[dman]

Big deal. The biggest thing on my wish list was CSS Position: Fixed; but no, they couldn't be bothered with that. Just have to try to keep up with FF buzzwords like "Tabbed Browsing". Guess we are chained to CSS hacks or framesets forever.
To see what I mean try this page with fixed side menu done with css position-fixed. I made it work in ie with a stupid hack, but this is what it does without the hack. Works fine in FF and Opera (k-meleon and netscape too) but not IE6, not IE7. Boo Hiss
Example

This is with the hack.

This post has been edited by dman: 29 July 2005 - 11:58 PM

[TheBlackMan]

So the difference is the blue in the background of the left pane...correct?

[dman]

The difference is the left side should stay fixed, and the right side scroll. try it in FF and IE, you see the diff.

[HybridShadow]

Its only beta 1 - and not feature complete so I expect that they will fix it

[kurt476]

i love those tabs in netscape you can either open a new tab or close that tab for what ever web page you have open

is so you don't need to open another internet explorer window

This post has been edited by kurt476: 30 July 2005 - 11:03 AM

[Alanoll]

kurt476, on Jul 30 2005, 12:02 PM, said:

i love those tabs in netscape you can either open a new tab or close that tab for what ever web page you have open

is so  you don't need to open another internet explorer window
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utterly pointless post in regards to this thread...

I believe Beta1 was primarily aimed at SECURITY and that enhancements to CSS and HTML amonst others will be made for Beta2.

[wizardofwindows]

i love tab browsers and i like ie7 . i know people will need time to get use to it probably resist the change because ie 6 and before all used the same basic design since win 95 but in closing the final should be good so long firefox bye bye opera .

[dman]

Alanoll, on Jul 30 2005, 01:16 PM, said:

I believe Beta1 was primarily aimed at SECURITY and that enhancements to CSS and HTML amonst others will be made for Beta2.
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Seems you are right again Alanoll.
http://dean.edwards..../compatibility/

I didn't find this before. Seems it's on the list along with my other wish, hover support for arbitrary elements. Sure hope it actually makes it into final release.

[boooggy]

so i will wait for beta 2 then.........

[xper]

Standards and CSS in Internet Explorer 7

[dman]

xper, on Jul 30 2005, 04:08 PM, said:

Standards and CSS in Internet Explorer 7
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Where People Go To Know !
Thx xper
That clears things up.

[atomizer]

i may be wrong, but i'll guess that one of the primary underlying reasons for IE7 is to compete with google and dissable google related stuff (current or future). the latter may or my not happen right of way, but see if some "security patch" down the road doesn't do it. poor lil billy is mad at google and i'm lovin it!

[Fredledingue]

So how many hundreds of Mb makes IE7? ...while you can get MAXTHON for free and on 1Mb...

[Alanoll]

Fredledingue, on Jul 30 2005, 04:53 PM, said:

So how many hundreds of Mb makes IE7? ...while you can get MAXTHON for free and on 1Mb...
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wait a minute....

you're comparing IE to a "browser" that USES IE's engine to render it's stuff?

[IRON FART]

Alanoll, on Jul 30 2005, 09:16 AM, said:

kurt476, on Jul 30 2005, 12:02 PM, said:

i love those tabs in netscape you can either open a new tab or close that tab for what ever web page you have open

is so  you don't need to open another internet explorer window
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utterly pointless post in regards to this thread...

I believe Beta1 was primarily aimed at SECURITY and that enhancements to CSS and HTML amonst others will be made for Beta2.
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Well I certainly hope that security WAS the focus, because from the looks of it, all they have done is added tabs and changed the layout a bit.

[atomizer]

Fredledingue=clueless

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[HybridShadow]

Well the phishing filter is definately a security feature
not all security changes a visible obviosely
i think IE7 will definatly bring back alot of people from dodgy firefox and nonfreeware opera

[atomizer]

matt5108, on Jul 30 2005, 11:03 PM, said:

i think IE7 will definatly bring back alot of people from dodgy firefox and nonfreeware opera
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hmmm... you could very well be right, but i doubt it. reason? many payware users seem to think their stuff is the best, period, regardless of its quality. Opera, though i've never used it, does seem to be an outstanding, feature rich and VERY fast browser (fast as in load time - i think they're all about the same in page load times). FF users, once accustomed to configuring their browser the way THEY want, seem to love it and are anxious to promote it. myself, i'd never go back[wards] to IE after having used FF. i have so much more control.

[HybridShadow]

Thats true

But there are some people that dont know all the extra settings in FF
And there are some people using the 'free' version of opera with ads

I used opera and it is an exellent browser i just would switch to it if it was free (ie no ads)

But i will never switch to firefox because of the fact that FF has failed to meet my requirements
Such as it didnt secure a https page and saved the credit card number and with its javascript flaw (which was supposedly fixed) on a test page showed that the card number could easily be retrieved by any page

I ran the same test In IE6 / IE7 and they never done it
Opera didnt do it either

Anyway i dont think IE7 is a disapointment, but to some people of course it will be
As for the fact of MS copying FF, people want and asked for those features and now they are doing it, so seriously its not worth complaining about - if its a disapointment to you, submit it to MS whats wrong or use another browser which most people do

Either way go MS bring on IE7

[dman]

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Anyway i dont think IE7 is a disapointment, but to some people of course it will be
As for the fact of MS copying FF, people want and asked for those features and now they are doing it, so seriously its not worth complaining about - if its a disapointment to you, submit it to MS whats wrong or use another browser which most people do.

This entirely misses the point of this thread. I care about browser only as far as how much extra work I have to do to code for it. I was disappointed when I thought that MS was leaving out key CSS standards in IE7. Thankfully I learned otherwise early in this thread. I could give a rat’s a** about tabs or even security on browsers other people use, as long as it renders my code correctly. I personally like k-meleon, but this thread isn’t about features or security it’s about CSS standards, or lack thereof. Anyone have any comments about that?