[ophois]

Fernando 1, on Jul 2 2006, 09:16 AM, said:

I assume, that you have created a "healthy" and not bootable Raid array, that your Master Boot Record (MBR) is on your single 120 GB Pata disk and that this hdd is set as drive C:.
As you don't have a SataRaid, but a PataRaid system, you should do the following:
1. Look into your BIOS and set the "Hard Disk Boot Priority" to 1. your 120 GB PATA disk and 2. your RAID array.
2. Unplug the non-Raid Sata hdd before you begin with the installation.
3. Try to install XP MCE by using your nLited DVD.
If the installation fails, you should create a new nLited DVD with integrated PataRaid drivers (that means: integrate the LEGACY subfolder of the 6.85 driver package as TEXTMODE, but choose only the Raid Controller as device).

I'll double check the boot status of the PATA raid, though I'm sure its not set. As for the other steps I'll work through them today or tomorrow. Thanks for the reply, I'll post one way or the other once I've tried these.

[redfive19]

Motherboard: A8N-SLI Premium
Drivers used: Windows Vista Beta drivers
Methods:

1.) I moved the required files into the SATARAID folder (NVATABUS.INF, NVATA.CAT, NVIDE.NVU and NVCOI.DLL). I then integrated the SATARAID folder as TEXTMODE. Everything installed fine (as it usually does) but on first boot, I get a blue screen with the 7B error (and no I didn't press F6 during the setup!). The blue screen says to CHKDSK etc. I've gotten this blue screen everytime - even before I learned your method.

2.) I then tried it with moving the drivers into the SATARAID folder and integrating both the SATARAID folder *AND* the LEGACY folder. Same blue screen.

Should I integrate the LEGACY folder as PNP drivers? I am lost! THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!

-Redfive

[Fernando 1]

redfive19, on Jul 2 2006, 06:09 PM, said:

Should I integrate the LEGACY folder as PNP drivers?

Take the LEGACY folder (without any file copying) and integrate it as TEXTMODE!

Attention: This advice and my guide (post 1) is only good for users with a SataRaid system. That means, that you have to do something else, if you don't have a proper created and activated nForce RAID array!

[redfive19]

So don't even TOUCH the SATARAID folder?

[EDIT]
Okay I just integrated JUST the LEGACY folder and I still get the same blue screen on first boot. back to the drawing board...
[/EDIT]

This post has been edited by redfive19: 02 July 2006 - 12:35 PM

[LordWarlock]

Fernando 1, on Jul 2 2006, 06:01 PM, said:

Attention: This advice and my guide (post 1) is only good for users with a SataRaid system. That means, that you have to do something else, if you don't have a proper created and activated nForce RAID array!

Well, not true, I used the textmode method even though I don't have RAID, and everything is working flawlessly. Btw. those new "Vista" drivers got rid of the famous ID 51 bug (Detected error during paging operation) for me.

[ophois]

Fernando 1, on Jul 2 2006, 05:01 PM, said:

redfive19, on Jul 2 2006, 06:09 PM, said:

Should I integrate the LEGACY folder as PNP drivers?

Take the LEGACY folder (without any file copying) and integrate it as TEXTMODE!

Attention: This advice and my guide (post 1) is only good for users with a SataRaid system. That means, that you have to do something else, if you don't have a proper created and activated nForce RAID array!

Does that mean I can't use your guide to get my PATA raid working?

UPDATE: Hmm It doesn't apear I can create a non bootable raid array. As soon as I reboot after creating the array it seams to set itself to bootable, and the raid drive doesnt show up in my bios to let me select the boot device order. Maybe Ill try removing the 120PATA and use the 300PATARAID as m windows disks and see if that helps.

This post has been edited by ophois: 02 July 2006 - 01:38 PM

[_Vince]

Little did I realise that having an nvRaid setup would cause so many problems

I'm trying to create a custom nLite CD built from WinXP Corp SP2. After 2 days of endless burning and file juggling, I googled for "NVRAID NLITE BSOD" and was rather shocked to find how other people also encountered the exact same problems.

Anyway.... my setup:

ASUS A8N-Premium (Bios 1011)
NVIDIA RAID BIOS 4.84
Athlon X2-3800
2GB OCZ PC4000 Memory
2 x 250GB SATA Samsung Spinpoints (Raid0)

I tried to follow as much as I can from this thread, and I'm hitting the brink of giving up and dumb-founding my PC as non-nLite CD compatible.

I've tried integrating separately SATARAID and LEGACY folders from versions 5.10, 6.53, 6.85 and Vista Beta2 nForce4 drivers into nLite 1.0 (Final) (one folder of drivers per CD burn) and I keep hitting the same bsod wall over and over again on the 2nd reboot after installation completes.

What really confuses me tho, is what the heck you do with the SATARAID and LEGACY folders? The first post was really confusing. Could someone offer a complete n00bs step-by-step guide? (e.g. Copy X to X folder, rename X in X folder, integrate ???.INF as text-mode from X folder etc.)

I've been tearing my hair out for 4 days over this problem, including an all-nighter, and I'm going nuts

This post has been edited by _Vince: 02 July 2006 - 01:40 PM

[redfive19]

I am right there with you Vince. I have the same mobo and the same problems. The good news? From all I've read (and I did have this up and running before) the nVidia raid blows away the Sil3114 also onboard.

This post has been edited by redfive19: 02 July 2006 - 01:35 PM

[ophois]

To try and simplify things I've removed all but my 2 300GB PATA disks. I've got them in a bootable mirroring array. All other hard disks are disconected.

I've created an nlite install disk with the legacy, bus and ethernet drivers from nvidia along with the other drivers for my system (graphics, audio, mouse). In remove components I've set it to remove all drivers. The disk is set up for a full automated install (I've attached the ini file).

The text mode and GUI mode install seem to work fine and the system reboots automatically. I would be expecting it to boot in to windows and start the media centre customisations at this point however it simple goes to the dreaded BSOD with stop code 7b.

Anyone got any ideas? I'd give up on this and go back to non-raid but I really want to have all my important personal files on redundant storage and DVD is just too much of a pain to keep up to date.

Attached File(s)

•  Driver_Replacement.ini (6.45K)
  Number of downloads: 25

[Fernando 1]

redfive19, on Jul 2 2006, 07:42 PM, said:

So don't even TOUCH the SATARAID folder?

The LEGACY subfolder (if available) is the better solution for users with a SataRaid system, because it contains all needed files.
If you don't succeed with the LEGACY folder integration, you either have done something wrong or you have a hardware issue.

ophois, on Jul 2 2006, 09:30 PM, said:

Does that mean I can't use your guide to get my PATA raid working?

No, you can. The LEGACY subfolder is usable for SataRaid and PataRaid systems.

_Vince, on Jul 2 2006, 09:32 PM, said:

What really confuses me tho, is what the heck you do with the SATARAID and LEGACY folders? The first post was really confusing. Could someone offer a complete n00bs step-by-step guide? (e.g. Copy X to X folder, rename X in X folder, integrate ???.INF as text-mode from X folder etc.)

Exactly the troubles you have described were the reason why I have changed the text of my guide (first post of this thread).
If you think, that the present text is still confusing, remember the following: It is not easy to create a short, easy to understand and exact description of the integration of the nForce SataRaid drivers, because
1. there are many different nForce chipsets and hardware combinations and
2. NVIDIA has done nothing to make it easy for the users with an nForce SataRaid system.

[orangeshirtmafia]

OKay so here is the deal, I have now wasted 8 CD-r's on attemptiong this, and it just won't work for me! I have a DFI nforce4 sli-DR and I am using a pair of raptors in raid0 I am following these directions to a t and well... l,et me be mroe specific
I start with a clean install of windows (singlew drive)

I install a the nvidia 6.85 nforce driversm anbd the newest display drivers.

I install .net 2.0

I install nlite

I take my legti x sp2 RO disc and I copy its entire contents into an empty folder on the desktop

I start nlite and I select that folder I created with my xp in it, and I click next.

I select "integrate drivers" and " make bootable cd" and click next

on the ntegrate drivers folder I click "insert" and then "single driver"

I browse to this folder exactly "C:\NVIDIA\nForceWin2KXP\6.85\IDE\WinXP\legacy\" and I select the nvatabus.inf file

I ensure that the "textmode driver" is selected and that both of the options below are highlit (both of the nvidia required drivers are being integrated)

I click next and then yes to start the process, it seems to integrate everything and then it says FINISHED! and I click next

I create me bootable disc image, and I give it the volume name of XPPROSP2 (like my disc)

I open alcohol 120% and I brun the image to a new CD-r at 4x (to be sure)

I restart and let my computer boot from the floppy, with EVERYTHING unplugged, outside of the case I have the monitor, power, PS2 keyboard and PS2 mouse plugged in, and inside I have the cpu, ram, video card, two raptors in raid, and DVD burner plugged in, THATS IT!

I have my raid built perfectly fine, I have used it on this board before (before I lost the floppy I used and started this whole mess
So windows setup starts and detects my arrey, I make a partition on it, and format it, it installs the files, restarts into the next stage of setup and I enter all my information, it restarts again and this time displays the windows boot screen for about a half a second, I catch a slight glimpse of the BSOD, and it restarts. I've done this a DOZEN TIMES and tried a bunch oif different options, made 7 or 8 discs now, tried everything, different burning options, I even downloaded a pirated copy of XP and tried using the files from that, still produces the exact same problem. I am using the newest version of my bios from the dfi.com.tw site. WHAT AM I DOING WRONG AHHHH! this is SOOO beyond frustrating.
Going on day three I have been working on this.

Thanks in advanced for the help guys.

Oh by the way, I have tried a bunch of different versions for the raid drivers.

ugh I am going to bed.

[Fernando 1]

orangeshirtmafia, on Jul 3 2006, 12:06 PM, said:

OKay so here is the deal, I have now wasted 8 CD-r's on attemptiong this, and it just won't work for me! I have a DFI nforce4 sli-DR and I am using a pair of raptors in raid0

Hi,
I already have read about your problem on DFI-Street, where you posted, that you are searching for a driver floppy, that works, and that you don't want to slipstream the nForce SataRaid drivers. Now I can see, that you want to integrate the nForce SataRaid drivers into a bootable XP CD. As you had problems with all drivers and installation methods you tried, I suppose, that you don't have a driver, but a hardware problem.

My first advice is, that you should unplug all hdd's outside your Raptor Raid0 array, before you try to install Windows XP onto your Raid (notice: Within your signature at DFI-Street I saw, that you have additionally 2xMaxtor SATA hdd's).
Then I propose the following:
1. Download the 6.53 chipset driver package (you find the link within the first post of this thread), unzip it and copy the content of the IDE\WinXP folder - except the RAIDTOOL folder - onto an empty floppy disk. Now you will have an nForce SataRaid driver floppy, which works with all nForce4 Raid systems.
2. Take your original XP CD and try to install it by F6 using the floppy drivers you just have created. Take both proposed devices (RAID and SATA).

If the installation fails, you have a real hardware problem. Unless you don't solve it, you won't get XP installed onto your Raid system.

If the install succeeds, you have 2 options: You can either update the nForce SataRaid drivers and install the other nForce chipset drivers at once by running the setup of the 6.85 chipset driver package or create a bootable Windows XP CD with integrated 6.85 drivers by following my guide (see the first post oft this thread).

Please report here about the results of your work.

Good luck!
Fernando

[orangeshirtmafia]

Yes when I posted that I didn't want to slipstream anything because I had never gotten it to work right, but it seems that nlite has improved. Yes I do have two other hard drives, and I have taken them out to try this, the problem I am having is that not one time have I had the windows xp setup to read my floppies, no matter what! Here is what I have plugged in when I try the install

externally:
PS2 mouse
PS2 keyboard
one LCD
power

internally

ram
CPU
video card
dvd drive
two hard drives.

there is nothing wrong with my hardware, I have been running these two drives in raid for months now, I just decided to format and without changing one bios or raid controller option I put my xp disc in and started the process. when I turn off raid and my two hard drives show up I can install windows on either of them just fine, in fact I am running it off one of them now. But when I turn raid back on, and I try windows setup it will either

1. not read my floppy
2. install with your meathod but not work on first boot.

[orangeshirtmafia]

ugh

still nothing

goin on day four I believe.

I just want my computer to work

there is NO hardware problems

I have tried everything.

I don't know what to do

right now I am going to make 100% sure I have the newest bios, and then I am going to start over.

[orangeshirtmafia]

OH MY GOD SUCCESS!

It took four days of headaches (spread out, I wasn't sitting here 24/7) but It works!

the trick: I followed fernando's advice and made a floppy with the raid drivers from the 6.53 nvidia set, and somehow that was the only floppy I ever made that worked! and trust me I tried dozens of them. OKay so Richatard is a happy camper.

Maybe someday down the line I will attempt to create a slipstream disc with full unatended install, and that doesn't require a floppy, but for now my system works, and I am happy as hell.

GOODNIGHT!

and fernando... I want to have your babies.

[Fernando 1]

orangeshirtmafia, on Jul 4 2006, 09:30 AM, said:

OH MY GOD SUCCESS!
It took four days of headaches (spread out, I wasn't sitting here 24/7) but It works!
the trick: I followed fernando's advice and made a floppy with the raid drivers from the 6.53 nvidia set, and somehow that was the only floppy I ever made that worked! and trust me I tried dozens of them. OKay so Richatard is a happy camper.

Congratulations, that you got it!
Within DFI-Street forum I saw some more details about the possible reason of your problem:

'orangeshirtmafia' said:

Possible breakthrough: I just turned swapped connecter ends on the floppy cable, and reversed one side and noticed that windows still seams to work with it, hmm maybe windows worked both ways but windows setup needs the floppy to be setup perfectly!

So at least it probably was a hardware issue.

orangeshirtmafia, on Jul 4 2006, 09:30 AM, said:

GOODNIGHT!
and fernando... I want to have your babies.

I would do everything for you, but I won't do that! (Meat Loaf)