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#461 User is offline   txagpilot 

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 07:02 PM

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To prevent SFP from loading on WinME startup, use the MSCONFIG tool and uncheck the *Statemgr entry, click OK to save changes and restart WinME. That basically shuts down SFP entirely.

Still no response from the_guy. It looks like the ME service pack project is now on hold.

Hey erpdude8,

Thanks for the reply. I see that the_guy is still active in the forums. I hope he will soon still address what are probably the last of any issues with the unofficial SP, it's coming up on 2 years in progress.

Being an advanced user, I was already aware of the statemgr (and any other 'hampers' in the startup) and System Restore is off. Specifically, I cannot get the 'Cookies' and 'History' 'working' folders moved to another partition, without SFP re-building or still locking them to the OS on C partition. I didn't have any trouble with moving the 'Recent', 'Temp' or 'Temp Internet Files' folders to partition E. Six years ago, with some reg trick info I had run across on the internet/forums (I was too naive to make myself a 'real note' of the reg fix at that time (I keep plenty of detailed notes now lol), I just did the fix to my OEM Compaq WinMe laptop and moved all those folders to partition E and happily hopped along. daaah). I have also tried modifying the reg entries directly that direct to the folders locations, they get reset. The fix was either a DWORD or String Value, either added or changed, possibly a 'no run' or 'no load'. I've been trying to track the fix down for a year+ now, trying to duplicate my laptop setup.

One more question/fix. At startup there is the System BIOS screen, then Windows Me, then a flash with the Windows Me screen again, then the desktop. Again it was another tip/fix I had run across on the internet/forums that stopped the second Windows Me screen from appearing, allowing one to see the 'real' screen that would show messages, such as 'Please wait while Setup updates your Configuration Files, this may take a few minutes. Completed updating files, continuing to load Windows...' screen. Have you any ideas as how to fix/set this screen action so that the second Windows Me startup screen does not show?

Thanks for any help,
txagpilot

This post has been edited by txagpilot: 17 October 2008 - 03:22 PM



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Posted 12 November 2008 - 02:44 PM

the_guy did promise to release a 'release candidate' edition of the WinME SP by the end of last year (2007) but that never happened.
he might be active in these forums but haven't found time to revise his WinME service pack.
a bunch of files needed to be updated in his ME SP including the WinTop files that are currently corrupted and needed to
be replaced with clean ones.

This post has been edited by erpdude8: 12 November 2008 - 02:47 PM


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Posted 29 November 2008 - 09:33 AM

hey does this have all the updates from the mircosoft website all the ones thay made for windows me?

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 05:13 AM

the guy i downloaded your update thing just got a few things i gotta say
i installed main updates [all updates and hotfixes]
but didit install adaptec aspi update [4.60.1021]
tweakui 1.33
command pompt here
perfomance tweaks [reqires at least 64mb of ram]
wintop

because i dont know what they are
can you explain them please

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 05:17 AM

i downloaded it from this http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showto...7&start=400
but this is not the newest one right?
the newest one am gussing its this
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showto...400#entry633925
but you said it temporary
how do i get the newest one

i installed main updates [all updates and hotfixes]
but didit install adaptec aspi update [4.60.1021]
tweakui 1.33
command pompt here
perfomance tweaks [reqires at least 64mb of ram]
wintop

because i dont know what they are
can you explain them please

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Posted 24 December 2008 - 11:52 AM

try not to double post, starcraftmaster.

the_guy seems to be very busy this time of year, so I'll provide some answers to your questions.

Wintop is an old Win95 Kerneltoy that monitors CPU usage of programs.
Command Prompt Here powertoy displays a "command prompt" menu command when right-clicking on a folder in Windows Explorer.
Performance Tweaks make efficient use of RAM, Vcache and may improve overall system performance in some computers.
TweakUI 1.33 Powertoy is used to customize the Windows user interface; try Googling "TweakUI", starcraftmaster, if you want a better explanation than what I'm saying here.
Adaptec ASPI Update (4.6.0.1021) installs Adaptec ASPI drivers for ASPI/SCSI adapters.

FYI - the latest available ME service pack is 2.02 Beta 9 posted at MDGx's web site:
http://www.mdgx.com/spx/MESP1.EXE

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Posted 27 December 2008 - 08:26 AM

thanks for the help erpdude8

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Posted 27 December 2008 - 08:27 AM

thanks for the help erpdude8

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Posted 27 December 2008 - 08:29 AM

damm i double post again sorry

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 11:15 AM

View Poststarcraftmaster, on Dec 27 2008, 06:29 AM, said:

damm i double post again sorry


Don't do it again or you may be banned from this forum. You have been warned!

I'm making a request to the moderators of this Win9x forum to delete starcraftmaster's "extra" posts in this thread.

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 08:11 AM

hey i have a problom i installed windows me update and the proformance thing but i had to do some thing so i unstalled the window me unoffiacl update in add and remove
but now when i try to boot the system it gets past the windows me splash sceen then trys to load the desktop but the computer restarts all a sudden

so i tryed safe mode but it shuts down insted of restarting lol

lucky i had a norton ghost image to recover from becasue i would have been stuffed

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 11:55 PM

View Posterpdude8, on Oct 5 2007, 02:54 PM, said:

same thing with Q296773. tried to request that a few years ago but it's no longer available from MS support. luckily, I found Q296773 inside a Dell OS update pack for certain Dell laptops. Also MS article 296773 has been removed from the MS support site.


all right. I'm now dead wrong on Q296773. I've just emailed MS for this and they sent me the hotfix with the "correct" digital signatures on the EXE package. File size of the patch should be 316224 bytes, not 316416 bytes like the one packaged in some Dell OS update package. So it IS still available.

So MDGx, if you are reading this latest post of mine, I will send you the Q296773 WinME hotfix that has the valid digital signatures in it.

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 02:17 AM

I selected all the options except Wintop. Upon reboot I get a message saying that KB918547.EXE expects a newer version of Windows.

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 03:48 AM

turn it off in msconfig
go to start and then run and type in msconfig and then go to the start up tab and find KB918547.EXE and then unlick it and then go to OK and then it will say you want to restart and say yes

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 02:13 AM

The ASPI 4.6 option in the Unofficial WinMe service pack 1 2.02 beta 9 screws it up by putting the ASPI files in C:\Windows instead of where they're supposed to be in Windows\system (winaspi.dll and wnaspi32.dll) and Windows\system\iosubsys (apix.vxd)

WinMe doesn't have aspienum.vxd, the file extractor in msconfig doesn't find it.

Since they're in the wrong places, the kill aspi batch file with force aspi can't remove them, but it does remove all the original WinMe aspi files.

And since those other aspi files are in the wrong place, installing any other aspi still won't fix it.

After getting this straightened out with WinMe's original ASPI files, the Phillips CDD4801 drive works.

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Posted 07 March 2009 - 05:32 PM

Hello all ;)


I've always felt sad no official sp for ME was ever made and am glad a few peeps here took the efford to create their own. Unfortunately I'm using a dutch version of ME.

I've been reading on these forums for a couple of years now and am wondering if theres anything I could do to help create a dutch version of the service pack.
Unfortunately the french version of the service pack seems to be unavailable or I could've compared the 2 versions and 'modded' a dutch version from the english version.

I suppose a dutch version of this sp was never made or started?

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  Posted 07 March 2009 - 07:46 PM

View PostDutch Delight, on Mar 8 2009, 12:32 AM, said:

Hello all ;)


I've always felt sad no official sp for ME was ever made and am glad a few peeps here took the efford to create their own. Unfortunately I'm using a dutch version of ME.

I've been reading on these forums for a couple of years now and am wondering if theres anything I could do to help create a dutch version of the service pack.
Unfortunately the french version of the service pack seems to be unavailable or I could've compared the 2 versions and 'modded' a dutch version from the english version.

I suppose a dutch version of this sp was never made or started?


the same is true for me. I would love a german version.

Because the SP makes ME really more stable and fixes lots of stuff I use now a english ME, for the SP alone..

As far as I can see the main problem is not only translation but hotfixes that are available only in US-English. Thanks to MDGX who has them all on his homepage.

We need to know which of these fixes can be applied to non-US Windows without breaking things. Most "behind the scene" dlls, like the ACPI and IO-Subsystem would be ok I would guess. Troublesome is everything that has an effect to User applications like the RestoreUI and so.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 01:16 PM

Why Make A Service Pack For Windows ME?

I Used To Like ME Untill I Found Out About Its Horrible DOS Compatibility. So Thats Why I Stick With 95 & 98 For DOS Games

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Posted 10 March 2009 - 02:00 AM

View Postgoodiesguy, on Mar 9 2009, 04:16 PM, said:

Why Make A Service Pack For Windows ME?

I Used To Like ME Untill I Found Out About Its Horrible DOS Compatibility. So Thats Why I Stick With 95 & 98 For DOS Games





lol why do you use XP Pro x86 then lol thats ment to have the worse dos Compatibility
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and windows me has good dos compatibility

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  Posted 10 March 2009 - 02:17 AM

View Postgoodiesguy, on Mar 9 2009, 08:16 PM, said:

Why Make A Service Pack For Windows ME?

I Used To Like ME Untill I Found Out About Its Horrible DOS Compatibility. So Thats Why I Stick With 95 & 98 For DOS Games



ME is not for DOS-Freaks.

ME is a modern Multimedia general purpose OS for a networked multimedia Home or a personal Laptop.

ME is the most evolved Win9x OS and is more stable than 95,98 and SE.

Don't buy the "Me is Beta" phrase that everybody badmouthes ME. The Truth : it shipped with prereleases of IE 5.5 and WMP 7.0, now what's that about - install IE 5.5 final or IE6 and WMP 7.1 or 9 and voila everythings solved. In fact the german ME edition came on two CDROMs : one OS, and one with WMP 7.0 final plus some bonus stuff to satisfy customers. The systemresore bug is a bug indeed, but theres a well-known and available hotfix and afterwards its solved. Systemresore works exactly like in XP and it is very reliable.

It's few glitches can all be worked out, in generally it depends all on compatible Drivers : ME had the same problem as vista - when it came out there were only 98 drivers around, but ME wants WDM only. Otherwise ACPI wont work and system stability is in danger.Another thing to consider is that ME needs a lot of CPU power and RAM. 500 MhZ and far more than 128 MB will work wonders.

ME has capabilities not found elsewhere in win 9x :


  • full ACPI aware: improving cold boot time, pre and post-logon boot times and time required for resuming from hibernation, OS-controlled ACPI S4 sleep state and other power management features without manufacturer-supplied drivers

  • WDM Driver modell throughout the OS, less use of VXDs for more stability. Needed for ACPI to work its magic.

  • Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) instead of TWAIN , still used in XP, support for PICT-Cameras and Scanners ( lots modern devices use this protocol ).

  • Universal Plug and Play ( UpNp) , detects devices on the network automatically.

  • Built in Windows 2000 TCP/IP and NDIS networking stack and architecture, more reliable, full-featured, stable and offered better performance over the 98SE stack .

  • Support for networking over FireWire, IrDA, ( Bluetooth capable with 3rd party drivers like Toshibas famous stack ) a network diagnostic troubleshooter, outstanding Home Networking Wizard which let people share folders,printers or set up a connection-sharing with offline-machines.

  • native USB support for Mass-storage Devices and external CD/DVD devices, better USB-printer support.

  • native Firewire support, for DV-Camcorders and the like (think of the Moviemaker application )

  • far better memory handling than 98SE, especially if more than 256MB Ram is present. Depending on mainboard you wont have to workaround the 512MB - "bug", I have seen PCs with 1GB and ME without any tweak running stable.

  • Windows Management Instrumentation (WMI) , Distributed COM+ ,MDAC and JET database working in background like in XP, mainly used for diagnostic-wizards and the PC-Health services like :

  • SystemRestore, automatic Regstry backups,Signature-Checkers for Files ( ME uses *.CAT files like 2000 and XP ), resulting in System File Protection, automatic recovery of overwritten or deleted core-files ( that's why a Servicepack is hard work, you cannot simply overwrite OS-files with custom ones )

  • Help and Support Center is by far more userfriendly and interesting to use than 98SE's HTMl-Help. You can access the Microsoft Knowledgebase / Support website inside this application. When you click on the support options you get access to DXdiag,Systeminfo, WMI,Dr Watson and all other system-diagnosis tools. Built in wizards and Troubleshooters.

  • Multimedia inside, unseen in any Consumer-OS before : MovieMaker , WMP , Internet Games, DirectX Voice chat,DVD,Onlinestuff, MS Agent "merlin" as your talking OOBE- wizard makes this the total multimedia-Windows out of the Box .
  • DVD player supports software decoding for playback of DVD movies without a dedicated decoder card


Better and feature rich Windows 2000 like Explorer :


  • Image Preview: In Windows Me, images can be viewed by using the Image Preview utility. It allows users to rotate an image, print or zoom in/out an image. Image Preview supports images with .BMP, .DIB, .EMF, .GIF, .JPEG, .PNG, .TIF and .WMF file formats.

  • Compressed Folders: Windows Me includes support for ZIP files through a shell extension known as Compressed Folders; allows users to create, access and extract files from ZIP archives similar to a regular folder in Windows. The user can also restrict access to files with a password.

  • Search facility is integrated into Windows Explorer ( very much like the XP one )

  • Accessibility extras : Onscreen Keyboard,magnifier, Speech .. prettty good for people that need it.


Well.. that's not all, but the topnotch argument to choose this over 98 my friend.

last my own extra Remark : I have a MS wired keyboard 500 with multimedia buttons, pause/play/Home/Favorites/Calc and such..

In Windows 98 and 2000 I need " the Intellitype software" to make them work..

Only In ME and XP they work without any running software at all ;-)

Those little surprises are worth it, believe it or not..

Like I said it is NOT for DOS-freaks..

but for XP-feature seeking and multimedia-loving people on older or less powerful hardware or the need to have games and apps running fast as possible ( I do a lot of Photoshop 7, Poser 5 on a 256MB equipped ME Machine - dont even think of that under XP !). :thumbup


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