[Heartofgold]

A friend of mine has a computer with Win XP Professional on it. He wanted me to get rid of it and put on Win 98SE. He does not want to go online with it. Just run older programs.

#1 How do I get rid of Win XP?
#2 How do I install Win 98 SE?

[trickytwista]

simply put a win98 startup floppy disc in and format te hard drive and the start with win98 cd...cheers

[dman]

Don't you already have a thread on this?
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=50776&hl=

Are the methods mentioned there not working?

This post has been edited by dman: 22 July 2005 - 05:19 PM

[Heartofgold]

I've tried that. It starts up and then choices come up. I click on start with CD Rom support. It shows the driver loading and then it stops and nothing after that. ?????

[Heartofgold]

dman, on Jul 22 2005, 07:19 PM, said:

Don't you already have a thread on this?
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=50776&hl=

Are the methods mentioned there not working?
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Your right, I was workin on another computer fro a friend, fixed it and then when back to this one. Nothing seems to work.

[dman]

you are booting from win98 floppy? sounds like the cd-rom driver is not working. What is the driver (displayed when it is trying to load) and what type of cd-rom is it? Have you tried deleting NTFS partition from xp setup cd boot?

[Heartofgold]

OK I got it workin, I needed to get a driver for the Cd rom to work. Thanks all for the help

[os2fan2]

To install windows 9x on a computer, you need a disk formatted in fat or fat32. The 98 fdisk should not be able to do that.

Try instead for a proggie like delpart.exe (free microsoft), or free fdisk. These will delete partitions of any type under DOS. Then partition, and format the drives under DOS (win9x boot diskette). You can then install win9x.

[Cartel]

load without cd support, but first make sure to clear the cmos, set to plug & play os, assign usb and vga irq on turn off turbro ram. after it boots with no cd support, run fdisk and delete non dos partion. then create pri dos, restart again and go without cd support again and format c:
Reboot and go with cd support and it should work...........then type setup

dont forget to do ide detect in bios

[dansouza]

You may run into a problem with drivers. The maunfacturers of new modern hardware are not writing drivers for older OS's anymore. I've run into several components where there were only drivers available for XP and 2000 Pro.

[Jlo555]

Yeah, I STRONGLY suggest that you make sure you have drivers that will work on windows 98 before you do this. It might get frustrating if you get the OS installed and find out you have no video driver and you're stuck in 16 colors, (or whatever it is.) If this was a store bought computer (HP, Compaq, Dell) then the chances are high that you could be out of luck finding drivers for the system. I know that when I built my system last year, it was hard to find hardware that was compatible with 98SE through XP, now its one year later and I'm sure it's even more difficult.

On another note, I must say that I really admire everyone who is still maintaining windows 98, fight the power!! It's getting harder and harder to find people who will say "Man XP is terrible, I'm re-installing 98SE immediately." If more people stick with windows 98 and don't switch over, hardware and software developers "will" (or at least should) continue to make hardware/software for the OS, so keep it up!

This post has been edited by Jlo555: 29 July 2005 - 11:15 PM

[Fredledingue]

IMO most of XP-only drivers will work very well on w98se but you can't be sure because they didn't test it on w98se. Of course since they don't develop it for this OS.

[Chozo4]

Fredledingue, on Aug 1 2005, 02:23 PM, said:

IMO most of XP-only drivers will work very well on w98se but you can't be sure because they didn't test it on w98se. Of course since they don't develop it for this OS.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

From what it seems, the overall structure of a windows XP driver's INF file is different from that for a windows 98\me system. Therefor it will likely not be processed correctly.

Had to redo an inf and driverfile set for getting my softmodem supported in windows 98. This Toshiba Satellite [A15-S157] Laptop of mine is only supported for use with Windows XP. Ended up getting a Win98 driver set from Lucent and meshing it with the XP drivers for my modem to get it working correctly. Ended up with a rewrite of the inf.

Jlo555, on Jul 29 2005, 11:07 PM, said:

Yeah, I STRONGLY suggest that you make sure you have drivers that will work on windows 98 before you do this.  It might get frustrating if you get the OS installed and find out you have no video driver and you're stuck in 16 colors, (or whatever it is.) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Best that can be done is track down the actual manufacturers of each piece of hardware to get the needed drivers. Then go to the manufacturers website directly. Intel seems to be very keen on providing 9x drivers for their chipsets so there is definately luck using intel hardware.

I've been through the *scouring the web for compatible drivers* spiel once before. It is not something to sneeze at while drinking a latte.

This post has been edited by Chozo4: 02 August 2005 - 01:59 AM

[RJARRRPCGP]

Cartel, on Jul 29 2005, 05:32 AM, said:

load without cd support, but first make sure to clear the cmos, set to plug & play os, assign usb and vga irq on  turn off turbro ram. after it boots with no cd support, run fdisk and delete non dos partion. then create pri dos, restart again and go without cd support again and format c:
Reboot and go with cd support and it should work...........then type            setup

dont forget to do ide detect in bios
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Actually, if the RAM is stable, you probably can leave the turbo setting on and disabling the assign IRQ for VGA option isn't a good idea, because video cards require an IRQ and thus doing that can cause the video card driver installation to fail.

This post has been edited by RJARRRPCGP: 17 August 2005 - 03:15 PM