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#1 User is offline   kocoman 

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Posted 03 August 2005 - 10:35 PM

Is it possible to convert win98se "upgrade only" version to clean install version from dos? I think it will need some files added? Thanks


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Posted 03 August 2005 - 10:42 PM

been doing this all the time.

What you need is a copy of win31 or whatever it is upgraded from, and when the complience check complains about not finding windows, simply point it at the install directory.

It works much faster against a copy of w31 than w95.

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Posted 03 August 2005 - 11:21 PM

os2fan2, on Aug 3 2005, 11:42 PM, said:

been doing this all the time. 

What you need is a copy of win31 or whatever it is upgraded from, and when the complience check complains about not finding windows, simply point it at the install directory.

It works much faster against a copy of w31 than w95.
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Agreed, I've been doing this for quite awhile now myself;
Still, do you or anyone else here know of a way to specifiy
which directory to use in an unattended MSBATCH.INF install?

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Posted 04 August 2005 - 12:25 AM

The batch program actually allows you to specify that.

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Posted 04 August 2005 - 06:09 AM

I can't run setup from dos, it says "this is a windows program", even the readme on my cd says it cannot be installed from dos.. but thats what I want to do. Thanks

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Posted 04 August 2005 - 04:59 PM

I am not familiar with that version of upgrade. It must be some kind of Windows 95 only step-up thing (which requires Windows 95 to be installed first, and then upgrades it to windows 98).

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Posted 04 August 2005 - 08:13 PM

I have a windows millennium upgrade disc. I would like to fix it to where it would boot from the cd like a full version. Any ideas?

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Posted 05 August 2005 - 12:31 AM

os2fan2, on Aug 4 2005, 01:25 AM, said:

The batch program actually allows you to specify that.
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Where? I've used the program...I've yet to see this option!
I admit to having used the version that came with my Win98SE
disk, is there a different version which I should have used?

Please reply, I'd like to know how to do this! As it is now the
batch just times out into a 'Setup has examined the directories
and failed to find...." that allows me to manually specifiy but
defeats the whole purpose of having an unattended install!

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Posted 05 August 2005 - 12:38 AM

dirtwarrior, on Aug 4 2005, 09:13 PM, said:

I have a windows millennium upgrade disc. I would like to fix it to where it would boot from the cd like a full version. Any ideas?
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To do that you'd want to make a boot disk with a customized autoexec.bat
to start the setup.exe in dos mode...something like:

D:\winme\setup.exe

then (once you've verified that the boot disk finds your cdrom, the setup
files in the proper directories, ect) you'll want to make a disk image with
WinImage and choose it as the bootable disk when you reburn the files
in Nero or whatever burning program you use....

I'm sure someone else can specifiy a better way to find the cd-rom drive
than this tho' perhaps you can figure it out a way from reading sophorific's
code in the unattended update cd-install thread..?

-iWindoze

PS: This still doesn't address the bigger issue of how to specifiy where the
older OS files are so that setup will quit bugging us about them.

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Posted 05 August 2005 - 08:37 AM

kokoman,
Are you asking if you can do a clean install of win98se in DOS with an upgrade cd?
If so, Yes you can, w/o modification as long as you have a qualifying upgradeable OS.

BuMbles

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Posted 06 August 2005 - 04:27 PM

mr_bumbles, on Aug 5 2005, 08:37 AM, said:

kokoman,
Are you asking if you can do a clean install of win98se in DOS with an upgrade cd?
If so, Yes you can, w/o modification as long as you have a qualifying upgradeable OS.

BuMbles
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But I cannot even run setup.exe. it says it can't run in dos mode

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Posted 07 August 2005 - 05:45 PM

If setup.exe does not run under DOS, then you can't do a clean install. Setup.exe will indeed run under DOS, even on upgrade versions. At some point, it asks that it has no complying version of Windows, and for you to point to an install of it.

So, on my home-grown Win98 disk, i have a copy of Win311 for that purpose (as well as pulling some files out of it later on :) ). It runs really quickly then.

You have what is known as a 'step-up' version, which upgrades an existing system, typically Win98, to WinME. You need to first install the qualifying product, and then install WinME. The qualifying product (eg Win98), is then used as the base of the install and much of the configuration comes therefrom.

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