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HFSLIP, The 2K/XP/2K3 slipstreamer

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don't i need the ff:
CDROM_IP.5, CDROM_NT.5, and cdromsp4.tst (as like in the example pic for 2K)

pls correct me if i'm misguided, i copy the entire i386 from the cd right? following step 2 actually creates the other windows folders in the process? am i doing something wrong here? :(

running the script initially creates other folders in the HFSLIP directory

basically, what i did was to create a new partition - D:
in this root, RECYCLER & System Volume Information folders are immediately present ... would this not affect the process at all

i just want to ensure that i am not lost here & successfully integrate &/or slipstream all hotfixes ... & lastly have the desired bootable cd for fresh installation Ü

thanks for the immediate feedback!
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Create a folder called HFSLIP in the root of your D: drive
Place the HFSLIP program inside it and run it
Copy the content of your CD into D:\HFSLIP\SOURCE
Place the hotfixes in D:\HFSLIP\HF (etc)
Run the HFSLIP program again

CDROM_IP.5, CDROM_NT.5, and cdromsp4.tst (as like in the example pic for 2K)

Those files are for Windows 2000. According to your ERROR_REPORT.TXT file, you were using Windows XP. So which OS are you trying to make a CD for?

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thanks for that sir ... i'm using XP ... i merely was just thinking about those files very remotely :(

thanks again ...

in about a couple of hours i'll start with the process again ...
i just hope that i would not encounter nLite crashing on me again when i try to remove some components & put some tweaks (i will not use nLite to integrate SPs, hotfixes)

oh btw, i only copy i386 to the source or do i copy the entire contents of the cd to SOURCE

Edited by Kiki Burgh, 24 March 2006 - 11:16 PM.

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The SOURCE folder should be the contents of your CD. So if your original CD has a folder called kiki alongside your i386 folder, then your source folder should have a folder called kiki folder alongside your i386 folder. The only folders you need for a barebones installation is the i386 folder AND you need the ident files from the CD too. The ident files as specified here
http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=70109

There are other files and folders that you can delete too. Information for other files to be deleted are on the unattended.msfn.org site.
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Kiki,
Quick note in passing - you said you have boot.INI as extracted
by bbie. Probably a typo - but JIC Should be called boot.BIN

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Hi again!

silly me: boot.bin ... it was a typo! :P

hi i tried all thatr i could over the weekend ... i believe that as far as slipstreaming those multiple hotfixes, HSLIP has no problem dealing with it.

however, i just like to share some thoughts & wish to have some more guide from y'all. :no:

my installation was stuck at 39 minutes ... i even left it ovenight --- exactly for 12 hours but still no go!
i allowed this to happen for the nth time thinking that it was just taking its time ... as apparently sys was not hung as i could still toggle num lock, scroll lock & caps lock keys ...

btw, this has already happened to me using nLite (& I was advised to "remove cat files + disable windows file protecion in the patches section") --- apparently it resolved the issue but still my question back then (until now Ü) was what effect would it have on my OS installation source

i re-did the process (redoing the entire process from executing HFLSIP_60317.cmd to about 30-35 minutes wait time + doing it with nLite too ... to "remove cat files + disable windows file protecion in the patches section")

this time i tried waiting for lesser duration ... i thought i'd take out the cd & see what happens ... eventually after some time it prompted me to put in the source cd ... it got me started again at least (which i thought would already go all the way to the end) & got a prompt for kbbdhc.dll;kbdbhc.dl_ & all along the file was just sitting there ... this was something i could brush aside as this was pretty easy to understand ... next prompt was about an advanced INF install error: could not locate INF file 'c:\winnt\inf\nlite.inf ... and then it was stuck again at 34 minutes while installing devices ...

i tried restarting the system & see if it would resume from where i interrupted the process but it restarted from 39 minutes ... not the very long wait again! ...

with some other attempts, after retracing the some steps above, it moved on but still asked for the product key, workgroup & others (even with correct & consistent entries in winnt.sif & unattended.txt) ... i thought it was already a success as it got to as far as about 9 minutes but then again after installing dotnetfix it restarted & i was back to where i feared it would be ... stuck at 39 minutes ...

this prompted me to remove dotnet fix in my next attempt & after the crawl & doing some steps i thought would quite speed up the process ... i thought my long waits already worth the sacrifice as it got to as far as 1 minute left with removing temporary files used ... and it got stuck again ... wow!

please know i have already created several & different versions of ISOs ... about 6-8 i think ...
1) the original ISO created by HFSLIP (w/ manual integration of SP2)
2) another ISO created by HFSLIP (SP slipstreamed via HFSVPK folder)
3 & 4) 1 & 2 ISOs created via nLite
5 & 6) 1 & 2 ISOs created via nLite w/ some components removed & some tweaks applied (including removing the cat files)
7 & *) some other ISOs i created with different settings

i have verified from the ERROR_REPORT by HFSLIp that there is not a single error

and all have basically the same concern about being stuck at 39 minutes ...

please know that i have been quite frustraterd over all these ... but i am still hopeful you could help me ...

if it's worth anything, i'm running this with a 1gb mem, 2 ASUS optical drives (both cd-rw & dvd-rw have been tried as bootable devices), AMD Athlon XP 2+, a 40gb 7200rpm Seagate hd & an 80gb 7200rpm Maxtor hd ... so i guess hardware would not be an issue

i too would like to remove briedcase, internet games, msn explorer & windows messenger (which i suppose is possible via setup mgr or even thriugh winnt.sif or unattend.txt) & specifically to remove ALL languages & keyboards EXCEPT English

PLEASE! your advice would be highly appreciated!

thanks very much!

-KIKI-
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A few quick notes. ERROR_REPORT is used by the HFSLIP developers to see what the user is doing. It does not report any problems encountered during the hfslip process. IIRC, you may want to recheck your hotfixes and apply the ones that really apply to your machine. I'm sure that your machine does not have every problem that the hotfixes are addressing. Perhaps a good start is to slipstream the critical fixes (with the proper MSFT filenaming scheme) and test the ISO. Then add more and more hotfixes (with the MSFT filenaming scheme) and test the ISOs along the way. Personally, I have a funny feeling that your hotfixes don't have the proper filenames, but that's just me. :)

On a sidenote, if you want to disable some optional things from being installed, you could use a winnt.sif file.
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A couple of remarks...

1) If you want to let HFSLIP slipstream the Service Pack, you need to create a folder called HFSPACK inside HFSLIP and place the SP file (Network Install version) in there. Not in HFSVPK.

2) Addons don't go in the HFSVPK folder. They go in HFAAO which you also need to create yourself.

3) Where are you getting this "DOTNETFX.EXE" from? HFSLIP doesn't support the one from Microsoft. If it's a silent switchless installer for .NET 1.1, it should be moved in HFSVPK.


On a sidenote, if you want to disable some optional things from being installed, you could use a winnt.sif file.

Kiki is using a winnt.sif file...

Edited by Tomcat76, 29 March 2006 - 05:12 AM.

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hi again!
thanks for the comments ...

while i was at home after office (this was after i posted my concern Ü) i took a 2nd look at the the folders in HFSLIP & yup i placed SP2 in the HFSPACK folder as i strictly followed what was generated for me in this link: http://users.telenet...nup/_winxp.html ... my bad for the wrong info ... but please know i followed these instructions to the detail & always cross-refered to http://www.vorck.com/hfslip.html

and integration was successful as per the pop-up ... i think too that integration of the hotfixes was equally successful

as for the dotnetfx.exe i used the 1 from MS ... but i do have to RyanVM's 1.1 ver & 2.0 ver ... i'll use these later when i start fresh once again ... i did not create 1 yesterday as i was waiting for any advice ...

as for the add-ons i have already placed them in the manually created HFAAO (as pointed out by Super Magician) before my last ISOs

By the way, your CAB files might be better in HFAAO as they are "addon" packs. I'm not sure about that, but if you have questions, please ask Tomcat.


as for the file names, i already have the format: WindowsXP-KB######-v#-x86-ENU.exe ... in much earlier ISOs, i experimented on this particular format as well as the KB######.exe format & both actually created the same ISOs for me ...

a little confusing though is "Do not rename the files. (However, it is ok to put a prefix to the filename in case you want to segregate some hotfixes.)" from http://www.vorck.com/hfslip.html ... doesn't putting some prefix in a way renames the file or are there certain words or string that is being parsed ... if so which would it be?

my main concern now is how do i go around being stuck at 39 mins ... & finally be able to complete a successful installation

sirs, would there be an HFSLIP way for removing the cat files (if necessary as advised to me in nLite before)

click advanced, remove cat files ;) + disable windows file protecion in the patches section

its not stuck, just going through the files really slowly!


as for the number of hotfixes, i agree with you that there may be some that my sys does not need ... but you see, i am just trying to slipstream all avail just the same to end up with something like SP3 :whistle:

and sirs, would it be possible to remove the non-Eng keyboards & non-Eng languages?

i am looking forward to sharing a very positive note on HFSLIP when i overcome all of these!

i'll be attaching my winnt.sif, unattended.txt & error report tomorrow.

your advise is really precious! :}
thanks!

Edited by Kiki Burgh, 29 March 2006 - 08:57 PM.

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i took a 2nd look at the the folders in HFSLIP & yup i placed SP2 in the HFSPACK folder as i strictly followed what was generated for me in this link: http://users.telenet...nup/_winxp.html ...

Please note the difference: HFSPACK and HFSVPK. The first folder is for the Service Pack file and the second folder is for switchless installers. According to your latest ERROR_REPORT.TXT, you placed the Service Pack in the folder intended for switchless installers. You have to move the Service Pack into HFSPACK.

as for the dotnetfx.exe i used the 1 from MS ... but i do have to RyanVM's 1.1 ver & 2.0 ver ... i'll use these later when i start fresh once again ...

RyanVM's .NET 1.1 will work (put it in HFSVPK <-- note the name!) but RyanVM's .NET 2.0 only works from GUIRunOnce which HFSLIP doesn't support. Some people had success with Zxian's .NET 2.0 installer (this would go in HFSVPK too).

as for the file names, i already have the format: WindowsXP-KB######-v#-x86-ENU.exe ...
(...)
are there certain words or string that is being parsed ... if so which would it be?

It's important that every file that originally had "Windows" in its name still has "Windows" in its name. Also, for some hotfixes, "KB######" is required.

sirs, would there be an HFSLIP way for removing the cat files (if necessary as advised to me in nLite before)

There is no way right now (except for manually deleting the CAT files and editing SVCPACK.INF), but wait with that for now.

as for the number of hotfixes, i agree with you that there may be some that my sys does not need ... but you see, i am just trying to slipstream all avail just the same to end up with something like SP3 :whistle:

You should first try to work with HFSLIP the way it was designed to be used. Hotfixes which were never listed on the hotfix pages on this forum were never tested so problems may arise. I strongly suggest you use the hotfix pages on this forum as a guide for now until everything works. After that, you can start adding back the additional hotfixes.

and sirs, would it be possible to remove the non-Eng keyboards & non-Eng languages?

It is possible through the HFCLEANUP feature but someone else here will have to tell you what to do. I'm not that familiar with it.


Here's what I suggest you do (if you haven't done so yet):

1) Download the latest test release (60328c) and extract the HFSLIP_60328c CMD file into your HFSLIP folder
2) Move the Service Pack file from HFSVPK into HFSPACK
3) Move away (for now) all the hotfixes which are not listed on the hotfix pages here
4) Move away the winnt.sif file

After that, run HFSLIP (60328c) and make your CD (don't use nLite or anything else). Install Windows and see how far you get.

Edited by Tomcat76, 29 March 2006 - 09:39 PM.

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thanks much for the very quick reply sir!
really appreciate it! :D

i'll do just that ...

btw, what i get from this link http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=57659 is: 60317 ver ...
kindly lead me where i could get the latest ver.

thanks much again!
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Test releases: http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=69809 :)
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thanks Tomcat76 ...
hopefully, i could provide you guys good news by tom Ü
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Hi!

This may be a bit uninteresting or might have already been posted or pretty off to post :( but I just want to share this link: http://search.micros...st=11&FORM=PEME for some other unofficial hotfixes that may not yet have been included in the list here.

If posting this was a silly thing to do, my apologies. ;)
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No, it's not silly, but those hotfixes are not freely available. You need to call MS to get these and I don't think anyone here would do that just to see if they work with HFSLIP.

Make your CD with what's supported first. If it works, add in those additional hotfixes and check again.

If you come up with a list of "kbwinxpsp3fix" hotfixes which don't work with HFSLIP you can post it in a separate thread for the community.
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hi again!

i did not like to post while i have no good news yet ...
i have followed the steps, as well as priortized your suggestions (about sticking only to those hotfixes that are present in HFSLIP's website) but sadly i have not been thoroughly successful ...
i spent the entire weekend creating & trying different ISOs (either manually or HFSLIPped way of SP2 integration) in 1 PC & with another 1 running Virtual Machines ... all getting stuck this time at exactly 9 minutes remaining (while saving settings) ... in 1 attempt i even slept over it & when i woke up in the morning it was still at 9 minutes :(

could this have anything to do with networking components (though i've already tried typical & even disabled internal nic in other attempts); i'm also thinking could this involve likewise mediaplayer 10 (in 1 attempt have placed it in HF while in another in HFSVPK_SW); have also skipped the media connect file

i will try again later when i get home ... i am still hopeful! :}

hopefully, i could share some good news to you guys ... i have already downloaded both HFSLIP_60403c.7z & HFSLIP_60401.

allow me to ask --- what was the change for reversing the priority of cdimage.exe & mkisof.exe when both are present in the HFTOOLS folder?

btw, in some of my attempts too, winnt.sif doesn't seem to take the settings for time zone, workgroup & typical networking components as i still get the prompts for these ... this is despite having them declared correctly in winnt.sif &/or unattended.txt ... it seemed to take on the product keys & others ... have likewise tried winnt.si_ (just an attempt to see if there'd be any diff), same result

another thing, i seem to notice that if i do manual integration of SP2, kbbdhc.dll;kbdbhc.dl_ always results to not being found in the source folder & i always have to browse during set-up to the i386 directory ... if i let HFSLIP though do the slipstreaming, this particular prob does not show ... what gives? :)

i also encountered some other errors that had counts on it ... but i did not bring with me the screenshot (as i was not supposed to get in the forum yet :( ) i will provide the necessary attachments when i post again ...

to the rest, could you please assist me in working with HFCLEANUP to remove the other non-Eng languages & non-Eng keyboards

thanks much!

Edited by Kiki Burgh, 03 April 2006 - 09:05 PM.

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allow me to ask --- what was the change for reversing the priority of cdimage.exe & mkisof.exe when both are present in the HFTOOLS folder?

Actually, in the 60317 version, you'd get the ISO created twice if both cdimage.exe and mkisofs.exe exist in the HFTOOLS folder. I changed that so it would only use cdimage.exe in that case (60331) but I had a talk with TommyP and we came to the conclusion that it's better to use mkisofs.exe. It shouldn't really matter... Why would one place both applications in the HFTOOLS folder anyway?

another thing, i seem to notice that if i do manual integration of SP2, kbbdhc.dll;kbdbhc.dl_ always results to not being found in the source folder & i always have to browse during set-up to the i386 directory ... if i let HFSLIP though do the slipstreaming, this particular prob does not show ... what gives? :)

Haha... The power of HFSLIP? :D

Make sure all files in the SOURCE folder are not set to read-only before (and after) integrating the service pack.
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to the rest, could you please assist me in working with HFCLEANUP to remove the other non-Eng languages & non-Eng keyboards


One step at a time. Get your hfslip structure working properly first.
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hi again!

thanks for the patience guys ... :)

i hope you find the attachments useful in determining what the problem might be ...
i still couldn't get past 9 minutes remaining in the setup (saving settings stage) ... what exactly is the activity during this time that makes it difficult to wrap up?

i have already encountered being stuck at 39 minutes (catalog files issue)
i have likewise encountered being stuck at 34 minutes (usb driver)
at 13 minutes, it chokes but i guess this is when some other apps are integrated
but this ... well ... i'm stumped!

i think i read in the test thread dziubek had the same problem but didn't notice any resolution

1. I have big problem. My setup stops in 9 minute near end of installation.
In spite it removal the content of catalogs: HFSVPK and HFAAO. Problem steps out from several version hfslip, but I had not time about this to write :>


pls advise :}

thanks!

-kiki-

the 1st attachment i got from running the script from the command promt
the 2nd 1 is my attempt with all the other unofficial fixes
the 3rd 1 is for my attempt with only those listed: http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=62177

btw, may i ask which would be the best option among these driver compression (with A as default):
[A] merge into single Driver.cab, highest compression
[b] merge into single Driver.cab, medium compression
[C] merge into single Driver.cab, low compression
[D] no merge, creates SPx.cab, highest compression
[E] no merge, creates SPx.cab, medium compression
[F] no merge, creates SPx.cab, lowest compression
which 1 do you use when creating your ISOs? :)

i have likewise attached my screenshots for some errors in 1 of my attempts (using VMWare & Virtual PC generated the same results)
pls note that the 1st screenshot is only 1 among many of the many HFSLP###.INF pop-up errors.
the 2nd screenshot is a proof that apparently sys had not hung but there was no more activity happening.

i've attached too my winnt.sif in case you'd want to look at it.
just like what i shared yesterday, regional & language settings, time zone, typical network components & workgroup do not work even if set

thanks again ...

-kiki-


Edited by moderator. Kiki-- Don't put your CD key in the wild...

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This file is for Windows XP SP1: Q828026.exe

These files are not supported (never tested):
DECCHECKSetup.EXE
WinColorSetup.exe
WindowsDesktopSearch-kb911993-x86-ENU.exe
ADMFiles_WindowsXPSP2.msi
CalcPlus.msi
ClearIECache.msi
MsgFilt.msi
RAWViewer.msi
TimeZoneSetup.msi
UFDSetupWizard.msi

These are not needed for a default install (and are untested):
KB832414_MSXML4.0_x86.exe
msxml4msms.exe

But I don't think removing these will fix the problem.

Are you using a clean source now (fresh CD copy)?

I don't think HFSLIP does anything to mess with the stuff that happens at T-9. Do you have an error report in the WINDOWS folder that contains more information? There should be several setup*.log and setup*.txt files there.


BTW... I edited your previous post and mentioned the reason at the end (below your name).

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thanks much sir!Ü

oops ... blunder about the product key Ü

i'll try to grab those error reports that you need but i'll have to create a new later when i get home ... you see everytime the installation quits on me, i delete it & copy a new source ...

i hope that it wouldn't matter that i am currently using winxp sp1 cd (i could try though a 2nd disk - Dell OEM winxp sp1) ... i am trying to look for the xp gold disk from friends but almost everyone i know have in their internet-gaming shops the winxp sp1 cd

but from what i've read, it's fine, ain't it? :)

what could you recommend though for the compression type that i would use?

i'll experiment again with new builds Ü
on the average, i get to create about 4 ISOs, aborted installations included, upon getting home & before sleeping ...
really hopeful i could hit the winning combo here ...

Edited by Kiki Burgh, 04 April 2006 - 11:49 PM.

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Kiki, with your SP1 CD, I'm assuming you manually slipstreamed SP2, right?

Also, you need to get rid of all your extra stuff and try it once. I mean, get rid of SFCFILES.DL_ and winnt.sif, get rid of all the MSI files Tomcat mentioned, and ONLY use the hotfixes mentioned on Tomcat's page (please use this link).

Tomcat - does the ERROR_REPORT.TXT (or HFSLIP.TXT in the test releases) mention if you're using HFSLIP to slipstream an SP?

Edited by Super-Magician, 05 April 2006 - 06:06 AM.

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i hope that it wouldn't matter that i am currently using winxp sp1 cd (i could try though a 2nd disk - Dell OEM winxp sp1) ...

Just to be sure: did you include SP2 in the HFSPACK folder?

i am trying to look for the xp gold disk from friends but almost everyone i know have in their internet-gaming shops the winxp sp1 cd

That might be a good idea to test. Slipstream SP2 and the supported hotfixes into it using HFSLIP and then install it through VM. If this works, your disks are custom made by the manufacturer you bought your computer(s) from and can't be used.

what could you recommend though for the compression type that i would use?

For now, I'd recommend using A, B or C to exclude any problems with SPX.CAB. I use B myself but it's up to you.

Do remove those additional files as Super-Magician says. You need to get a working base first.

Tomcat - does the ERROR_REPORT.TXT (or HFSLIP.TXT in the test releases) mention if you're using HFSLIP to slipstream an SP?

No, it doesn't. I'll add it in the next update... :)
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thanks for these again ...

what i've done yesterday so far looks promising ... i just need to finish the rest & do some more ISOs when i get home later so i could post the results & some other comparisons ...

by the looks of it, putting nothing else aside from those posted in the web could be the key :) sad though :( that if such is the case, then i could not customize the contents of of my slipstreamed disk

If this works, your disks are custom made by the manufacturer you bought your computer(s) from and can't be used

do you mean "If this doesn't work"? :P

to answer your 1st Q,

Just to be sure: did you include SP2 in the HFSPACK folder?

yup, i did

i'll update you guys ... i wish i'm close!

Edited by Kiki Burgh, 05 April 2006 - 09:38 PM.

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If this works, your disks are custom made by the manufacturer you bought your computer(s) from and can't be used

do you mean "If this doesn't work"? :P

No... "If this works" = "If it works using an XP Gold source from friends"...
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