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Integration of NVIDIA's nForce RAID and AHCI drivers Guide and help for XP and W2k3 (32/64bit) Rate Topic: ***** 4 Votes

#951 User is offline   douirc 

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Posted 13 December 2006 - 12:28 PM

View Postdouirc, on Dec 13 2006, 07:36 AM, said:

View PostFernando 1, on Dec 13 2006, 06:39 AM, said:

View Postdouirc, on Dec 12 2006, 03:26 AM, said:

so first i did single driver and pointed to IDE\WinXP\legacy and chose nvatabus.inf, which nlite returned nForce Storage Controller (required) and RAID Class Driver (required). I chose only the first (nForce Storage Controller) in textmode driver and hit ok.
This was not correct. You should have taken both required Controller drivers.

well, i took both the first time and it failed. then i read above someone suggesting to take the nvatabus.inf from IDE\WinXP\legacy and take nvraid.inf from the IDE\WinXP\sataraid directory, which also failed. i've tried numerous combinations, all of which failed.

what's shocking to me is the method that worked without sp2 doesn't work with sp2. you would think it shouldn't matter, but somehow sp2 is throwing off my slipstream and crashing my installation. next i was going to try using an already slipstreamed sp2 disk and adding the raid drivers to that, instead of starting with a bare xp disk and adding sp2 followed by the drivers. maybe that will do the trick. i'm quickly running out of combinations, so any suggestions on how to do this to include sp2 using the method mentioned above that worked for me is greatly appreciated.


ok, i have to apologize. you were right! i recreated the disc last night, included sp2, pointed to IDE\WinXP\legacy using 'single driver' and grabbed both NVIDIA nForce Storage Controller and NVIDIA RAID Class Driver and it worked. Not sure what I did wrong last time, but now it's working. The catch is obviously not using the \sataraid directory at all, but just using the \legacy directory. if all you need is the legacy directory, what's the \sataraid directory for, anyway?


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Posted 20 December 2006 - 06:00 AM

View Postdouirc, on Dec 13 2006, 08:28 PM, said:

The catch is obviously not using the \sataraid directory at all, but just using the \legacy directory. if all you need is the legacy directory, what's the \sataraid directory for, anyway?
You will not get WHQL certified nForce SataRaid drivers by using the LEGACY subfolder drivers, but this is not really a big disadvantage unless you try to upgrade to Vista.

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Posted 22 December 2006 - 05:30 PM

Fernando, in nLite, I remove all the drivers supplied by Windows XP with NO exception (cause I have my own new drivers for every hardware). My question is, do you think Windows XP installation is gonna succeed if I integrate my downloaded nForce4 RAID drivers even though I removed all Microsoft supplied drivers?

To put the question in a plain manner, Does RAID need any driver supplied by Microsoft?

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Posted 26 December 2006 - 05:19 PM

View PostBelowSky, on Dec 23 2006, 12:30 AM, said:

To put the question in a plain manner, Does RAID need any driver supplied by Microsoft?
nForce SataRaid systems don't need any Microsoft driver. Nevertheless I would not recommend to delete the MS Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller drivers, if you are using any IDE devices (CD-ROM or DVD). Reason: Many users have reported about problems with NVIDIA's P-ATA drivers (nForce4 Parallel ATA Controller = IDE s/w) and obviously got better results with the fully compatible MS Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE drivers.

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Posted 26 December 2006 - 09:37 PM

Hey guys,
Sorry I haven't touched base here in a few days. This site is supposed to notify me when messages are posted but it only does so occasionally.

douirc, sounds like you're on your way to success! Sorry I wasn't here for you man. You shouldn't have any problems with USB as long as you have NOT disabled your parallel port (and possibly some of the others but I think it's mainly the P-port).

Merry Christmas to All!

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Posted 28 December 2006 - 06:33 PM

Ok I am having major problems with nLite right now. I integrated the drivers and installed flawlessly at college. Unfortunately I need to do a reinstall here at home and don't have the disc. I had the .ISO I made. So I burned it to a CD and attempted to install. I get the error that NVATA.SYS is missing. So I figured oh well, this probably just needs the driers re-integrated.

When trying to reintegrate drivers I now always get Access Denied to the "<REGISTRY PARAMETER>" of the driver that I am trying to integrate. This install is fast losing steam and functionality. Can someone please help me??

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Posted 29 December 2006 - 02:37 AM

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Ok I am having major problems with nLite right now. I integrated the drivers and installed flawlessly at college. Unfortunately I need to do a reinstall here at home and don't have the disc. I had the .ISO I made. So I burned it to a CD and attempted to install. I get the error that NVATA.SYS is missing. So I figured oh well, this probably just needs the driers re-integrated.
When trying to reintegrate drivers I now always get Access Denied to the "<REGISTRY PARAMETER>" of the driver that I am trying to integrate. This install is fast losing steam and functionality. Can someone please help me??
It was not a good idea to integrate drivers into an already nLited ISO file. Furthermore different nForce chipset RAID systems need different driver combinations. As you can see within the first post of this thread, it is not possible to create an "omnipotent" nLited CD usable for all nForce SataRaid systems.
You should create a new nLited CD using the original Windows XP source and integrate the special nForce SataRaid drivers I have recommended within the first post of this thread for your hardware configuration.

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Posted 29 December 2006 - 01:19 PM

View PostFernando 1, on Dec 29 2006, 04:37 AM, said:

View PostGamingphreek, on Dec 29 2006, 01:33 AM, said:

Ok I am having major problems with nLite right now. I integrated the drivers and installed flawlessly at college. Unfortunately I need to do a reinstall here at home and don't have the disc. I had the .ISO I made. So I burned it to a CD and attempted to install. I get the error that NVATA.SYS is missing. So I figured oh well, this probably just needs the driers re-integrated.
When trying to reintegrate drivers I now always get Access Denied to the "<REGISTRY PARAMETER>" of the driver that I am trying to integrate. This install is fast losing steam and functionality. Can someone please help me??
It was not a good idea to integrate drivers into an already nLited ISO file. Furthermore different nForce chipset RAID systems need different driver combinations. As you can see within the first post of this thread, it is not possible to create an "omnipotent" nLited CD usable for all nForce SataRaid systems.
You should create a new nLited CD using the original Windows XP source and integrate the special nForce SataRaid drivers I have recommended within the first post of this thread for your hardware configuration.


Crap, my original XP CD was damaged. I still have my CD-Key that I use, but I use a friends CD. I don't know if I can get a CD that isn't damaged....

Ill see if my Dad or one of my friends has a CD I can borrow. If not, is there any problem you know of by integrating the drviers into 2000 and then upgrading to XP?

My problem is that my disc got scratched on the file autofmt.exe which apparently performs the formatting of the HDD. So I have no way of formatting it other than installing 2000 first and then going to XP.

As for the drivers, I am aware that different chipsets require different drivers. I have an Nforce 4 Ultra Chipset. This worked last time I did it, but all of the sudden I am running into problems :(

-Kevin

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Posted 29 December 2006 - 04:48 PM

View PostGamingphreek, on Dec 29 2006, 08:19 PM, said:

Crap, my original XP CD was damaged. I still have my CD-Key that I use, but I use a friends CD. I don't know if I can get a CD that isn't damaged....
Ill see if my Dad or one of my friends has a CD I can borrow. If not, is there any problem you know of by integrating the drviers into 2000 and then upgrading to XP?
My problem is that my disc got scratched on the file autofmt.exe which apparently performs the formatting of the HDD. So I have no way of formatting it other than installing 2000 first and then going to XP.
I assume, that your nForce4 RAID array is correctly created and set as bootable.
In this case you will be able to find easier ways to get your RAID partitionated and formatted.
If neither a friend nor your father will let you create a customized nLited XP CD for you with their computer, you still have the possibility to get XP installed by F6/floppy method (provided that your pc has a floppy drive and you still have the RAID driver disk from the manufacturer of your mainboard).

A clean install of an OS is always better than an upgrade.

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  Posted 06 January 2007 - 09:39 AM

:hello: hello everybody!

i'm expecting my new Abit AN8 32 SLI motherboard (Si3132+nvraid) in a few days and i've been reading posts related to the unattend installation of the nforce4 SATA drivers - i dont own a floppy and i need to install the stuff on my SATA drive. apparently there are some serious problems with the SATA controllers (found out too late, wouldnt have ordered it but oh well :unsure: ). anyway i already have my viasraid set up and working on my winxp sp2 customized CD (for my old board that i'm still using) and i was wondering if anybody has the text files and folder structure for the nvraid. i prefer not to use any program to do the setup, i'm happier when i know exactly what and where to add rather than hope some utility will do the job correctly :w00t:

my current/future drive config: seagate 160GB sataII (3gbps) -- using a jumper now to slow down to 1.5gbps due to motherboard limitations, seagate 120Gb IDE, NEC 8xDVD, liteon 32x cd-writer, both IDE.

here's what i set up (will test in a few days when i get the board). i'm using the latest 6.86 nforce4 drivers from their site. :whistle:


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WINNT.SIF:

[Unattended]
OemPreinstall=Yes
OemPnPDriversPath="Drivers\SATA\VIASRAID;Drivers\SATA\SI3132;Drivers\SATA\sataraid;Drivers\SATA\sata_ide"
DriverSigningPolicy=Ignore
OemSkipEula=Yes
NoWaitAfterTextMode=1
NoWaitAfterGUIMode=1

[Data]
UnattendedInstall=Yes
MSDosInitiated=No
AutoPartition=0

[GuiUnattended]
OEMSkipWelcome = 1
OEMSkipRegional=1

[UserData]
ProductKey="***"
FullName="***"
OrgName=""

[Componets]
AutoUpdates=off
msmsgs=off
msnexplr=off
zonegames=off

[Networking]
InstallDefaultComponents=Yes

[Identification]
JoinWorkgroup=MSHOME

[Shell]
DefaultStartPanelOff = Yes
DefaultThemesOff = Yes

[URL]
Home_Page=http://www.google.com

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TXTSETUP.SIF:


[SourceDisksFiles]
viasraid.sys = 1,,,,,,3_,4,1
SI3132.sys = 1,,,,,,3_,4,1
nvatabus.sys = 1,,,,,,4,4,1,,,1,4
nvraid.sys = 1,,,,,,4,4,1,,,1,4


[HardwareIdsDatabase]
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3149 = "viasraid"

PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_31321095 = "SI3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_710A1462 = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_B0021458 = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_0CA9105B = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_3009148C = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_88881019 = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_819F1043 = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_09781019 = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_716A1462 = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_715A1462 = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_0CAB105B = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_0CAD105B = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_0C8F105B = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_0C8D105B = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_0C8B105B = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_0C89105B = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_0C87105B = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_81F0104D = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_722A1462 = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_02391154 = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_63001462 = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_63101462 = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_2C0B17F2 = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_00226409 = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_0D10105B = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_820E1043 = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_2A4A103C = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_31321A57 = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_31321A5F = "Si3132"
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_1000131F = "Si3132"

PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_008E = "nvatabus"
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_00D5 = "nvatabus"
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_00EE = "nvatabus"
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_00E3 = "nvatabus"
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0036 = "nvatabus"
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_003E = "nvatabus"
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0054 = "nvatabus"
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0055 = "nvatabus"
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0266 = "nvatabus"
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0267 = "nvatabus"
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_036F = "nvatabus"
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_037E = "nvatabus"
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_037F = "nvatabus"
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03F6 = "nvatabus"
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03F7 = "nvatabus"
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03E7 = "nvatabus"

GenNvRaidDisk = "nvraid"
*_NVRAIDBUS = "nvraid"
*NVRAIDBUS = "nvraid"


[SCSI.Load]
viasraid = viasraid.sys,4
SI3132 = SI3132.sys,4
nvatabus = nvatabus.sys,4
nvraid = nvraid.sys,4



[SCSI]
viasraid = "VIA Serial ATA RAID Controller(Windows XP)"
SI3132 = "Silicon Image SiI 3132 SATALink Controller for Windows XP/Server 2003"
nvatabus = "NVIDIA nForce Storage Controller (required)"
nvraid = "NVIDIA RAID CLASS DRIVER (required)"


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directories:
i copied the makecab compressed sy_ and uncompressed sys files into the 386 dir and the full drivers for sataraid, sata_ide and SI3132 into the drivers dir (along with the viasraid).
i know that this line SI3132.sys = 1,,,,,,3_,4,1 needs compressed drivers and this line nvatabus.sys = 1,,,,,,4,4,1,,,1,4 needs the uncomressed sys (from what i've read on these and other forums) so i'm curious if that's gonna work. i only tested the first format with compressed files up to now.

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as you see i basically used the same setup as my currently working viasraid sata driver. so now i'm wondering if i should change anything like use OemInfFiles for the driver installations or remove some stuff from OemPnPDriversPath or just leave it as it's now.


any suggestions? :blink: a copy of your (working) setup files and dir would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 01:39 PM

Forgive me if this has been covered, but I poured over all 48 pages and couldn't find it.

I'm going to be using the evga 680i SLI board. It comes with a floppy. Should I just copy that floppy to my laptop and work with nlite on those files? I tried downloading the drivers from the evga site and I run the exe file and then running setup to expand everything and it just doesn't run...brings up an nvdia screen and then that's it. So that's why I am wondering if I can just use the floppy.

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  Posted 06 January 2007 - 02:20 PM

boxer2007: generally, the floppy should contain the txtsetup.oem and you need to use that for the "text mode" driver and then only if you're installing a SATA drive or RAID array. (in windows it's the short seconds when you see the message "press F6 to install SCSI drivers" or smth like that.) if you have any other directories not containing a txtsetup.oem but rather "inf" files you have to use them in the "unattend" (graphical install) part. (or manually after windows has loaded.)
so the short answer is yes copy them and use them if you have SATA drives or hardware that does not work properly with the default windows drivers. :thumbup

but then again i'm also awaiting a reply on my setup for this strange nforce chipset which brakes some rules... :no:

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 03:54 PM

View PostWrongTurn, on Jan 6 2007, 04:39 PM, said:

i'm expecting my new Abit AN8 32 SLI motherboard (Si3132+nvraid) in a few days and i've been reading posts related to the unattend installation of the nforce4 SATA drivers - i dont own a floppy and i need to install the stuff on my SATA drive. apparently there are some serious problems with the SATA controllers (found out too late, wouldnt have ordered it but oh well :unsure: ). anyway i already have my viasraid set up and working on my winxp sp2 customized CD (for my old board that i'm still using) and i was wondering if anybody has the text files and folder structure for the nvraid. i prefer not to use any program to do the setup, i'm happier when i know exactly what and where to add rather than hope some utility will do the job correctly
As you don't want to integrate the mass storage device drivers by using nLite, you better should ask for help within this forum: http://www.msfn.org/...hp?showforum=88
By the way: You don't need to integrate any nForce S-ATA driver unless you have built an nForce RAID array.

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 06:42 PM

OK, I've never built a system before. While I'm overall quite knowledgeable, when it comes to building and all the intricacies of getting the board drivers on, I need my hand held a little.

Could someone either post or pm me (if you feel this request is too beneath being public, although I would think it might help many) explicit, step-by-step instructions on how to get everything going for an evga 680i? I'm not a stupid man:) But I still am having a hard time deciphering all the instructions that have been layed out in here.

Also, I know this is a little off topic, but what's the best way to flash a new BIOS for my mobo before I even do anything? I'm sure you evga people are aware that the 680 board shipped with some nasty BIOS that causes SATA errors and they have a new BIOS and every thread on the evga board is a mess....one posts contradicts the one before it and there's really no straight talk. I won't have a floppy, so I want to flash it from a USB and I'm assuming it's wise to do it before I do the nlite stuff, right?

Thanks in advance and I apologize in advance if this is a noob question, but I'm a noob at this, what can I say?:)

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  Posted 06 January 2007 - 09:36 PM

ups :whistle: sorry bout that Fernando 1! i guess you can remove my post with all the files that i quoted. i already read some of the stuff in that forum and it's hopefully helping! i'll ask them for more help if i need it.

thanks again :thumbup

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Posted 07 January 2007 - 03:36 AM

View Postboxer2007, on Jan 7 2007, 01:42 AM, said:

Could someone either post or pm me (if you feel this request is too beneath being public, although I would think it might help many) explicit, step-by-step instructions on how to get everything going for an evga 680i? I'm not a stupid man:) But I still am having a hard time deciphering all the instructions that have been layed out in here.
Within this thread you can expect only help regarding the integration of the nForce SataRaid drivers into a bootable CD. If you need special assistance in how to get everything going for an evga 680i, you should look here or google for "evga 680i".

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Also, I know this is a little off topic, but what's the best way to flash a new BIOS for my mobo before I even do anything? I'm sure you evga people are aware that the 680 board shipped with some nasty BIOS that causes SATA errors and they have a new BIOS and every thread on the evga board is a mess....one posts contradicts the one before it and there's really no straight talk. I won't have a floppy, so I want to flash it from a USB and I'm assuming it's wise to do it before I do the nlite stuff, right?
You are right - before you begin with the installation of any OS, you should update your mainboard BIOS. If you need instructions in how to flash a BIOS, you should look into your mainboard manual. Here is a sticky thread about your special question.

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Posted 07 January 2007 - 05:22 AM

View PostFernando 1, on Jan 7 2007, 03:36 AM, said:

View Postboxer2007, on Jan 7 2007, 01:42 AM, said:

Could someone either post or pm me (if you feel this request is too beneath being public, although I would think it might help many) explicit, step-by-step instructions on how to get everything going for an evga 680i? I'm not a stupid man:) But I still am having a hard time deciphering all the instructions that have been layed out in here.
Within this thread you can expect only help regarding the integration of the nForce SataRaid drivers into a bootable CD. If you need special assistance in how to get everything going for an evga 680i, you should look here or google for "evga 680i".

View Postboxer2007, on Jan 7 2007, 01:42 AM, said:

Also, I know this is a little off topic, but what's the best way to flash a new BIOS for my mobo before I even do anything? I'm sure you evga people are aware that the 680 board shipped with some nasty BIOS that causes SATA errors and they have a new BIOS and every thread on the evga board is a mess....one posts contradicts the one before it and there's really no straight talk. I won't have a floppy, so I want to flash it from a USB and I'm assuming it's wise to do it before I do the nlite stuff, right?
You are right - before you begin with the installation of any OS, you should update your mainboard BIOS. If you need instructions in how to flash a BIOS, you should look into your mainboard manual. Here is a sticky thread about your special question.

I wouldnt advise doing it from usb, as floppies dont load anything other than what is required for the floppy drive to work, usb does.

Best bet if you refuse to do it rom a floppy is to see if you can find a windows-based flash program for your bios (ami, award/phoenix, etc) and just flash from within windows.

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Posted 07 January 2007 - 10:27 AM

Help! any ideas with the following...bear with me... If anyone can help fernando 1 can...

new asus M3N32sli deluxe (590sli), new raid array (nvidia, but silicon image available on mb)
xp home edition upgrade cd installed on old hd

After ugrading my hardware I wanted to fresh install XP on new raid (nvidia) and then ditch old (slow) hd so I went for nlite and all was going well...
I updated bios, added latest nvidia chipset drivers and burnt the CD. Followed above instructions text mode for raid, pnp for ide etc
I couldn't unplug old hd during setup as XP CD is home edition upgrade (what a false economy in retrospect) so had to install on raid as a mulitboot setup.

Now I can't access either installation, despite recovery console fixboot, fixmbr (apparantly i have a non standard mbr (no matter how many times I fix it))and bootcfg /rebuild (incidently bootcfg /list now shows about 6 items, but i'll check microsoft for help on that). The system will not start without the nlite cd (error message= NTLDR missing), and when I do use the nlite CD it goes straight to windows setup...

Any ideas where to go with this?
My mb can do silicon image raid, so maybe i should ditch Nvidia raid - will this be free of probs/any disadvantages using this raid controller? Will I have to buy full win XP? Should I throw the whole thing out the window and do something more interesting?

Many thanks...

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Posted 07 January 2007 - 11:31 AM

View Postjimcarmichael26, on Jan 7 2007, 05:27 PM, said:

new asus M3N32sli deluxe (590sli), new raid array (nvidia, but silicon image available on mb)
xp home edition upgrade cd installed on old hd
After ugrading my hardware I wanted to fresh install XP on new raid (nvidia) and then ditch old (slow) hd so I went for nlite and all was going well...
I updated bios, added latest nvidia chipset drivers and burnt the CD. Followed above instructions text mode for raid, pnp for ide etc
I couldn't unplug old hd during setup as XP CD is home edition upgrade (what a false economy in retrospect) so had to install on raid as a mulitboot setup.
Now I can't access either installation, despite recovery console fixboot, fixmbr (apparantly i have a non standard mbr (no matter how many times I fix it))and bootcfg /rebuild (incidently bootcfg /list now shows about 6 items, but i'll check microsoft for help on that). The system will not start without the nlite cd (error message= NTLDR missing), and when I do use the nlite CD it goes straight to windows setup...
I assume, that you have 2 S-ATA hdd's set as nForce RAID and 1 non-RAID hdd.
First questions: Did you set your RAID array
  • as bootable within your RAID Creation Utility (F10) and
  • as first bootable hard disk device (this has nothing to do with the "normal" boot device order CD-ROM/hdd/floppy) within BIOS after having successfully created the NVIDIA RAID?
This is very important, otherwise your system will not find the correct boot sector (MBR), which should be at drive C: within your RAID device.
It was not a good idea to install the new OS onto your RAID without unplugging the non-RAID hdd. Now you probably have a mixture of MBR's on different drives. I don't understand your explanation for not being able to unplug the non-RAID hdd during the XP installation. When you have an XP Home CD as Upgrade version, you simply have to insert the upgradable OS CD into your CD drive, when you are asked for, and then you can continue your installation.

View Postjimcarmichael26, on Jan 7 2007, 05:27 PM, said:

Any ideas where to go with this?
Check, if you have set your RAID as bootable (by using the RAID utility) and as first bootable hard disk drive (open your mainboard BIOS and search for "Hard Disk Priority" or something like this).
If you managed both, unplug your non-RAID hdd and retry to install XP. Do a clean install of Windows XP by formatting drive C.
One more tip: If you have a running OS, I would recommend to prepare a second nLited XP CD without integrated SATA_IDE driver subfolder. It is possible, that your nForce SataRaid system only needs the integrated SATARAID driver subfolder. Use nLite 1.3 RC for creating this CD, this new version doesn't execute the SATA_IDE driver integration automaticly and lets you decide, if you wish it or not.

View Postjimcarmichael26, on Jan 7 2007, 05:27 PM, said:

My mb can do silicon image raid, so maybe i should ditch Nvidia raid - will this be free of probs/any disadvantages using this raid controller? Will I have to buy full win XP? Should I throw the whole thing out the window and do something more interesting?
Don't use any of these possibilities. You will get XP installed onto your new system. By the way: the nForce RAID is much better than the Sil RAID.

This post has been edited by Fernando 1: 07 January 2007 - 11:34 AM


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Posted 07 January 2007 - 11:53 AM

Thanks very much - now much more optimistic...

In answer to your quieries:
Yes, Raid set as bootable and first on boot sequence.
About xp home upgrade - I seem to remember that if I unplugged old hdd with xp installed on it and tried to boot on nlite CD the XP setup says it couldn't find prev install of XP and therefore won't proceed to install.

I'll try again and keep you posted

many thanks

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