Aegis Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Why do people do burn-ins on their new computers? What are the benefits of doing burn-ins? Wouldn't the stress affect the hardware life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidSage Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Stress testing your board is more for the OC and system tweak happy looking to squeeze that last drop out of their machine.After changing, these various tests show you what the limit is for stability.On problematic machines, stress tests can help resolve locating a specific piece of hardware that is failing or lagging in performance.You are right about hardware life being affected by these kinds of tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegis Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 So how badly is the hardware life impacted by a typical burn-in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidSage Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Too many factors in the big picture to even give you a guess.Some little tid bits to think on....-Burn ins are llike using a simple LED w/o a resistor. Once the LED get some juice, it will light up bright, get blistering hot and then begin to die. If you take away the power in time, the LED might stil work, but it will be dim and never work as good as it normally would have.-CPU chips are easy to moderately OC because AMD / Intel actually mark their chips at a lower speed than what they really are capable of running at. This is because running a chip near it's limit would kill a chip faster for an avg. PC user. (Now you would think they would be happy with this arrangement since they would get more sales. However, an avg user cares very little about cooling and other details to keep the chip in good shape. The end result would be chips dying more often while they are under warranty.) -You can actually kill a brand new HD / vid card / CPU doing a burn in (This is why programs of this type show extra big warnings that they are not responsible for the likely cause of damage.)-Stress causes heat so cooling is essential to survive hard burn in's and OC'ing while still maintain a close to normal shelf life for the component. This is why some go to the distance with cooling.(H2O pumps, huge lapped copper heatsinks with heatpipes, 60000+ rpm fans)-Stress test, burn in,.....the names speak for themselves....Are you thinking about doing this? What for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripken204 Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 i think your confused LiquidSage. burning-in is running your cpu on low voltage in hope to stabalize it at that lower voltage. this allows you more room to pump up your voltage later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oofki Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 After every build at work we do a burn in. We do not set it up to the more stressful in ever catagory but we do run it at about 50-75%. This is just to try and catch bad hardware before we give it to the customer. Hard drives and motherboards are the most frequent things to go bad and they can even be bad brand new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegis Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 I was just wondering because I'm building a computer that will have to last a long while (5 years), so I'm trying to get the best deal possible out of my hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtwarrior Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 A burn in is very simular to breaking in a brand new car. You cant hot rod one right away. It is a good idea to have a 24 hour burn in on a new computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripken204 Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 well let us know how much money and we'll try to get you set up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidSage Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 (edited) As a vendor/ builder, or avid OC'er a burn in would make sense to do for specific puposes. As an avg user, it really is not of that much use esp when they don't even know what to do with the results. I'm not saying they are bad, I'm just saying burn in's do shorten a product's life, esp when done often. That is a simple fact.You 'burn in' your car brakes, to break em in when they are new, but doing it after that certainly isn't going to help them last any longer...they just wear out quicker.Also, there is a lot of burn in software to choose from and a good number let the test go for an unlimited amount of time. So if you are not babysitting the entire time, you can burn-out whatever you were testing since the software doesn't care if the item get fried during the test, unless it's good softwarwe that monitors the full range of sensors in the system. HD's would be a good example of that. Edited November 30, 2005 by LiquidSage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegis Posted December 1, 2005 Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 Do you guys recommend any software for memory, processor, video card, etc. that gives complete and thorough information, but doesn't tax the hardware too much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripken204 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 information? what you mean by that? everest home edition will tell you alot about your hardware. for testing stuff use prime95,memtest,superPi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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