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RyanVM's update pack and this forum's sticky topic Why the HUGE difference? Rate Topic: -----

#1 User is offline   senshi 

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  Posted 25 July 2005 - 06:57 PM

RyanVM - http://ryanvm.msfn.org/updatepack.html
Sticky hotfixes topic - http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=31886&st=0

Hello everyone.

I am having a hard time understanding why RyanVM's pack lists over 125 hotfixes while the sticky topic shows only 26 hotfixes? Isn't that a pretty significant difference?

I also noticed that the sticky topic has some hotfixes that RyanVM's pack is missing. And i'm not talking about the new june/july hotfixes, i'm talking about hotfixes from months ago.

So what's the deal with the difference and which one should I use? :unsure:


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Posted 25 July 2005 - 07:47 PM

I use RVM pack for my last build, having probs w/ nlite integration. I had all but this months witch i just added the exe file in my svcpack folder and added entries to svcpack.in_. yes i just run the inf file through compression bin and replace existing. Other then wu/wu6 wicrosoft sais i have no criticul hotfixes needed. So I don't think any thing is missing.
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Posted 25 July 2005 - 08:04 PM

Many of the ones I include are ones that have to be specifically requested from Microsoft. The sticky thread only lists the ones that appear on Windows Update with a fresh install of XP SP2.

Regarding ones in the sticky which aren't on my site, poke around a bit further ;). They're more than likely obsoleted by other ones which I do include. I list all obsoleted fixes on there.

#4 User is offline   Fascix 

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Posted 25 July 2005 - 08:26 PM

oki might be a bit of a n00b question for you RyanVM but
is there som kind of a list of ALL updates, hotfixes and service pack for ALL components for windows XP, all the windows updates ones and all the special ones? Or how do you know what you are looking for? how do you know that the fixes even exist.

I have the Swedish XP and it would be coolt to obtain all the hotfixes and files availeble and not just the ones showing up in Windows Update (or microsoft update if you so will)

offcourse i could check your list and download the Swedish version of it but i am curious from where you got it from.

Thanx

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Posted 25 July 2005 - 08:26 PM

Thank you RyanVM, for your reply and your excellent work :D

I guess your hotfix pack is the way to go :thumbup

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Posted 26 July 2005 - 05:38 AM

Fascix, on Jul 25 2005, 10:26 PM, said:

how do you know that the fixes even exist.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's a big thread over at my forums where people find them and share the link.

senshi, on Jul 25 2005, 10:26 PM, said:

Thank you RyanVM, for your reply and your excellent work :D

I guess your hotfix pack is the way to go :thumbup
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The next version is (hopefully) getting the finishing touches right now. Gonna make integration easier than ever :)

This post has been edited by RyanVM: 26 July 2005 - 05:40 AM


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Posted 26 July 2005 - 05:50 AM

awesome, time to donate again :)

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Posted 26 July 2005 - 02:16 PM

RyanVM, on Jul 26 2005, 05:38 AM, said:

The next version is (hopefully) getting the finishing touches right now. Gonna make integration easier than ever :)


I'd like to wait for your new version to be ready before I make my unattended cd. I was going to make it today but since you're saying it's getting its finishing touches, I think i'll wait for it. :)

Just a quick question, will it still work with nlite or will we just have to integrate it after nlite is done with everything else?

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Posted 26 July 2005 - 03:37 PM

nLite already supports the next version

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Posted 18 August 2005 - 02:27 AM

I've been fruitlessly searching this forum for hours for info on how to slipsteam the 1.2.2 update pack. The update pack is a .cab file but nLite needs an .exe, so how do I slip this thing? Obviously, I've never used RyanVM's packs before, so any clues would be appreciated.

And please don't tell me to look on RyanVM's forum. I already have and there's nothing useful there. Also, how do remove all the Extras and Regtweaks from 1.2.2lite ?

Update: OK i found my mistake in using nLite to slip the 1.2.2 pack. I was selecting the service pack button instead of the hotfix button. So that problem is solved. Oddly enough I found that answer on RyanVM's site after hours of searching. I still need to remove stuff from the update pack though. It's like 4am now so I should probably hold off for another day. I can't think straight now.

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Posted 18 August 2005 - 12:19 PM

SyntaxError, on Aug 18 2005, 04:27 AM, said:

I've been fruitlessly searching this forum for hours for info on how to slipsteam the 1.2.2 update pack. The update pack is a .cab file but nLite needs an .exe, so how do I slip this thing? Obviously, I've never used RyanVM's packs before, so any clues would be appreciated.

And please don't tell me to look on RyanVM's forum. I already have and there's nothing useful there. Also, how do remove all the Extras and Regtweaks from 1.2.2lite ?

Update: OK i found my mistake in using nLite to slip the 1.2.2 pack. I was selecting the service pack button instead of the hotfix button. So that problem is solved. Oddly enough I found that answer on RyanVM's site after hours of searching. I still need to remove stuff from the update pack though. It's like 4am now so I should probably hold off for another day. I can't think straight now.
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Ryan's 1.3.0 pack is coming out in a week or less and that will have its own gui integrator if you care to wait.
I have beta tested the pack and it is very nice. :D

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Posted 18 August 2005 - 12:34 PM

I have been searching all over and I can't figure out how to integrate the .net framework 1.1 I downloaded from Ryan's site. Right now I've sucessfully created a disc that's removed all the components I don't want, slipstreamed sp2 onto it, added sata, bus, network, and other drivers, and made it unattended. Getting .net onto it is the last piece of the puzzle if somebody could kindly point me to a guide :). I hate to ask such seemingly simple questions because I'm sure it's been answered but even when searching using this site's search and searching on google I can't find out how to do it.

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Posted 18 August 2005 - 02:37 PM

Ive not tried it yet, but downloaded it ready... I believe it has been configured with the necessary switches to silent install, so would you just install it as you would any other app/prog, it is an exe afterall???

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Posted 18 August 2005 - 06:53 PM

RyanVM's latest SunJava and .NET silent install packs don't work at all, whether installing them manually or putting them in an unattended setup. Both of them start out fine with the little window that says its "gathering required info" or something like that, and they both get about half way through that then they just sit there doing nothing. I waited nearly 10 minutes for them both to continue, but no such luck. Had to kill the tasks to get rid of them.

Unless you really want to save 5 megs, just use the original .exe from Sun and the silent switches built into it. Works great. As for .NET, I use RyanVM's last version that just has the SP1 integrated and then silently install the hotfix afterwards from RunOnceEx.cmd.

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Posted 23 August 2005 - 08:09 PM

Let me get this straight, first you can't manage to read the directions on my site. Then you can't get the programs on my site to work (nevermind that myself and thousands of others have) - any then you're going to say authoritatively that my stuff doesn't "work at all"? :rolleyes:

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Posted 23 August 2005 - 09:22 PM

I've tried both of the above mentioned packs on 3 different computers all running clean installs of XP Pro, plus I've tried them both in Virtual PC. Both packs failed to install in every case. Your previous packs work fine on those same 3 computers and Virtual PC, so it's got to be something wrong with those new packs.

And as far as not being able to figure out your 1.2.2 update pack, I had been up for well over 24 hours working on several computers so I wasn't exactly thinking or seeing clearly at the time.

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 03:37 AM

Don't know what ya doin dude, but I can tell ya Ive installed all of Ryans stuff on several machines with no issues at all. As the man said himself literally thousands of people have done the same & again no problems??
I know Ryan does not release these packs without thoroughly testing them first.

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Posted 25 August 2005 - 10:20 AM

I just want to thank you ryan for creating the most thorough yet simple addons and hotfix pack installation process I've ever seen. http://ryanvm.msfn.org/nlite.html

That has to be the easiest way to get the most recent updates and addons I've ever seen, with screenshots and all for noobs like myself to understand how to integrate them :)

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