[Jlo555]

Alright, I've been able to use VMware on windows 2000/XP and it works pretty well. The problem is that it ONLY runs on NT4.0/2000/XP and NOT 98SE. So, does anyone know of a program that does most of the same things as vmware (or better) like provide the OS emulator with sound, network, usb etc AND runs on windows 98SE?

[eidenk]

Try to have a go with Bochs (Box). It's freeware or open source but probably much less user friendly than VMware. I have never used it myself so I cannot say more

http://bochs.sourceforge.net/

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/bochs/B...in.zip?download

Or also here maybe :

http://www.thefreeco...lators/pc.shtml

[wizardofwindows]

microsoft virtual pc

[the_guy]

That only works on 2000/XP.

[wizardofwindows]

opps

[Rhelic]

I've heard from many different people that VMWare is the best, I find it very bizarre that VMWare wouldn't work with 98SE, well made virtual software doesn't care what OS you throw at it.

Your next bet is Virtual Server or Virtual PC. Unfortunately both of which only officially support Windows OSs (but the app does have support for Linux and other OSs until/unless MS removes that support in the future).

This post has been edited by Rhelic: 27 October 2005 - 01:23 PM

[Jlo555]

Meh, I'll try Bochs I guess in a couple days. I don't know why VMware was never released for any non-NT or non-Linux systems. Might have something to do with the virtual networking stuff; I think that's why Hamachi (virtual private networking app) wouldn't work on 98se. But maybe the VMware programmers are just lazy...

[EchoNoise]

Or that you don't know how much programming goes into programs like these!!

[Crash&Burn]

Might be more likely in the future when AMD's CPU virtualization hits the street, though does look like Intel is doing the same, and apparently they are so "compatible" that code written for one will work for the other. Amazing 2 breakthroughs that are so compatible from 2 different camps.

[pcalvert]

You could also try QEMU.

These are the main QEMU sites I've found:

QEMU
http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/

FreeOsZoo
http://free.oszoo.org/


Phil

[modicr]

Hello!

Connectix Virtual PC 5.1 works under Windows 98 SE.


Servus, Roman

[ricardrosen]

modicr, on Oct 30 2005, 01:08 PM, said:

Hello!

Connectix Virtual PC 5.1 works under Windows 98 SE.


Servus, Roman

Connectox VPC 5.1 is in my opinion better than Microsoft's VPC2004 as it is much much faster to run dos games on. Apart from that it is nearly the same with features.
Connectix Virtual PC 5.2 was the last one and is the best for an NT based system but doesn't support win9x.
Get the free Connectix VPC 5.1 demo for win9x.

This post has been edited by ricardrosen: 30 October 2005 - 03:05 PM

[hankjrfan00]

undeadsoldier, on Oct 28 2005, 01:39 AM, said:

Or that you don't know how much programming goes into programs like these!!

Agreed. Creating a virtual pc is probably one of the hardest programming task imaginable. The only thing that may be harder would be to create a whole operating system.

I am willing to bet that a lot of the code for a virtual pc is written in assembly which also adds to the dificulty.

I would never call a programmer for such a project lazy.

[JasonGW]

Jlo555, on Oct 28 2005, 01:14 AM, said:

Meh, I'll try Bochs I guess in a couple days. I don't know why VMware was never released for any non-NT or non-Linux systems. Might have something to do with the virtual networking stuff; I think that's why Hamachi (virtual private networking app) wouldn't work on 98se. But maybe the VMware programmers are just lazy...

Perhaps because Windows Non-NT OS's are junk? Seriously, A VM software needs excellent support for things like Protected Memory Access, robust scheduling of system resources, etc., none of which are items that a Non-Linux, Non-Windows NT based OS can provide. Windows 9x/Me are basically junk.

Jason

[randiroo76073]

Modicr, Ricardrosen, do you happen to know where you can still purchase Connectix VPC 5.1? I did a search & didn't come up with an answer.

Jason, since your not going to add anything of value, toddle on back to XP forum!

[mjc]

qemu is indeed the best free one. If you happen to have a Mac around, give Project Q a shot.

http://www.kberg.ch/q/

[JasonGW]

randiroo76073, on Oct 31 2005, 02:42 PM, said:

Modicr, Ricardrosen, do you happen to know where you can still purchase Connectix VPC 5.1? I did a search & didn't come up with an answer.

Jason, since your not going to add anything of value, toddle on back to XP forum!

In the first place, I'm rarely ever at the XP forum to begin with. In the second, I DID add something of value, with a brief overview of WHY they don't make VMWare for non-NT or Linux systems. Those are good reasons, and they're worth knowing.

Jason

[ricardrosen]

randiroo76073, on Oct 31 2005, 01:42 PM, said:

Modicr, Ricardrosen, do you happen to know where you can still purchase Connectix VPC 5.1? I did a search & didn't come up with an answer.

Jason, since your not going to add anything of value, toddle on back to XP forum!

the filename for the 30 day free trial is "VPC_51_Trial.exe" google it you should find some links.

[MikeRS]

QEMU's going to be the fastest you can get... but you can't run KQEMU (NT4/2000/XP/2003 only)

Not many people actually want virtualisers on Windows 9x, that's why there are none.

[somewan]

JasonGW, on Oct 31 2005, 10:02 PM, said:

randiroo76073, on Oct 31 2005, 02:42 PM, said:

Modicr, Ricardrosen, do you happen to know where you can still purchase Connectix VPC 5.1? I did a search & didn't come up with an answer.

Jason, since your not going to add anything of value, toddle on back to XP forum!

In the first place, I'm rarely ever at the XP forum to begin with. In the second, I DID add something of value, with a brief overview of WHY they don't make VMWare for non-NT or Linux systems. Those are good reasons, and they're worth knowing.

Jason

It would be possible to implement a virtual machine with much better performance and dependable real-time characteristics on top of DOS or from scratch - including boot sector program and all. However, it would require a lot more work, and anyone who is more interested in quick results and commercial success than in building the best possible VM would certainly prefer to do so on top of NT or Linux.

I'm not saying that's unreasonable, but let's be honest about it.