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#51 User is offline   plop 

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Posted 09 December 2005 - 06:13 AM

Thanks, eidenk,

Just to clarify, I'm installing the 98SP 2.1a onto the existing, previously installed, 98SP and 98SE2ME upgrades.

Most version conflict files refer to WinME files, version 4.90.3000 etc.; plus hh.exe, hhsetup.dll, etc.; and mouhid.vxd, vip.386.


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Posted 09 December 2005 - 09:52 AM

I installed your sesp21a-en.exe

And my 2nd windows98 wouln't boot up.

Luckily I have SYSTEM COMMANDER 7.03(SC7)and 3 OS's installed.
I.- 98SE_A admin/CD Burning/Audio editing/NO Network
II.- 98SE_B Internet and Gaming
III.- XP just to stay Modern, LOL

1.-After reboot SC7, recognised it as a DOS system and it wouln't boot from it
2.-I loaded the 98SE_A and noticed that the IO.SYS in my 98SE_B was gone, I had a IO.001,
which i copied "Copy of IO.001" and renamed the IO.001 to IO.SYS, rebooted.
3.- This time SC7, recognised it as a "Windows 98" system, not Windows 98SE But I could finally boot from it.
4.- I copied my 98SE_A's IO.SYS on top of the 98SE_B's IO.SYS, and rebboted.
5.- This time SC7, recognised it as a "Windows 98SE" system, all back to normal. :-)

I hope this helps anyone that might had a similar problem.

And Gape thks a lot to keep Win98 alive. THKS a million.

BTW i can even Play, Tactical Ops, NFS underground 2, Unreal Tournament 2004, thks to You all, and my tweaking of course.

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Posted 09 December 2005 - 10:13 AM

@plop:

This is a normal situation. Because 982ME installs some newer WinME files. I think keeping newer files is a good idea.

But you can re-install latest 98SE2ME after installing 98SESP to make sure that everything is OK.

mamas6667:

Thanks for the info.

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Posted 09 December 2005 - 09:46 PM

plop, on Dec 9 2005, 05:13 AM, said:

Just to clarify, I'm installing the 98SP 2.1a onto the existing, previously installed, 98SP and 98SE2ME upgrades.

Most version conflict files refer to WinME files, version 4.90.3000 etc.; plus hh.exe, hhsetup.dll, etc.; and mouhid.vxd, vip.386.

Like Gape said, 98SE2ME installs newer versions of system files from WinME setup CD or even newer WinME hotfixes [patched files].
Please see READ1ST.TXT for details [the "FAQ" chapter, where it starts with: "* 98SE2ME does NOT interfere with Gape's Windows 98 SE Service Pack 2 (SP2):"]:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/READ1ST.TXT
Full list of files replaced by 98SE2ME is here:
http://www.mdgx.com/98-5.htm#FME

If you installed HH.EXE, HHSETUP.DLL, HHCTRL.OCX, ITIRCL.DLL + ITSS.DLL from my older unofficial HHUPD.EXE update [which I have recently replaced with newer files update], and then if you try to install the official one from:
http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#HHU
the newer files will not be overwritten, and you may have to replace them yourself by hand.
They go to:
- %windir% [usually C:\WINDOWS]:
HH.EXE
- %windir%\SYSTEM [usually C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM]:
HHSETUP.DLL
HHCTRL.OCX
ITIRCL.DLL
ITSS.DLL

If this is the case, make sure you register them properly [after you copy them to proper directories = see above] by running this batch file:
ECHO OFF
%windir%\SYSTEM\REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\HHCTRL.OCX
%windir%\SYSTEM\REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\ITSS.DLL
%windir%\SYSTEM\REGSVR32 /S %windir%\SYSTEM\ITIRCL.DLL
EXIT


MOUHID.VXD is not replaced [nor installed] by 98SE2ME.

Newer VIP.386 [build 4.10.2227] is installed by 98SE2ME options 1 + 2.
VIP.386 4.10.2227 is also installed by Maximus-Decim's NUSB:
http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=43605

Hope this helps.

This post has been edited by MDGx: 10 December 2005 - 05:21 AM


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Posted 10 December 2005 - 02:56 AM

View PostMDGx, on Dec 10 2005, 04:46 AM, said:

MOUHID.VXD is not replaced [nor installed] by 98SE2ME.

Newer VIP.386 [build 4.10.2227] is installed by 98SE2ME options 1 + 2.
VIP.386 4.10.2227 is also installed by Maximus-Decim's NUSB:
http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=43605

MOUHID.VXD - this was the problem of improper version number 4.10.2223.0 (in Intellipoint 4.12) instead of 4.10.0.2223 (in Q254660) stored in the file. These files are otherwise identical, just version 4.10.0.2223 is correct.


NUSB22 does not contain VIP.386 file.

Do you know what is the origin of this 4.10.2227 version? You wrote in http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/READ1ST.TXT "patched Win98 SE VIP.386 4.10.2227 modded by Maximus-Decim" but the file has too many differences to be just modded - at least in my opinion.

Petr

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Posted 10 December 2005 - 05:31 AM

Petr, on Dec 10 2005, 01:56 AM, said:

NUSB22 does not contain VIP.386 file.

Do you know what is the origin of this 4.10.2227 version? You wrote in http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/READ1ST.TXT "patched Win98 SE VIP.386 4.10.2227 modded by Maximus-Decim" but the file has too many differences to be just modded - at least in my opinion.

Petr
My bad, VIP.386 4.10.2227 is actually installed by Maximus-Decim's Cumulative Update:
http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=50611
not by NUSB.
I have no idea where he got that file, I couldn't find any reference to it at Microsoft web site, so I assumed he [or someone else] modded the older VIP.386 4.10.2226 from Q259728. [?]

This post has been edited by MDGx: 10 December 2005 - 05:34 AM


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Posted 10 December 2005 - 06:17 AM

View PostMDGx, on Dec 10 2005, 12:31 PM, said:

I have no idea where he got that file, I couldn't find any reference to it at Microsoft web site, so I assumed he [or someone else] modded the older VIP.386 4.10.2226 from Q259728. [?]


If you binary compare them, version 4.10.2227 is so different to 4.10.2226 (and 4.10.2224) that it does not look like simple modding. What versions exist?
Q238329 3.8.1999 14:50 4.10.2223
Q238453 23.9.1999 11:39 4.10.2224
Q242962 1.10.1999 17:38 4.10.2225
Q259728 10.5.2000 13:20 4.10.2226
Q?????? 9.8.2000 15:27 4.10.2227
Q329128 1.8.2002 12:27 4.10.2228 (not available)

So it looks like 4.10.2227 COULD be original file from Microsoft.

Petr

This post has been edited by Petr: 10 December 2005 - 06:18 AM


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Posted 10 December 2005 - 10:11 AM

Original version Q269388 with vip.386 4.10.2227

http://rapidshare.de...88USA8.exe.html

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 10:32 AM

View Postswgreed, on Dec 8 2005, 02:47 PM, said:

View Postshaddam, on Dec 7 2005, 03:55 PM, said:

the pulldown menu for the font size is empty, but the font size is changeable through the edit field


anybody else, who can confim this? This issue does not seem to appear here
did you comply with the install guide?



no... simply over sp2.1. Route : SP 1.6, sp16.2 ..., sp2.0 , sp2.1, sp2.1a ;)

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 12:59 PM

dsound.dll (again)

installing the SP2.1a after DirectX9c (as recommended) with the following line
DSOUND.DLL,,DSOUND.TMP,4

in the update.inf, makes the SP overwrite the new dsound.dll (4.09) from DirectX9c with the old one (4.07) from the SP :(
DxDiag also recognizes the deprecated file and recommends the reinstallation of DirectX9c

Is there an alternative installation method?
maybe another number than ",4"

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 01:10 PM

View Postswgreed, on Dec 12 2005, 09:59 PM, said:

Is there an alternative installation method?
maybe another number than ",4"

Use ",32"

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 01:45 PM

View Postswgreed, on Dec 12 2005, 07:59 PM, said:

maybe another number than ",4"


Here is complete list of numbers:
http://www.winpack.o...eb/copyfile.htm

You can combine them, e.g. 1024 + 4 = 1028, 1024 + 32 = 1056 etc.

Petr

Edit: new URL

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 04:48 PM

View PostGape, on Dec 12 2005, 08:10 PM, said:

Use ",32"


thanks a lot.
also for the "copyfile"-link@Petr

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  Posted 13 December 2005 - 01:00 AM

Thank you so much for the terrific work. Win98SE was unable to download new updates until applying the Unofficial Win98 SE SP -- works fine again now. Sent you a donation. Awesome .. thank you!!!!!!! :thumbup

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Posted 14 December 2005 - 07:09 AM

Maximus-Decim:
Many thanks for the VIP.386 4.10.2227 hotfix.

BTW...
Found it also here:

Microsoft Windows 98/98 SE HP Omnibook Portable Computer Docking Error VIP.386 (build 4.10.2002 for Win98/98 SP1 + build 4.10.2227 for Win98 SE) Fix:
http://www.martini-man.com/pub/HPOmnibook/...9388/README.TXT
Direct download [189 KB, English]:
http://www.martini-man.com/pub/HPOmnibook/.../269388USA8.EXE

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Posted 14 December 2005 - 05:17 PM

REGARDING MY problem

I installed your sesp21a-en.exe
And my 2nd windows98 wouln't boot up
IO.SYS was corrupted etc..................

The file I downloaded from Rapidshare (i think) was corrupt evnthough it passed the MD5 and WINRAR test.
The SP2.CAB was corrupt the rest OK!

So I got a new copy from Majorgeeks. And this time everything went all right!! :-)
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I did a complete reinstall of windows.

The only problem is that I lost my "shortcut arrows" on links after I installed 98SE2ME Option 2 (700 WinME system files ) after SP2.1a, and I want them Back!!

I know that if I install Option 3 [Windows Graphical User Interface (GUI),
Shell + Browser Integration Controls + APIs]
I will be able to see the arrows again.
But I don't want to because option 3, slows down my windows responsivenes, believe or not!

So how do I get the "shortcut arrows" back!!!


PLs help me.


Thks to the whole team for their efforts in keeping windows 98SE alive, and running faster than any other OS!!

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Posted 14 December 2005 - 06:19 PM

@mamas6667

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So how do I get the "shortcut arrows" back!!!

Install TweakUI if you haven't do so and then go in Control Panel/TweakUI/Explorer/Shortcut Overlay. Tick the appropriate radio button. Click OK. Log-off or reboot. Arrows should be back.

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Posted 15 December 2005 - 10:21 AM

Sorry Tweak UI 1.33 was not able to solve my problem!

I think there has to be another solution, and i'm sure this is happened before to some of you!

It happens to me every single time I install the 98se2ME option 2.

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Posted 15 December 2005 - 10:46 AM

View Postmamas6667, on Dec 15 2005, 04:21 PM, said:

It happens to me every single time I install the 98se2ME option 2.


For this reason, you should post your question in the 98SE2ME thread.

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Posted 15 December 2005 - 11:20 AM

mamas6667, on Dec 14 2005, 04:17 PM, said:

The only problem is that I lost my "shortcut arrows" on links after I installed 98SE2ME Option 2 (700 WinME system files ) after SP2.1a, and I want them Back!!

I know that if I install Option 3 [Windows Graphical User Interface (GUI),
Shell + Browser Integration Controls + APIs]
I will be able to see the arrows again.
But I don't want to because option 3, slows down my windows responsivenes, believe or not!

So how do I get the "shortcut arrows" back!!!


PLs help me.


Thks to the whole team for their efforts in keeping windows 98SE alive, and running faster than any other OS!!
Hi,

Thanks for using 98SE2ME.
Hope you like it.

This issue is detailed in 98SE2ME READ1ST.TXT:
http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/READ1ST.TXT
under the "98SE2ME.PIF COMPLETE GUIDE" chapter. Quoted fragment:

Quote

- patched Registry entry: properly remove Desktop Icons Overlay [superimposed
small arrows]when using TweakUI [Explorer tab -> Shortcut overlay -> None or
Custom] or similar tweaking tools:
http://www.mdgx.com/toy.htm#SYS
after installing Win98 SE SHELL32.DLL 4.72.3812.600 Security Vulnerability
Fix:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/...n/ms02-014.mspx
Direct download [834 KB]:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie4...-US/q313829.exe

-----Begin cut & paste here-----
REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\CLASSES\CLSID\{63B51F81-C868-11D0-999C-00C04FD655E1}\InProcServer32]
@=""

------End cut & paste here------

How to restore original Registry value [this will display Desktop Icons
Overlay for ALL shortcuts]: copy + paste text between cut & paste lines
below into Notepad or similar plain text editor/viewer and save it as
OVERLAY.REG (example):

-----Begin cut & paste here-----
REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\CLASSES\CLSID\{63B51F81-C868-11D0-999C-00C04FD655E1}\InProcServer32]
@="C:\\WINDOWS\\SYSTEM\\SHELL32.DLL"

------End cut & paste here------

Then run OVERLAY.REG.
Modify C:\\WINDOWS above to match your actual Windows folder name and/or
drive/partition letter if different on your computer(s).
Restore NOT necessary because original Registry value BUGgy.
More info [see 3rd FIX]:
http://www.mdgx.com/98-5.htm#PSBF

I have added this REG tweak to 98SE2ME because most of the people I know do not want to see those arrows on their desktops. ;)

BTW:
Please post all your comments/bugs/problems/etc related to 98SE2ME in the 98SE2ME forum:
http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=46349

Hope this helps.

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