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#91 User is offline   jeffc4442 

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Posted 03 October 2005 - 07:55 PM

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 12:56 PM

Shocking...another question:

Since i'm now using Firefox, do i still need to have a million spyware and ad blockers running in the background on my machine?

I currently have AVG antivirus and firewall, spybot search & destroy, cwsshredder, super adblocker, adaware se plus, microsoft antispyware, and spyware blaster.

Just wondering.

thanks!

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 01:01 PM

Possibly not the best place to ask this question, a new topic would have been more appropriate, but.....

... you could probably get away with dropping super adblocker and spyware blaster. AV and Firewall are must keeps and keeping the 'big three' - S&D, Ad-Aware and MSAnitSpyware is probably a good idea. No idea what cwsshredder is.

If you would like to continue this line of disscussion further pls feel free to PM me, and lets keep this topic on topic ;)

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Posted 05 October 2005 - 10:27 AM

But if I don't have a Quicktime installed my iTunes won't start. It always tells me to install QT 7 or later. How can I tell him that QT 7 is installed?

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Posted 05 October 2005 - 11:05 AM

Menedas, on Oct 5 2005, 05:27 PM, said:

But if I don't have a Quicktime installed my iTunes won't start. It always tells me to install QT 7 or later. How can I tell him that QT 7 is installed?
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You must have either Quicktime 7, or the Quicktime Alternative installed on your computer before trying to run iTunes - it will not work without one of them.
My iTunes pack without quicktime is simply to allow people the choice of using the official QT or the alternative, as well as being only an english version.

SP

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Posted 05 October 2005 - 11:09 AM

I want to use Quicktime 6.5.2 because the encoded aac files with Quicktime 7 are much more larger (1-5 MB per album). Too large for me. But I also want to use VBR which QT 6.5.2 is also able to encode.

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Posted 05 October 2005 - 11:17 AM

Menedas, on Oct 5 2005, 06:09 PM, said:

I want to use Quicktime 6.5.2 because the encoded aac files with Quicktime 7 are much more larger (1-5 MB per album). Too large for me. But I also want to use VBR which QT 6.5.2 is also able to encode.
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Unfortunately, if I remember correctly, iTunes 5 requires you to use QT 7 (or the latest alternative, which is the same codecs). If you want to keep using a lesser version, maybe the only solution is to use iTunes 4.9, see my topic here if you want to download that version. The version there is QT-free, so you can still use the 6.5.2 you have installed.
An other idea is to check the quality (bitrate) settings on iTunes encoding options, and choose a lower bitrate to get smaller files.

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Posted 05 October 2005 - 11:37 AM

seapagan, on Oct 5 2005, 06:17 PM, said:

If you want to keep using a lesser version, maybe the only solution is to use iTunes 4.9, see my topic here if you want to download that version. The version there is QT-free, so you can still use the 6.5.2 you have installed.
Isn't a solution because no VBR function in iTunes 4.9.

seapagan, on Oct 5 2005, 06:17 PM, said:

An other idea is to check the quality (bitrate) settings on iTunes encoding options, and choose a lower bitrate to get smaller files.
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No solution because I can't tolerate a lower quality.

But thank you for your fast answers. I will probably go back to my old 4.6 and use iTunes 5 on a vmware system to encode with VBR for my extra high quality archive music files with 256kbps. Can't see any advantage to 4.9. And I don't like the Podcasts in my list.

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Posted 05 October 2005 - 12:47 PM

I was dubios (sp??) about podcasts at first and sort of ignored them for ages, but over the last few weeks I've been listening to them more and more. I currentely subscribe to 7 and listen to them in the car on the way to work. Gotta do something with an hour a day... currentley learning Quantum Chemistry

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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:49 PM

Yes, but I don't have the time for it. :(

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Posted 05 October 2005 - 02:24 PM

The podcasts can be disabled, and the links removed from iTunes, just using the options pages.
Personally I havn't used them either, but maybe one day. It only takes me 2 minutes to walk down the stairs, pick up a coffee and be at work so I dont think I'll be able to justify downloading podcasts for that rikgale :P

@Menedas:
You seem to have very specific requirements (and obviously sensitive ears - I cant tell the difference between media _properly_ encoded at 192 and that at 256 personally), so go with what does it for you. There are better converters / cd rippers around than iTunes I am sure though.

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Posted 05 October 2005 - 02:41 PM

seapagan, on Oct 5 2005, 09:24 PM, said:

The podcasts can be disabled, and the links removed from iTunes, just using the options pages.
I have really searched for this option but can't found it. Where is it?

seapagan, on Oct 5 2005, 09:24 PM, said:

@Menedas:
You seem to have very specific requirements (and obviously sensitive ears - I cant tell the difference between media _properly_ encoded at 192 and that at 256 personally), so go with what does it for you. There are better converters / cd rippers around than iTunes I am sure though.
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No, the 256k VBR version is only for my archiv. These files are only for recompression, if I need the music in an other format like mp3. I'm using 128k for my iPod and normal listening. And the small space on my iPod is the reason to save as much as possible. I hope the next iPod gen will have a 80gig version.

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Posted 05 October 2005 - 08:22 PM

Actually, in 4.9 you can disable the downloads of podcasts (set it to manual, but not remove the link. iTunes 5 allows you to totally disable them, removing the link, by the use of the parental control functions.
Ver 5 (5.01 certainly) also allows AAC to be recorded in vbr. I tend to use mp3 for all my tunes, so have not experimented with aac too much, and was not aware the size of media had increased with QT7. Infact, the only reason QT is on my machine is to alllow iTunes to run - dont use it for anything else.

I need a bigger iPod too - 40Gb is just not enough :no:

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Posted 12 October 2005 - 01:11 PM

Hey seapagan, how's the northsea?

iTunes 6.0 is out, care to do your thing?

Two majo version releases in just over 2 months!! Somethings going on at Apple

Hope ur well

Rik

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Posted 12 October 2005 - 01:16 PM

View Postrikgale, on Oct 12 2005, 07:11 PM, said:

Hey seapagan, how's the northsea?

iTunes 6.0 is out, care to do your thing?

Two majo version releases in just over 2 months!! Somethings going on at Apple

Hope ur well

Rik

They're just doing this to annoy me! :lol:
I'll download and take a look. Not much else to do here since the weather is so bad we are just bouncing around trying to stop everything hitting the deck....
Otherwise, I'm OK, thanks :) Yourself?

Edit : 34Mb, well, not too much bigger than the last one! Lets see what size it really needs to be! ;)

SP

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Posted 12 October 2005 - 01:59 PM

thanks SEAPAGAN

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Posted 12 October 2005 - 03:16 PM

View PostMCSE, on Oct 12 2005, 08:59 PM, said:

thanks SEAPAGAN
Wait until I've done it first, but you're welcome :lol:

One thing worth noting is that this requires QT ver 7.0.3 - I'll check to see if QT Alt supports this. Got it down to roughly the same size as I had ver 5.01, still got to track down the annoying attempt to install QT and it's done.

I'll probably get it finished in a few hours when I get off shift. May throw in a localized ver of QT 7.03 a bit later as a bonus for those who dont like QT-alt :D

Edit : Seems that QT-Alt 1.62 (the latest I can find) only has QT 7.0.2 :(. Guess we have to use the official version until the Alt gets updated.

SP

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Posted 12 October 2005 - 03:21 PM

I'll try and knock out a silent installer if I can find 5 mins 2morw evening, if the files are done by then. Apple/iTunes seem to be stay one step ahead of K-lite mega codec, with regards to the QT alt codec.

I did just notice that a video ipod has been released, so that might explain the v6. Enjoy your shift.

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Posted 12 October 2005 - 03:50 PM

Which video formats is the new iPod able to play? I'm afraid that it isn't very probable that he can play xvid or divx. And again no 80 gb version. :}

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Posted 12 October 2005 - 06:15 PM

Update:
This may take a while :(
I have a version without QT7, localized for english that sits at about 7.5Mb under 7z.
Only problem is that they have been a bit more sneaky with the QT install part, and I'm having a hard time to bypass it. So, if you have QT 7.0.3 installed it will install fine, but any lesser value and you will get an error. I think the logic is buried in the compiled script file, which is a <sweary word> to get at.
Since you need the latest QT to use this, is it worth me posting this version? Maybe I'll wait until the QT-alt is updated.

@Menedas:
I am not 100% sure, but I guess the new iPod will only support the QT range of video files, apple always seems pretty propriety to me. I hope I'm wrong though! Certainly iTunes installs no codecs or support files for any other format, and I bet you will only get QT-compatible files from the iTunes online store.
And agreed - the iPod is WAY overdue for an 80Gb version! :}

Maybe I'll have better luck after a snooze :D

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