[Petr]

erpdude8, on Jan 13 2006, 01:39 PM, said:

eidenk, on Jan 7 2006, 09:36 AM, said:

PS : Off-topic : For some reason I can't manage to view or use forum properly with either IE5.5 or Opera since the latest maintenance but K-meleon works fine.

try using IE 5.5 SP2 eidenk. also avoid using both an IE and a non-IE browser to view MSFN.org forum sites. I did something like that (use IE6 SP1 and Opera 8.51) and either browser cant remember my login user name. stick to using either IE or Opera.

OT: I never used any other browser than Mozilla Suite 1.7, Mozilla Seamonkey 1.0a, Mozilla Seamonkey 1.5a for viewing MSFN forum and I naver had any problem. All browsers can remember my login.

Petr

[Kiki Burgh]

This is in reply to Post # 76:
Hi! This is just my 1st time to post in this forum.
My apologies but I would just like to know if there has been any latest version so far of the unofficial SP for WinME?
Your reply would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
-KIKI-

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Hi "the guy"!
My thanks for the information about the download of a3. I will immediately try this on 1 of my installed OSs, Win ME that is, as soon as I get home.
Hoping more success in any update soon!
Thanks!
-KIKI-



Hi again!
By the way, this may not be the best avenue for this inquiry, however, I would just like to know if there would be anyone who would have downloads that include all the fixes to upgrade Win95b to Win95C?
Likewise, has there been a version for any latest unofficial Win95 SP?
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks again!
-KIKI-

[erpdude8]

Kiki Burgh, on Jan 13 2006, 08:07 PM, said:

Hi again!
By the way, this may not be the best avenue for this inquiry, however, I would just like to know if there would be anyone who would have downloads that include all the fixes to upgrade Win95b to Win95C?
Likewise, has there been a version for any latest unofficial Win95 SP?
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks again!
-KIKI-

I have already answered this question, Kiki. updating win95b to win95c is easy. install osr2 usb supplement patch on top of win95b and make a registry change (you have to run Registry Editor to do that) from B to C. In Registry Editor, go to following registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion
Change "SubVersionNumber" entry from " B" to " C". that is it. now it will be Win95C.

as for unofficial Win95 service pack, it's barely impossible to create one since Win95 is ancient history and barely nobody uses Win95 anymore; plus win95 needs several addons that may not even fit in the pack. Win95 is no longer suitable for today's world and has way too many flaws and so many third party software nowadays require at least Win98 or Win2000.

This post has been edited by erpdude8: 14 January 2006 - 08:27 AM

[erpdude8]

Petr, on Jan 13 2006, 10:50 AM, said:

[
OT: I never used any other browser than Mozilla Suite 1.7, Mozilla Seamonkey 1.0a, Mozilla Seamonkey 1.5a for viewing MSFN forum and I naver had any problem. All browsers can remember my login.

Petr

I meant not using and IE & non-IE browser simultaneously, Petr. as for all web browsers on your machine remembering your login, if you clicked on the checkbox to remember your login then there is no problem.

I dont have that option on (checkbox UNchecked) to remember logins on my machine for security reasons.

I use Mozilla SeaMonkey 1.0 B which came out late December 2005. A final release of Seamonkey 1.0 is scheduled to be due sometime this late January.

I think the ME service pack is progressing more quickly that I expected; too bad the service pack for Win98 Gold isnt like that as the win98 gold service pack 2.01 alpha hasnt been updated for at least 6 months & needs a bunch of new updates/fixes.

This post has been edited by erpdude8: 14 January 2006 - 08:34 AM

[wizardofwindows]

i think any service pack is a bonus because at least 75%of issues are addressed.

[MDGx]

the_guy:

I have discovered a way to install unofficial [packed with Iexpress using SED + INF scripts] WinME patches/fixes/updates directly, without the need for manually disabling System Restore [from Control Panel], or using CoolKill [or similar tool] to kill Stmgr.exe, or using MSCONFIG to disable Statemgr.exe etc... etc...
All you need is run NIRCMD [freeware]:
http://www.nirsoft.n...ils/nircmd.html
to kill the running SR [System Restore] + WFP [Windows File Protection] processes/TSRs/services.
You also need to delete %windir%\WININIT.LOG before attempting to copy any system files to %windir%\SYSTEM or to %windir% .
Optional:
You can also delete the backed up system files from C:\_RESTORE\TEMP [example used in ME912919.EXE patch which installs GDI32.DLL + GDI.EXE = see links further below]:
C:\_RESTORE\TEMP\GDI.0
C:\_RESTORE\TEMP\GDI32.0

This is my ME912919.INF example with necessary nircmd lines [must have START.EXE (from WinME setup CD) + NIRCMD.EXE ( http://www.nirsoft.n...ils/nircmd.html ) in the same directory where the *.INF files reside]:

; ME912919.INF = Unofficial Windows ME GDI32.DLL + GDI.EXE 4.90.3002 Q912919 Security Vulnerability Fix
[Version]
Signature=$CHICAGO$
AdvancedINF=2.0
[DefaultInstall]
DelFiles=LOG,GD0
CopyFiles=GDI,INF
AddReg=RX
UpdateInis=WX
RunPreSetupCommands=WL1
RunPostSetupCommands=WL2
[INF]
@DELWL.INF
[GD0]
GDI.0
GDI32.0
[LOG]
WININIT.LOG
[GDI]
GDI32.DLL
GDI.EXE
[RX]
HKLM,Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RenameFiles\WININIT.LOG,,,%10%
HKLM,Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RenameFiles\WININIT.LOG,WININIT.LOG,,"WININIT.LOG,0"
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx\000","DWL",,"RUNDLL32 %11%\ADVPACK.DLL,LaunchINFSection %17%\@DELWL.INF,DefaultInstall"
[WX]
%10%\WININIT.INI,Rename,,"NUL=%10%\WININIT.LOG"
[WL1]
"START /W NIRCMD killprocess STMGR.EXE"
"START /W NIRCMD killprocess STATEMGR.EXE"
"START /W NIRCMD killprocess RSTRLFN.EXE"
"START /W NIRCMD killprocess RSTRUI.EXE"
"START /W NIRCMD killprocess VXDMON.VXD"
[WL2]
"START /W NIRCMD killprocess STMGR.EXE"
"START /W NIRCMD killprocess STATEMGR.EXE"
"START /W NIRCMD killprocess RSTRLFN.EXE"
"START /W NIRCMD killprocess RSTRUI.EXE"
"START /W NIRCMD killprocess VXDMON.VXD"
[DestinationDirs]
INF=17
LOG=10
GDI=11
GD0=31,_RESTORE\TEMP
WX=10
[SourceDisksNames]
1=,,0

ME912919.INF also uses @DELWL.INF to delete WININIT.LOG after next reboot:

[Version]
Signature=$CHICAGO$
AdvancedINF=2.0
[DefaultInstall]
AddReg=AR
DelFiles=LOG,GD0
[WX]
%10%\WININIT.INI,Rename,,"NUL=%10%\WININIT.LOG"
[AR]
HKLM,Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RenameFiles\WININIT.LOG,,,%10%
HKLM,Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RenameFiles\WININIT.LOG,WININIT.LOG,,"WININIT.LOG,0"
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce","DX0",,"RUNDLL32 %11%\ADVPACK.DLL,LaunchINFSection %17%\@DELWL.INF,DX"
[LOG]
WININIT.LOG
[DX]
DelFiles=LOG,INF
[INF]
@DELWL.INF
[GD0]
GDI.0
GDI32.0
[DestinationDirs]
LOG=10
INF=17
WX=10
GD0=31,_RESTORE\TEMP
[SourceDisksNames]
1=,,0

I use both INFs above to install this patch:
* Unofficial Windows ME Graphics Rendering Engine GDI32.DLL + GDI.EXE build 4.90.3002 Security Vulnerability Fix:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/...n/ms06-001.mspx
Direct download [392 KB, English]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/ME912919.EXE
More info:
http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=46581&st=193

This way I have successfully installed the ME912919.EXE patch on a WinME computer with SR/WFP running [stmgr, statemgr, rstrui, rstrlfn + vxdmon.vxd].
Please try this patch on your WinME computer, and see if it works properly [if it doesn't work, SR will restore old GDI*.* files from backups ].

Hope this helps.

This post has been edited by MDGx: 30 January 2006 - 11:45 PM

[Kiki Burgh]

erpdude8, on Jan 14 2006, 10:14 PM, said:

Kiki Burgh, on Jan 13 2006, 08:07 PM, said:

Hi again!
By the way, this may not be the best avenue for this inquiry, however, I would just like to know if there would be anyone who would have downloads that include all the fixes to upgrade Win95b to Win95C?
Likewise, has there been a version for any latest unofficial Win95 SP?
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks again!
-KIKI-

I have already answered this question, Kiki. updating win95b to win95c is easy. install osr2 usb supplement patch on top of win95b and make a registry change (you have to run Registry Editor to do that) from B to C. In Registry Editor, go to following registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion
Change "SubVersionNumber" entry from " B" to " C". that is it. now it will be Win95C.

as for unofficial Win95 service pack, it's barely impossible to create one since Win95 is ancient history and barely nobody uses Win95 anymore; plus win95 needs several addons that may not even fit in the pack. Win95 is no longer suitable for today's world and has way too many flaws and so many third party software nowadays require at least Win98 or Win2000.

Hi Sir!
My apologies if I asked the same question. You see it was unintentional & I only tried asking about the same thing before you replied as I thought nobody read my question. I think I posted the same message about the same time. Please know that I was already fine with the 1st answer.
Again, no offense meant.
As for the Win95 SP, I was just hinking it there would be somebody out there still tinkering with me. You see, I have all WinOS installed in my multi-boot setup & another set as virtual drives.
I am using all the OSs to be able to come up with tools for troubleshooting, specifically taking screenshots of OS native tools.
Thanks much again!
-KIKI-

This post has been edited by Kiki Burgh: 17 January 2006 - 12:30 AM

[the_guy]

Hey all,

You guys can expect a new version by this weekend. Some things are fixed:

1) System Restore/SFP are automatically disabled before and after the main update.
2) 908519 is added (With the correction required to the QFE info section).
3) Configmg.vxd 4.90.3002 is added
4) Pci.vxd is now version 4.90.3003
5) WUINFO.INF is fixed
6) There is a prompt before uninstall starts

I have a few questions before I release the next version:

1) Should the unofficial updates (krnl386.exe and update.sys) be moved to the SO2.CAB folder (and thus being preserved like the other files)
2) Should the unofficial 912919 update be installed with the main update or the unofficial updates?
3) Should I merge the main update and the unofficial update sections?

the_guy

[suta]

where is the ME pack by this week
TWINKLE TWINKLE LITTLE STAR!
Im Power Puff Girl!

[erpdude8]

the_guy, on Jan 17 2006, 06:43 PM, said:

Hey all,

You guys can expect a new version by this weekend. Some things are fixed:

1) System Restore/SFP are automatically disabled before and after the main update.
2) 908519 is added (With the correction required to the QFE info section).
3) Configmg.vxd 4.90.3002 is added
4) Pci.vxd is now version 4.90.3003
5) WUINFO.INF is fixed
6) There is a prompt before uninstall starts

I have a few questions before I release the next version:

1) Should the unofficial updates (krnl386.exe and update.sys) be moved to the SO2.CAB folder (and thus being preserved like the other files)
2) Should the unofficial 912919 update be installed with the main update or the unofficial updates?
3) Should I merge the main update and the unofficial update sections?

the_guy

Another thing to add is the newer U891711 patch revised 1/5/2006 which fixes a "GlobalMemory" problem that caused performance drops in some computers. please post up the link to the latest ME pack when you are ready, the_guy.

suta, on Jan 22 2006, 12:44 AM, said:

where is the ME pack by this week
TWINKLE TWINKLE LITTLE STAR!
Im Power Puff Girl!

latest release of ME pack isnt quite ready yet. contact the_guy, send him an email and ask him when it will be ready.

Uh, which power puff girl are you, suta? do you even watch that show?

[wizardofwindows]

hes buttercup.

[erpdude8]

Kiki Burgh, on Jan 17 2006, 12:24 AM, said:

Hi Sir!
My apologies if I asked the same question. You see it was unintentional & I only tried asking about the same thing before you replied as I thought nobody read my question. I think I posted the same message about the same time. Please know that I was already fine with the 1st answer.
Again, no offense meant.
As for the Win95 SP, I was just hinking it there would be somebody out there still tinkering with me. You see, I have all WinOS installed in my multi-boot setup & another set as virtual drives.
I am using all the OSs to be able to come up with tools for troubleshooting, specifically taking screenshots of OS native tools.
Thanks much again!
-KIKI-

understandable Kiki (even though we're going a little off topic from WinME SP). First of all there are several versions of Win95; the original, OSR1 [Win95 orig. + SP1], OSR2, OSR2.1 [win95 sr2 + usb supplement], and OSR2.5. There is an official service pack for the original release of Win95 posted at this Microsoft site:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows95/downloa...ck1/Default.asp
so there is no need to make an unofficial win95 SP for the original & osr1 versions. And there are NO win95 OSR2 SPs of any kind since nobody is willing to make one and all support for all editions of Win95 have been ceased several years ago.

[erpdude8]

timeless, on Jan 27 2006, 05:32 AM, said:

hes buttercup.

mou-haha. buttercup. good one, timeless.

time to get back to the topic about the ME service pack.

note to the_guy: be sure to add the Dcom Config tools CISCNFG.EXE & DCOMCNFG.EXE onto the ME pack as well.

This post has been edited by erpdude8: 27 January 2006 - 06:27 AM

[the_guy]

Hey all,

sorry about the delay, I'm fighting a cold and I couldn't get on here for a couple of days.

The dcom configuration tools are being added to the next version. I still have some questions about the unofficial updates, but for now are still in the SUPP.CAB file.

the_guy

[erpdude8]

the_guy, on Jan 28 2006, 10:42 AM, said:

Hey all,

sorry about the delay, I'm fighting a cold and I couldn't get on here for a couple of days.

The dcom configuration tools are being added to the next version. I still have some questions about the unofficial updates, but for now are still in the SUPP.CAB file.

the_guy

you way want to take a few more days off and get well before posting up the ME pack. be sure to add the
Start.exe and Nircmd.exe files into the pack as these are required for shutting down system restore,
sfp & vxdmon before the installation of files from the ME pack. And when removing/un-installing the ME pack,
the Nircmd file must ALSO be used to shutdown sys-restore/SFP before removal of the ME pack so that SFP wont interfere with un-install.

MDGx has posted a newer ME912919 patch that I've downloaded and tested. This one worked to perfection as previous revisions to ME912919 had problems.

[the_guy]

Hey guys,
the cold I was fighting has gone away. I did add the dcom tools erpdude, and I hope that this version works fine. I have decided to call this version beta 1. I will probably have to make an emergency update if there are any new updates for ME released tomorrow.

the link is http://www11.rapidup...epath=6865]here[/url]. It is at RapidUpload.

There are a lot of changes in this version. If anyone finds a bug, let me know.

the_guy

[erpdude8]

nice to see that you are feeling better. I'll try the ME SP when I can. I wont install it on my WinME machine because it has important files. So I will test the ME service pack beta on my next-door neighbor's computer that has WinME as the neighbor does not use it much.

I've made the pchscoff.inf and stmgroff.inf files that will remove the registry entries that will no longer make Pchealth and Statemgr load at startup. this means that SFP will not load at startup and hence better performance for WinME. I've noticed when using WinME for a long time, sometimes Statemgr/SFP hangs at startup, forcing me to restart WinME [guess that's why some people hate ME and recommend dumping ME]. With SFP disabled and not loaded at startup, ME will load faster and have a lesser chance of freezing at startup. Of course, disabling Statemgr/SFP will also disable System restore which is also a good thing because WinME users MUST disable system restore before installing the ME service pack.

Here's what I have in the pchscoff.inf file:

-----
[Version]
signature="$CHICAGO$"
AdvancedINF=2.5

[DefaultInstall]
DelReg=pchsched.reg.del

[pchsched.reg.del]
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run","PCHealth",0,"%10%\PCHealth\Support\PCHSchd.exe -s"
-----

and here's what I have in the stmgroff.inf file:

-----
[Version]
signature="$CHICAGO$"
AdvancedINF=2.5

[DefaultInstall]
DelReg=statemgr.reg.del

[statemgr.reg.del]
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices","*StateMgr",0,"%11%\Restore\StateMgr.exe"
-----

Let me know if you need these two INF files so that they can be included in the next beta of the ME service pack.

This post has been edited by erpdude8: 14 February 2006 - 06:37 AM

[Eck]

Yes, but isn't System File Protection possibly the only improvement that Windows Me has over 98SE? I would think that's the one thing I wouldn't want turned off, except for installing Service Packs and unnofficial updates.

For example, I have the old Topics Complete Classical Music cd set. If I install Mozart (a cd program with the history of Mozart with music and stuff) on Windows Me with State Mgr not loaded, Windows Me is destroyed. (Will not start Windows again, ever. Must format.) I've never been able to figure out what the Mozart installation changes that causes this. 98SE doesn't suffer from this. It suggests changes to AutoExec.bat, but it lets you not make those changes so the problem is not there.

But if I have the normal full StateMgr running, Windows Me is not adversly effected by anything Mozart installs so there is no problem.

I can see turning off System Restore and SFP for the service pack install, but then reinstating it following its use.

Just a suggestion, but I hope this option to reinstate the default behavior is included in some future version of a Windows Me service pack. When I use Windows Me, I usually have followed MDGx's advice to use CoolKill to turn off SFP and also make sure I disable System Restore when installing some of the unnofficial updates as it is the only way to get them installed. But I then restart System Restore and generally have it active when using the operating system.

[the_guy]

You should restart your computer after installing this anyway. After a restart, those processes will be loaded.

New release in a few days to update the unofficial 891711 update (or just install that update)

the_guy

[erpdude8]

Eck, on Feb 14 2006, 10:53 AM, said:

Yes, but isn't System File Protection possibly the only improvement that Windows Me has over 98SE? I would think that's the one thing I wouldn't want turned off, except for installing Service Packs and unnofficial updates.

For example, I have the old Topics Complete Classical Music cd set. If I install Mozart (a cd program with the history of Mozart with music and stuff) on Windows Me with State Mgr not loaded, Windows Me is destroyed. (Will not start Windows again, ever. Must format.) I've never been able to figure out what the Mozart installation changes that causes this. 98SE doesn't suffer from this. It suggests changes to AutoExec.bat, but it lets you not make those changes so the problem is not there.

But if I have the normal full StateMgr running, Windows Me is not adversly effected by anything Mozart installs so there is no problem.

I can see turning off System Restore and SFP for the service pack install, but then reinstating it following its use.

Just a suggestion, but I hope this option to reinstate the default behavior is included in some future version of a Windows Me service pack. When I use Windows Me, I usually have followed MDGx's advice to use CoolKill to turn off SFP and also make sure I disable System Restore when installing some of the unnofficial updates as it is the only way to get them installed. But I then restart System Restore and generally have it active when using the operating system.

My opinion fluctuates with system file protection under ME. sometimes I want SFP on, other times I want it off.

luckily I've made two INF files that turn ON Pchealth and Statemgr:
contents of Pchschon.inf:
-----
[Version]
signature="$CHICAGO$"
AdvancedINF=2.5

[DefaultInstall]
AddReg=pchsched.reg.add

[pchsched.reg.add]
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run","PCHealth",0,"%10%\PCHealth\Support\PCHSchd.exe -s"
-----

contents of Stmgr-on.inf:
-----
[Version]
signature="$CHICAGO$"
AdvancedINF=2.5

[DefaultInstall]
AddReg=statemgr.reg.add

[statemgr.reg.add]
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices","*StateMgr",0,"%11%\Restore\StateMgr.exe"
-----

Mostly, I have SFP enabled on my WinME machine but Pchschd.exe disabled cuz it's kinda useless and slows my system down.

eidenk (who also uses Windows ME) has SFP disabled on his ME computer. I'd like to hear from him and respond to Eck's comments about not turning off SFP.