[rikgale]

I'll stick an installer up as soon as I get a chance and I'll look at the uninstalling thing over the w/e Glad to see that you are still alive.

[jeffc4442]

Hey guys. glad everyone is okay and not too wind blown or water logged.

I've downloaded seapagans newest itunes 6.0.1.3 as a .7z file. I have zip genius to unpack it. However, i don't know how to run the install program.

finally, do i need to uninstall my itunes 6.0.0.18 before i install 6.0.1.3?

thanks!

[rikgale]

@jeffc4442 - I've installed over older versions in the past so it should not be an issue. Will also try and get silent installers out ASAP.

rik

[RyanVM]

Thanks for the great work guys! I can stand putting iTunes on my computer now

[rikgale]

The latest silent installer.

iTunes 6.0.1.3

Please note that this is untested, but should work. The last one worked ok. Please make sure that you have cmdow.exe in your system32 folder.

[seapagan]

Thanks Rik, I've put the link to your silent installer on the main post. Also added 1 mirror on megaupload, for those who have problems using rapidshare.

@jeffc4442:
As rikgale said, you can usually install a new version of iTunes directly over the top of the previous version. However, if you are installing my modified version over a full standard install, I would uninstall the previous version first, especially if the older version is not the english language version - otherwise you could end up with some localized files remaining of a wrong version. The installer is supposed to remove previous versions, but since I have edited the msi, old files will probably be overlooked.
For installing, either use rik's silent version, or run the 'itunesSetup.exe' after extracting the 7z files.

SP

[Jondar]

With Apple finally opening up a local (Australian) iTunes music store I thought I'd give iTunes another go (I had used it before, but didn't like it).

I'd just like to post on my observations and experiences.

I downloaded the slimmed down 6.0.1.3 installer, with the intention of using it with QT-alt. That went OK, until I discovered that apparently I didn't have the most current version of QT-alt. I go to their site, and on the front page it mentions to uninstall QT-alt before installing iTunes. I do that anyway.

So, I have no QuickTime, no iTunes yet... with me so far? :-)

I run the iTunes setup from seapagan's archive. iTunes installs OK, but suddenly I get a message in the installer that it's installing QuickTime! I have no idea how that's happening, as there's no QuickTime installer in the directory. Apart from that weirdness, iTunes installs OK.

I uninstall the bulky QuickTime through Control Panel, and then try a test run of iTunes -- as expected, iTunes complains about no QT. I then install the latest K-Lite pack (which includes QT-alt). iTunes is happy again, since it can find QT.

So, overall, I'm happy. :-) Thanks seapagan!

Through my trial? I've discovered the best way to do this if you don't want bulky QT. 1) Install K-Lite Mega Codec Pack 1.39+ or QT-alt 1.64+ 2) Install seapagan's slimmed down iTunes 6.0.1.3

I would like to speculate though on that mysterious installing of QT... I'm wondering that if the iTunes setup (without QT) is run on a computer with an active net connection (I have ADSL), it downloads it and installs automatically?

-- Jondar

[RyanVM]

When using the 7z installer, I'm getting this error:



Any ideas?

[rikgale]

@RyanVM, can I just clarify that you are using Seapagan's 7z files and not my silent installer?

My only suggestion at this point is to check that you have the most up-to-date version of QT or QTAlt installed before running the installer.

[RyanVM]

Something with Windows Installer is screwed up. I'm getting the same error even with the official Apple download.

[ironside]

RyanVM, on Nov 6 2005, 02:31 PM, said:

When using the 7z installer, I'm getting this error:




Any ideas?

Yep, try running the setip exe instead of the msi file

[RyanVM]

...it won't let you run the MSI file

[ironside]

run "iTunesSetup.exe" cos running the "iTunes.msi" does not work correctly .

[rikgale]

Try the silent installer if you've not already tried it. It might make a difference, but I can't see how as it is based on the 7z files, pretty much completly.

[RyanVM]

OK, two people have now said to run the exe instead of the MSI file directly. Umm, duh . The error message in the screenshot has nothing to do with that, like I already said. It's an entirely different error if you try to run the MSI.

@rikgale - I doubt it'll work since the regular Apple installer is also erroring out. I think it got fubared because I upgraded to 6.0 with the installer from here over the Apple-downloaded 5.0.

[seapagan]

Sorry for getting in to this late, my new net connection wasn't working when I got home so had to wait until monday morning (yeah, big companies dont need 24 hr support, pah!)

Ryan, maybe it is as you say, installing the cut-down v6 over a full version of v5, I have not tried that. The only other thought is permissions - some programs / setups dont like to run from the desktop. I guess by now you have tried uninstalling 5, rebooting, then installing 6? I tried installing this version (it is the original apple msi, simply with bits removed) on a few computers before posting with no probs, several different flavours of v6.
Hrm, one other thought - what is the language of your windows? I have never tried my english-only version on a non-english XP installation - maybe there is some transparent code in the installer that will have a fit if it cant find the correct language files?

@jondar:
I tested the installer at work on an always-on connection, internet over ethernet and it never tried to download the qt installer - however, that may be due to firewall and proxy settings at work. Installing the latest qt-alt and then running my installer worked every time though.

SP

[RyanVM]

Yeah, I'm en-us. Whatever, I guess this is just the motivation I need to try out one of those alternative programs for working with the iPod

[seapagan]

RyanVM, on Nov 7 2005, 11:35 PM, said:

Yeah, I'm en-us. Whatever, I guess this is just the motivation I need to try out one of those alternative programs for working with the iPod

Yeah, I been toying with that idea too, since the only use itunes has on my pc is to update the ipod, I dont need all the other crap. Would like to find out what is causing that error though

SP

[rikgale]

Heck! I must be one of only a few ppl who actually use iTunes as a player. I suppose with the sytem I'm running I don't notice the bloat that is iTunes when it is running. My g/f has a noticeable drop in performance when she starts up iTunes, poor lass. Although on a PII-400 whenever she runs anything there is a noticeable drop in perfomance.

What other programs are there out there to update IPod, I've only really bothered with prgrams that allow you to copy from the IPod

[Jondar]

seapagan, on Nov 7 2005, 04:33 PM, said:

I tested the installer at work on an always-on connection, internet over ethernet and it never tried to download the qt installer - however, that may be due to firewall and proxy settings at work. Installing the latest qt-alt and then running my installer worked every time though.

I discovered the answer to this about a day after I originally posted. It turns out that I still had the original Installshield(?) cache of files from the Apple installer (which included QT). I uninstalled iTunes again, deleted the cache from Downloaded Program Files, and ran your installer after installing QT-alt = no problems.

Thanks again!

rikgale, on Nov 8 2005, 01:27 PM, said:

What other programs are there out there to update IPod, I've only really bothered with prgrams that allow you to copy from the IPod

I don't personally own an iPod -- I only use iTunes mainly for the music store, and the occasional playing.

I do have a Creative Nomad, and there's a company Red Chair Software that makes a (pay-for) alternative to Creative's own PC <--> Nomad software, which they call "Notmad".

They also seem to make a version for iPods, called Anapod which might be what you're after rikgale. It may not be free, and I haven't used it, but if it's anything like Notmad, (which I have bought one day after buying my Nomad and ditching Creative's own software) it's well worth the money, IMVHO.

-- Jondar

This post has been edited by Jondar: 10 November 2005 - 04:20 AM