[evilvoice]

Wellll! Happy 1-year closer to death day...j/k Happy bday.

[rikgale]

Happy one-day-closer-to-retirement day(assuming the governmenet doesn't up retirement age)

Have a cracking time!!

P.S.

Here is a 7-zip installer for Seapagan files that are posted on the main page. This installer with not install a desktop icon and will make itself the defualt player, and it is in english only. When I work out how to disable taskes using batch script (disabling Bonjour) I shall update the installer, hope this is ok Seapagan?

LINK currentely not working due to errors will replace ASAP

[seapagan]

@evilvoice & rikgale:
Thanks . Not a bad nite, still capable of typing, lol.

@evilvoice:
I created earlier an english only version of Quicktime, got the msi down from 25 meg to 16. This also knocks about 20Mb out of the installed version. Problem is, as usual, since all the localized files are so similar to the normal ones they compress very well - so there is very little diference in sizes once compressed into a silent installer - I think it was about 15Mb final size after 7z. So, if you want this version let me know and I'll post it tomorrow.

@rikgale:
Thanks for doing the installer, no problems from me - I'll put a link in the main topic.
The code you are looking for to stop and disable the bonjour service on XP in a batch / script is :

sc stop "bonjour service"
sc config "bonjour service" start= disabled

Note the space before 'disabled' - that needs to be there.
This stops then disables the service. Dunno if that works on other os's, than XP though.
You can always stop a service using the 'NET' command on most os's but it will start again at boot:

net stop "bonjour service"

SP.

This post has been edited by seapagan: 09 September 2005 - 07:08 PM

[rikgale]

@seapagan

Glad to hear that you had a good night, although still being able to type shows that you did not imbibe enough alcohol based fluid.

Thanx for the batch code, saves me a lot of searching today. I'll see if I can get it to work now. Will post back later.

[rikgale]

@seapagan PROBLEMS!!!!

Yep there is a problem with the files that are posted in the first page, which consiquentley means that the install in the Rapidshare link doesn't work.

I'll explain. I tried a full test run this morning with the silent installer based on your 5.0 slimed rar files and spent ages trying to figure out why. After numerious unsuccessful attempts at rebuilding the installer, I was on the verge of giving up for a bit when I decided to not bother with the installer and just run iTunessetup on a clean VMWare install. I got this error.

 error.jpg (43.86K)
Number of downloads: 364

I uninstalled iTunes5.0 on my proper machine (which I installer using the full 32Mb installer) so I could test on a machine with the most upto date version of QT installed and I got the same error when I installed using the files from the RAR files in the 1st post!! Using the version that I trimed myself (the 12Mb on metioned in the other post) it worked. So somewhere in the work of slimming it down even more things have gone of the rails, any ideas?

EDIT: my other notice it that there is no Data1.cab in the original (32mb) installer?!?! So why is it asking for it now. Seems odd to say the least.

This post has been edited by rikgale: 10 September 2005 - 04:43 AM

[seapagan]

Hi rikgale.

There was a problem with the very first version that I posted here, which I fixed about 10 mins later. On that first version I had integrated all the cabs into 1 (called it Data1.cab) and packed that inside the msi, but forgot to change the pointer to look inside instead of out
I guess you must have been so keen and got the original version .
So, if you have orca, or any other editor that wont destroy the structure, load up the msi , look in the 'media' table, and change the entry for 'Cabinet' from 'Disk1.cab' to '#Disk1.cab'. That should fix it. Otherwise, download again from the first page.
Sorry for the trouble.

You are correct, I was very gentle with my alcohol intake last nite - guess I'm getting old .

SP.

[rikgale]

Must have been dead keen, I'll redownload and try again!!! Will post back my results.

Quote

You are correct, I was very gentle with my alcohol intake last nite - guess I'm getting old .

Dare I ask how old?

[seapagan]

You can ask
Ok, just 35. But, after 16 years working on ships sailing all over the world, I look and feel a lot older, lol.
I had a hard paper round too

SP

[rikgale]

Ok so you have a few years on me (about 12)

I've up'ed a new silent iTunes installer to Rapidshare. This one still has the bonjour service up and running. It can be got here.

I am testing an installer that will automatically disable the Bonjour service once iTunes has been installed. I'll post it up when I proved that it works

[evilvoice]

that would be great seapagan...i havent had a chance to look at orca...the one time i did before it looked like a lot to handle...but hey, its still smaller :-) plus I have some methods for getting it smaller (i think, would like to try).

SIDE NOTE: Wouldnt it be possible to have Bonjour set to disabled in the msi? I dont think there is another method for adding a service, so somewhere should be where itunes sets bonjour to auto...maybe not diabled, but at least manual or something.

This post has been edited by evilvoice: 10 September 2005 - 06:08 AM

[seapagan]

@rikgale:
Thanks for that, and sorry for the inconvenience. I'll wait to put the link on the main page, to see if you get the bonjour-stop script working.

@evilvoice:
i'll upload the QT-English-only version now then, no probs. Regarding the bonjour service, there is nowhere I can find in the msi that registers the service. I suspect that it is done by a custom action that calls one of their custom dll's, or is done by the compiled installshield script. This new version breaks the inx decompiler that I used to use, so cant edit that . I posted the code above to disable it in a batch though, so once rikgale has put that into a silent installer it will do the job.

SP

[rikgale]

@seapagan

So you gonna post link to both of the files on the main page?
My first test failed, but I am testing again atm, forgot to tell XCOPY if it was mention to be copying a file or a directory and because I am using cmdnow I never noticed, so spent trying to figure out why the install had stopped. It turned out that in a window that was hidden it was asking me a question that I could not answer. Should know if it worked in about 15 mins

[evilvoice]

I found bonjour and gearsecurity services in winstallle...gonna see if I can perfrom a basic edit and the msi still work. In winstallle its under services and both are set to autostart...if it does work, ill send the msi to someone to host...putting it to theonly other option sets it to manual

EDIT: ok, that worked. so if anyone wants it, I can 7zip and send.

This post has been edited by evilvoice: 10 September 2005 - 06:36 AM

[seapagan]

@evilvoice:
You are very correct! In the raw msi, it is in the 'ServiceInstall' table - dont know how I could have missed that, doh! I think I can modify that to make it disabled, hunting google now. Thanks for the heads-up . Some people may need this service, so will keep the original installed, but probably post a transform to change it. Need to test for a while in a VM first. Did you modify my version, or the original?

@rikgale:
yeah, I can post both the iTunes and QT localized files on the main page.

Edit : QT7 (English Only) link put on main page

SP

This post has been edited by seapagan: 10 September 2005 - 06:46 AM

[evilvoice]

i changed yours...since im gonna be using your msi...winstallle has an option to copy package, so i do that so that I have one edited version and one unedited (yours).

EDIT: Got QT7 (your version) down to 8.91MB

This post has been edited by evilvoice: 10 September 2005 - 06:55 AM

[seapagan]

@evilvoice:
gak! How you do that! Nice work

I have also worked out how to set the service to install as disabled, not manual, will post a transform file for the installer.
If you want to change yours, if WinstallLE offers a table editing facility :

In the 'ServiceInstall' table, for the 'Bonjour Service' set start to '4'
in the 'ServiceControl' table, for the 'Bonjour Service' set Event to '162'

good work!

SP.

[evilvoice]

I extract the files from the msi then 7zip it up...cant be done with itunes...but QT allows it...winstallle has an option to expand the package, and i end up with a program files and system32 dir and a 3mb msi...take that and package it with the excess files and you can get it down to 8.91mb...i dunno why but you can achieve a smaller size with an extracted msi.

[seapagan]

@evilvoice:
Good going. That is probably because 7z cannot really compress another compressed file (ie the internal cab). When you extract the files, it can then properly compress them. I tried this with iTunes too, and got the same problems you had, so didn't bother for QT. Guess I was wrong! lol. If you want to post that on rapidshare or whereever, I'll change the link on the first page.
Thanks!

SP

[evilvoice]

i gotta goto bed...but will post as soon as I wake up

[seapagan]

@evilvoice:
OK, sleep well and thanks for the help.

@all:
I have posted a transform on the main page that will stop the 'Bonjour' service starting. Instructions for use are there also.

@rikgale:
You gonna put that in your silent version? - Be neater than a batch.

SP