[PROBLEMCHYLD]

prowler, on 18 October 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:

PROBLEMCHYLD, on 18 October 2012 - 08:59 AM, said:

3.9 Main Updates option will require at least a 128 mb of ram.

Why so much?

I don't want another issue like this, when people don't follow instructions

ElementalChaos, on 17 October 2012 - 04:49 PM, said:

How do I remove this pack? It's made my computer extremely laggy. If it matters, unfortunately my computer cannot boot from CDs.

ElementalChaos, on 17 October 2012 - 05:13 PM, said:

I used 3.8.
I installed the base additions and some other things.
My computer specs are NOT sufficent, I just learned. I only have 40MB of Ram. But that's not an issue, I just want it to go back to how it was. My parents won't let me buy a floppy drive for it.

ElementalChaos, on 17 October 2012 - 05:32 PM, said:

Can someone just tell me if there's a way to uninstall that doesn't involve backups or booting from CD or floppies?

ElementalChaos, on 17 October 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

Im crying right now PLEASE TELL ME THERES A WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kelsenellenelvian]

ElementalChaos, on 17 October 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

PROBLEMCHYLD, on 17 October 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

ElementalChaos, on 17 October 2012 - 05:32 PM, said:

Can someone just tell me if there's a way to uninstall that doesn't involve backups or booting from CD or floppies?

Sorry, but no. The uninstall feature was removed by the original creator. This is why its stated in the readme to backup. This is why people should read before continuing. Im sorry for your troubles.

Im crying right now PLEASE TELL ME THERES A WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MAYBE you should have read the instructions....

Aaaaaaand I QUOTE:

Quote

Before installing U98SESP3.EXE make sure that:
1/ You have the original w98SE installation disc.
It will change core system files. It means that if something goes wrong you must be prepared to reinstall windows from the beginning.
Sometimes installing U98SESP3.EXE after a fresh install is working normaly while it failed on an old install.
2/ You made a back up of all important datas.
It's extremely unlikely that an error forces you to reinstall windows and eventualy to reformat thus to erase your hard drive.
But for the sake of safety, please do it!
3/ You made a back up of your system files
A copy of the "windows" and "Program Files" directories, at least the "windows" directory, preferably on a second physical hard drive or on CD or DVD or an external drive.
This is usefull to revert back to a prior w98se install which was already updated and functioning well.
Restoring windows 98 can be done simply be recopying all the system files back to their original location, in dos mode. The easiest way is to use a second physical (not a partition) and internal (not USB) hard drive.
It's aslo a good idea to make sure a copy of the registry has been automaticaly preserved in the system files you backed up and to know how to restore the registry in dos: boot in DOS, then type SCANREG /RESTORE.
4/ You have time and patience to read all the instructions
If you are somebody who will select all options no matter what they are or who will click "OK" instead of "Cancel" on any dialog box without knowing what was the question about, then you are sure to run into trouble.
Don't do it in a rush. If words are written on the screen it must be important. Please read them.
5/ You have read the disclaimer below.

Disclaimer:

The author and owner of this website as well as the owner of the server hosting this website and all the persons having been involved in the creation or the distribution of the files, updates and executables present on this website will not be responsible for any material damage, loss of hardware performance or functionality, alteration or loss of datas, theft of datas, exposure of classified documents, loss of privacy, penalty, material or financial depreciation or loss or liability or any other loss or damage or liability of any kind caused by the use or inability to use these files, updates or executables.

They are delivered to You for free, as is and without any warranty attached beyond those already described in the agreements between You and their authors or vendors if any. You understand that most of them doesn't come with any warranty at all and that there is no garantee that they will work on your computer as advertised.
Moreover you agree to use each of them with respect to the user agreement provided by their author if any.

Use at you own risk.

More specificaly, You understand that the author and the other persons who participate in its creation, promote, advice to use, or distribute the Unofficial Windows 98SE service pack (U98SESP3) known as U98SESP3 or as U98SESP3.EXE or any other denomination used for translated versions or further updated versions, as well as Microsoft Corporation or any other party directly or indirectly concerned will not be liable for any damage, loss of software or hardware functionality or performance, loss of datas, loss of time, loss of money or any loss or liability of any kind caused by the use or inability to use U98SESP3.

You understand that U98SESP3 is not a product of Microsoft Corporation and not a product of a commercial company, that's it's developed and distributed as is, benevolently, unofficialy (althought legaly) and freely without any guarantee attached, without any promise of support, that there is no guarantee whatsoever that it will work as advertised and that you use it at your own risk and in full consciouseness of the risks attached to an unofficial service pack for an operating system.

Before installing U98SESP3 You are supposed to have made all the necessary steps to saveguard your datas and be able to reinstall an operating system as described in, but no exclusively the important notice above and to have the technical knowledge and ability to fix computer related problems in the case U98SESP3 will prevent your computer to work properly.
These necessary steps consist in, but no exclusively:
- Having the original w98SE installation disc
- Makiing a back up of all important datas
- Making a back up of the system files
- Having a back up of the registry

Before, during and after the installation you are supposed to read CAREFULY all the instructions you get through dialog box messages, dos prompt messages or otherwise.
You are also supposed to understand these instructions and have the appropriate knowledge to act accordingly and to select the appropriate options if any.

U98SESP3 and all other versions or translations of it are distributed for free, without any profit for the author(s) and for the distributors.
U98SESP3 cannot be distributed in exchange for money or any other liability.
You have the right to distribute U98SESP3 to the legaly binding conditions that you do not charge any amount of money or make any profit directly or indirectly, that you distribute an unmodified version and always the latest version available on this website or from the author's website if any.

This post has been edited by Kelsenellenelvian: 19 October 2012 - 04:02 AM

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

Kelsenellenelvian, on 19 October 2012 - 03:47 AM, said:

MAYBE you should have read the instructions....

Thanks Kel
I don't think some will ever get it. The first thing people do is skip over the instructions and then want to complain when something goes wrong. Its not like I change the instructions every update. One, only has to read them once. And, if something needs specifying, I will make sure its done. I prefer people like you, dencorso, Foxbat, jaclaz and others to mediate for me. Sometimes I just can't handle it. I have gotten better though. Thanks guys.

[Foxbat]

Maybe we can stress this part a little more so even if everything else is ignored, just reading only the words in red will hopefully reduce the most frequently reoccurring problem.

Before installing the Unofficial Windows 98SE service pack, please

BACKUP YOUR DATA.

This is not a suggestion.

THIS IS MANDATORY.

If you have not backed up and verified your data,

DO NOT PROCEED UNTIL YOU
BACKUP YOUR DATA.

But, somehow, somewhere, someone will still ignore even this simple message.

Edited for better fit.

This post has been edited by Foxbat: 19 October 2012 - 08:29 PM

[dencorso]

Foxbat, on 19 October 2012 - 08:26 PM, said:

BACKUP YOUR DATA.

This is not a suggestion.

THIS IS MANDATORY.

[loblo]

Foxbat, on 19 October 2012 - 08:26 PM, said:

Before installing the Unofficial Windows 98SE service pack, please

BACKUP YOUR DATA.

This is not a suggestion.

THIS IS MANDATORY.

If you have not backed up and verified your data,

DO NOT PROCEED UNTIL YOU
BACKUP YOUR DATA.

I guess this would make a good splash screen for the installer but then I also guess it may frighten people to the point of not installing the SP altogether.

This post has been edited by loblo: 19 October 2012 - 10:48 PM

[Foxbat]

That message comes to mind every time I ask someone to backup, only to see them return later saying that they haven't and all hell has broken loose. I think I should change my suggestive tone to a stern, raw and uncut mandatory order, that, if not followed, will cause the Earth to implode. Hey, it worked for hard drives and magnets. But joking aside, loblo's right that is will certainly lessen the service pack's user base at a time when the OS has lost most of its users. At the very least, this should raise a few eyebrows and spotlight a common problem, until the post becomes buried inside the biggest thread of the 9x forum.

[4js]

thx for 3.9

[Dave-H]

Yes, thanks PROBLEMCHYLD!

You need to change the date in your signature, it still says the last update was Sept 23rd.

[jaclaz]

In case of need, the THREE "Golden Rules":

jaclaz said:

There is ONLY one way to keep data safe, and it is called REDUNDANCY, the three Golden Rules of Backup:

• Backup
  
• Backup again (on another media
  
• After considering the philosophy of the above two points, BACKUP AGAIN!

jaclaz

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

Dave-H, on 22 October 2012 - 11:16 AM, said:

Yes, thanks PROBLEMCHYLD!

You need to change the date in your signature, it still says the last update was Sept 23rd.

Thanks, Dave-H
Hope you guys enjoy 3.9. I'm banking on it, that hopefully it will be a solid and stable release.

[MrIBM98]

I installed 3.9 and I noticed that after I installed Microsoft PLUS! for Windows 98 (After I finished the last step in the read me) some system programs got there file extensions changed. Such as Theme.exe, tuneup.exe and Theme.cpl got changed to Themeexe.W98, tuneupexe.W98 and themecpl.W98 Also the start up Logo.sys and the Logow.sys files were renamed to Logo.W98 and Logow.W98 Respectively. Needless to say this broke all of the shortcuts to those files and reverted the boot up screen to the original Windows 98 one. After renaming all the .W98 files to there original extensions files they worked fine. These are the only files that could be found with a .W98 extension.

Thank you for this, it really has helped all of my Windows 98 machines with there overall stability.

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

MrIBM98, on 23 October 2012 - 08:39 PM, said:

Thank you for this, it really has helped all of my Windows 98 machines with there overall stability.

Thank you

[TmEE]

I spoke too soon about the MS-Paint version getting dowgraded bf graphics filters. It is the main updates that do it.

Other than that 3.9 has been rock solid !

[maxmaxtorix]

I must to say that this is a great project I want to see something similar for 95 and ME.
However I want to ask something else:
Why you don't include updates released in Windows Security 2004 CD for Windows 98 SE in your Unofficial Service Pack how Windows version can be automatically changed to 4.10.2222B.

For example I've used that cd together with unofficial service pack 3.8 and everything works great.



P.S. I've original iso so if you are interested pm me.

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

maxmaxtorix, on 27 October 2012 - 01:46 PM, said:

I must to say that this is a great project I want to see something similar for 95 and ME.
However I want to ask something else:
Why you don't include updates released in Windows Security 2004 CD for Windows 98 SE in your Unofficial Service Pack how Windows version can be automatically changed to 4.10.2222B.

For example I've used that cd together with unofficial service pack 3.8 and everything works great.



P.S. I've original iso so if you are interested pm me.

All the updates that are included on the CD are already included in SP3.x The only ones that are not included are
Internet Explorer 6 SP1
DirectX 9.0b
Windows Media Player 9
.Net Framework

Those updates alone will triple the size of SP3.x. Not everyone uses Windows Media Player 9 and Internet Explorer 6 SP1.

[maxmaxtorix]

PROBLEMCHYLD, on 27 October 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

maxmaxtorix, on 27 October 2012 - 01:46 PM, said:

I must to say that this is a great project I want to see something similar for 95 and ME.
However I want to ask something else:
Why you don't include updates released in Windows Security 2004 CD for Windows 98 SE in your Unofficial Service Pack how Windows version can be automatically changed to 4.10.2222B.

For example I've used that cd together with unofficial service pack 3.8 and everything works great.


P.S. I've original iso so if you are interested pm me.

All the updates that are included on the CD are already included in SP3.x The only ones that are not included are
Internet Explorer 6 SP1
DirectX 9.0b
Windows Media Player 9
.Net Framework

Those updates alone will triple the size of SP3.x. Not everyone uses Windows Media Player 9 and Internet Explorer 6 SP1.

Why then Service pack not change revision from "A" to "B"?
Maybe some registry keys or inf file aren't installed properly ?

This post has been edited by maxmaxtorix: 27 October 2012 - 07:16 PM

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

maxmaxtorix, on 27 October 2012 - 07:15 PM, said:

Why then Service pack not change revision from "A" to "B"?
Maybe some registry keys or inf file aren't installed properly ?

There is no need for it. From what I can tell, SP3.x installs all infs correctly.

[jumper]

I just googled "4.10.2222B" and learned that it has caused installation problems for a number of apps, so that registry change is to be avoided.

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

TmEE, on 27 October 2012 - 01:14 PM, said:

I spoke too soon about the MS-Paint version getting dowgraded bf graphics filters. It is the main updates that do it.

Other than that 3.9 has been rock solid !

I'm still not understanding your issue with the older paint program. Please give us step by step instructions, so we can try and reproduce the error/problem.

jumper, on 27 October 2012 - 11:10 PM, said:

I just googled "4.10.2222B" and learned that it has caused installation problems for a number of apps, so that registry change is to be avoided.

Thanks, but I had no intentions whatsoever in changing it

This post has been edited by PROBLEMCHYLD: 28 October 2012 - 02:21 PM