[Bas]

Maybe this will be useful for someone
How to put two of knoppix alike in one cd?

[Screwz Luse]

Or, you can just go through the same steps as adding Knoppix except go into isolinux.sys (or what's not syslinux.sys), and add the following line:

KNOPPIX_DIR=DESIREDDIR

. You add that line to every line in syslinux that begins with Appen. For instance:

APPEND knoppix_dir=KNOPP34 ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init lang=us apm=power-off vga=791 initrd=minirt24.gz

The only problem with this method is it still uses the background file in the KNOPPIX folder for some reason... Maybe I just messed up somehow last time I tried it (the last time I tried 2 versions of Knoppix was with Knoppix 3.4 and Whoppix, but Whoppix is now Whax and based off Gentoo I believe so it's a bit different then before).

You can also try using the cdshell command:

if ($lastKey == key[1]);then isolinux

but this method never worked for me.

[Darude1234]

I still have a little problem. I saw that after I added Linux to the DVD, Windows 98 and ME won't boot anymore. I found the problem, but not yet a solution.

The problem is in the config file: isolinux.cfg in the modules\isolinux directory of cdshell (I called it BOOT)

Normaly when extracting cdshell the file looks like this:

Quote

# You can place your isolinux.cfg and other related isolinux
# files in either:
#
# /boot/modules/isolinux
# /isolinux
#
# If you would like to use the latter, you should delete the
# /boot/modules/isolinux directory (move memdisk to /isolinux
# if you need it).
#

Exactly nothing (all comment lines) and all Windows OS's works fine with this.

After adding Linux you also need to extracted a new isolinux.cfg:

Quote

DEFAULT linux24
APPEND ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init lang=us apm=power-off vga=791 initrd=minirt24.gz nomce noapic quiet BOOT_IMAGE=knoppix
TIMEOUT 300

PROMPT 1
DISPLAY boot.msg
F1 boot.msg
F2 f2
F3 f3
LABEL dsl
KERNEL linux24
APPEND ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init lang=us apm=power-off vga=791 initrd=minirt24.gz nomce noapic quiet BOOT_IMAGE=knoppix
LABEL memtest
KERNEL memtest
APPEND initrd=
LABEL dsl-txt
KERNEL linux24
APPEND ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init lang=us apm=power-off vga=normal initrd=minirt24.gz nomce noapic quiet BOOT_IMAGE=knoppix
LABEL expert
KERNEL linux24
APPEND ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init lang=us apm=power-off vga=791 initrd=minirt24.gz nomce BOOT_IMAGE=expert
LABEL fb1280x1024
KERNEL linux24
APPEND ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init lang=us apm=power-off vga=794 xmodule=fbdev initrd=minirt24.gz nomce noapic quiet BOOT_IMAGE=knoppix
LABEL fb1024x768
KERNEL linux24
APPEND ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init lang=us apm=power-off vga=791 xmodule=fbdev initrd=minirt24.gz nomce noapic quiet BOOT_IMAGE=knoppix
LABEL fb800x600
KERNEL linux24
APPEND ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init lang=us apm=power-off vga=788 xmodule=fbdev initrd=minirt24.gz nomce noapic quiet BOOT_IMAGE=knoppix
LABEL lowram
KERNEL linux24
APPEND ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init lang=us apm=power-off vga=normal initrd=minirt24.gz noscsi noideraid nosound nousb nofirewire noicons minimal nomce noapic nopam quiet BOOT_IMAGE=knoppix
LABEL install
KERNEL linux24
APPEND ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init lang=us apm=power-off vga=normal initrd=minirt24.gz noscsi noideraid nosound nofirewire noicons base norestore _install_ nomce noapic nopam quiet BOOT_IMAGE=knoppix
LABEL failsafe
KERNEL linux24
APPEND ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init lang=us vga=normal atapicd nosound noscsi nousb nopcmcia nofirewire noagp nomce nodhcp xmodule=vesa initrd=minirt24.gz BOOT_IMAGE=knoppix
LABEL userdef
KERNEL linux24
APPEND #####################################################

But with this last isolinux.cfg, Windows ME and 98 won't boot anymore.
VMware says: Error CPU disabled or something like that. I think that when I put it in a normal computer the computer reset itself or something.

Anyone has a solution for this? I thought finally it works, but I'm happy that I found the error, because I thought that I had to create a whole new dvd again.

[Bas]

I had some problems with VMware.
Try testing in MS Virtual PC.

[Darude1234]

Alright I'm downloading Virtual PC now, but maybe I have to test it by burning a DVD-RW for a first test on a "real pc". It should work on that else my dvd is corrupt

[stasys44]

Godzilla
I use Botable CD wizard and think your command will not work for me, as there is no file isolinux in the root of the DVD

Darude 1234
Your method so sophisticated - let's to analise it:

Step 1 - it's clear

Step 2 - download 4320.rar and extract it to the DVD root.
We have 4320.img; there are 11 files in it:

Quote

boot.msg
f2
f3
german.kbd
isolinux.bin          9856 B (i have wrote the size specially)
ldinux.sys
linux
logo.16
memtest
minirt.gz
syslinux.cfg

All these 11 files will be extracted into the folder /BOOT/isolinux.
Is it good the caps for linux - /BOOT/?

Step 3 - it's clear - download Bart's Boot Image extractor --- bbie.exe

Step 4 - bbie has created 3 image files. You only need image1.bin. You can delete the other 2 image files. Rename the image1.bin to isolinux.bin
________ isolinux.bin it's size is 2048 B _________
and place the file in the 4320.IMG you have extracted in the root of your DVD.
There is isolinux.bin already in the image file - 4320.img; should we replace it?; no mention about this. OK, let's replace it.

Step 5 - rename isolinux.cfg to syslinux.cfg. There is no isolinux nor in the /BOOT/isolinux folder nor in the 4320.img file: see Step 2 results in the quots. There is already syslinux.cfg!!! in the file and in the folder.
Add all the files in the BOOT directory into the 4320.IMG. Why do it as all files in the BOOT folder are same as in the 4320.img, except isolinux.bin (you remember - we have it renaming image1.bin; it's size 2048 - we have extracted them from file to folder? Let's do it - and all files will be overwritten if we will allow this. What sence? And what about isolinux.bin? We have one 2048 B in the 4320.img and another 9856 B in the Boot folder. What to do? If we overwrite it why did we such hard job?
__Delete boot.cat & isolinux.bin in the BOOT directory and only boot.cat in your 4320.IMG.__ There is no boot.cat!?

[Darude1234]

stasys44, on Oct 2 2005, 11:45 PM, said:

Godzilla
I use Botable CD wizard and think your command will not work for me, as there is no file isolinux in the root of the DVD

Darude 1234
Your method so sophisticated - let's to analise it:
*cut*

Well, I wrote it on the way I thought I did it. I didn't know exactly the way I did it, but I will look at it again later. I will create a new cd and then post a guide on the way it works, just to make clear for all other users on the forum, how to create a multibootable cd with knoppix

[stasys44]

Modified Darude1234 method (Sep 29 2005, 11:12 AM; Post #27)

Step 1
Download Knoppix.iso, extract KNOPPIX folder to the your future DVD root.

Step 2
Download Floppy image 4320.img
and extract it to the root of your DVD.
Open the image and extract all the files to the \boot\isolinux folder on your DVD.

Step 3-4
Extract bootfile from Knoppix.iso with Bart's Boot Image extractor
or ISO manager (MagicISO or other).
In case of the Bart's Boot Image extractor, image1.bin should be renamed to isolinux.bin.
Bootfile got by MagicISO should be saved isolinux.bin (2048 kB)
Replace the bootfile (isolinux.bin) in the 4320.IMG (you have extracted in the root of your DVD) with the new (2048 kB).

Step 5
Delete isolinux.bin in the BOOT directory

Step 6
Edit your cdshell.ini or bcdw.ini if you use Bootable CD wizard

Step 7
Make ISO

i think the folder /boot/isolinux would be OK from original Knoppix.ISO, only should be deleted isolinux.bin and boot.cat in the /boot/isolinux (Darude1234, may be you experimented with it and you have boot.cat in your boot folder).

[Darude1234]

I completly deleted boot.cat

[stasys44]

I have tried to use /boot/isolinux from original KnoppixLiveDVD.iso (without isolinux.bin and boot.cat), have made new multibootDVD.iso and have burned DVD RW.

I will try to boot DVD after 3 hours as i don't want interrupt downloading.

[stasys44]

Knoppix still boots.
Tomorrow i will try to change switch for CD image: -j1
I need able longnames for Rescue on BartPe basis.

[Godzilla]

You can rename:
\BPE1\WINSXS\MANIFESTS\X86_MICROSOFT.TOOLS.VISUALCPLUSPLUS.RUNTIME-LIBRARIES.RESOURCES_6595B64144CCF1DF_6.0.0.0_DE-DE_B5F95279.MANIFEST
in
\BPE1\WINSXS\MANIFESTS\X86_MICROSOFT.TOOLS.VISUALCPLUSPLUS.RUNTIME-LIBRARIES.RESOURCES_6595B64144CCF1DF_6.0.0.0_DE-DE_B5F95279.MAN
without Problems.

[Darude1234]

stasys44, on Oct 6 2005, 11:23 PM, said:

Knoppix still boots.
Tomorrow i will try to change switch for CD image: -j1
I need able longnames for Rescue on BartPe basis.

This is the correct command for creating the ISO:

Quote

start cdimage.exe -lAIODVD -t08/23/2001,09:00:00 -h -j1 -b\AIO-DVD\BOOT\loader.bin -o -m \AIO-DVD c:\AIODVD.iso

ofcourse you have to edit the paths to your files. In my example: AIO-DVD-folder is on the root of my d-partition. (d:\AIO-DVD\)

[qzmicro]

Hi guys. I am trying to multi-boot knoppix and vista. I would like knoppix to boot from this exact command from my boot menu:

if $lastKey == key[9]; then bcdw boot /4320.IMG

. From what I hear it works with CDSHELL, but I can't get it to work. CD shell says:

Error: Unknown Command
[Command:bcdw] [Line: 72.2] [File:cdshell.ini]

. Can anyone shed some light on this ubject for me please. I've googled for info, but can't find any. Thanks.

Qz

[amd64lover]

it should say if $lastKey == key[9]; then memdisk /4230.IMG ... (and no need to double post)

[qzmicro]

Alright guys, got it to work alone, but when I use the -j1 attribute for cdimage.exe it kills my windows OSes. Is there a way to dual boot windows and knoppix? Has anyone done it succesfully?! Thanks.

Qz

This post has been edited by qzmicro: 29 October 2005 - 10:01 PM

[andyd]

So has anyone ironed out all the issues? Almost done with my multi-boot but considering waiting for this if someone managed to get it working 100%

This post has been edited by andyd: 07 November 2005 - 10:50 PM

[qzmicro]

Yup. I got it working. 100%. I have noticed that with multi-boot DVD-DLs though... (mine is almost 8.2 Gigs)... you cannot fill them up past 7.5 gigs AND use Windows 2000 Professional or 2000 Server. Advanced server works fine, but for some reason the other two simply won't work with a file system that big. Doesn't seem to matter what files they are or what they are for. (I tried removing and installing Vista and some linux distros... and the **** thing just won't work if I fill my CD all the way up. Anyone have any ideas? Other than that... knoppix works fine. If you need any help, please post.

Qz

This post has been edited by qzmicro: 08 November 2005 - 04:53 PM

[andyd]

Well, I really would like to know how you got it working

[chriskoivu]

It should boot off the cd without having to copy files.. Just edit the sys file in the ISO and edit the bootfile to look for Knoppix....