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#1261 User is offline   PROBLEMCHYLD 

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 01:35 PM

View Postaurgathor, on 21 April 2012 - 12:27 PM, said:

Actually, it does. ;) It happened because I accidentally checked "Win95 shell swap" :rolleyes:
I guess I shouldn't be installing SW in the wee hours.... :angel
Well, I have already removed the shell swap option in the final build.

This post has been edited by PROBLEMCHYLD: 21 April 2012 - 03:59 PM



#1262 User is offline   Fredledingue 

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 04:41 PM

We will soon be hosting 98sesp3.exe on the website again.
...with enhanced safety.

PROBLEMCHYLD, check your PMs for more infos, please.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 06:13 PM

View PostFredledingue, on 21 April 2012 - 04:41 PM, said:

We will soon be hosting 98sesp3.exe on the website again.
...with enhanced safety.

PROBLEMCHYLD, check your PMs for more infos, please.
Thanks Fred :thumbup

I have been testing the MDAC option and it must be installed separately. There is no work around or fix. I have done about 4 installations today. Mdac will corrupt the registry if its not installed by itself. I am done, the final version is finished. I will test some more after I eat dinner.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 01:20 PM

View PostFredledingue, on 20 April 2012 - 02:31 PM, said:

Problemchyld,
Just like that: Try to set a "wait" time (or delay) in the installation script.
Maybe the computer needs a rest, or need to finish a task even if this task is reportedly finished.

In DOS you can run wait.exe, a small executable which does only that.
3 independant versions here:
http://www.createwin...te/rae-watx.htm
You are right Fred. I will need to add the small file plus command. I should add the Start /W Wait 4 after every option right or do I add it before?

#1265 User is offline   Fredledingue 

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 02:35 PM

PROB'
I'v uploaded a wait.exe where you know. ;)

I would add the wait command after an option (I mean a package) is installed and before starting the next one.
But not between each of them. Only those who looks heavy or seems to slow down the process.

I think there is a wait.exe present in more recent versions of windows but I'm not sure of that.
There are also files named sleep.exe for the same purpose.

Do not use the "ping" trick often mentioned on forums, and which consist in calling or pinging an IP address, because this method uses a lot of resources, even possibly 100% of CPU!

I suggest to echo "please wait 4 seconds..." (if applicable) so that users know what's going on.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 03:01 PM

All I need to do is add the wait commands in the inf files.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 06:37 PM

I tried one of the WAIT programs, the results are the same. I think what I need is a program that frees up memory. When you select
all options I'm sure the memory takes a huge leak when installing mdac. All other files installs without any issues. The WAIT program did ok, but all it did was prolong the installation about an extra 85 seconds. Someone please recommend a freeware memory tool.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 06:43 PM

I put together a simple script to install multiple Windows Updates at one time. I found it was necessary to avoid having more than one running at the same time for at least some of them.
I wrote a Program called WAITFOR that will not return control back to the Script until the Executable it calls terminates. This insures that they do not overlap.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:54 PM

I used the Start /W Wait 15 secs and still no luck. It only happens with MDAC. But if I can't find a fix, everyone will just have to install it separately from the other options.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 04:25 AM

View PostPROBLEMCHYLD, on 22 April 2012 - 07:54 PM, said:

I used the Start /W Wait 15 secs and still no luck. It only happens with MDAC. But if I can't find a fix, everyone will just have to install it separately from the other options.

I see absolutely no problem with having to install MDAC separately.
Please don't delay the release of the final build just to resolve this "problem", as it's easily worked around!
:)

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 06:47 AM

View PostDave-H, on 23 April 2012 - 04:25 AM, said:

View PostPROBLEMCHYLD, on 22 April 2012 - 07:54 PM, said:

I used the Start /W Wait 15 secs and still no luck. It only happens with MDAC. But if I can't find a fix, everyone will just have to install it separately from the other options.

I see absolutely no problem with having to install MDAC separately.
Please don't delay the release of the final build just to resolve this "problem", as it's easily worked around!
:)
I'm not going to delay the release, that would be selfish.
Although some people might feel once they have the final version, there will no need to find a solution.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 08:58 AM

Bear in mind that a memory cleaner can be pretty slow too.
In my case it was almost faster to restart the PC than whiping the memory.

I don't know how the INF scripts work but they should wait for one process to finish before starting the next one. That would be logical. Adding a wait command adds only an extra safety against lock ups.
But with MDAC it's not a problem about that.
The most radical way would be to install MDAC between two reboots.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 09:26 AM

View PostFredledingue, on 23 April 2012 - 08:58 AM, said:

Bear in mind that a memory cleaner can be pretty slow too.
In my case it was almost faster to restart the PC than whiping the memory.

I don't know how the INF scripts work but they should wait for one process to finish before starting the next one. That would be logical. Adding a wait command adds only an extra safety against lock ups.
But with MDAC it's not a problem about that.
The most radical way would be to install MDAC between two reboots.
I have made notice about MDAC in the new update. You can actually install (ALL) options except MDAC without any errors.
If someone does get errors, its probably from not following instructions. Now that the Service Pack is done, I will add all the software I use to my own copy of the service pack. I really enjoyed working on this. I'm ready for a new task. Will upload new version later today.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 01:28 PM

How much ram did you have when you got this error?
Maybe one can try to find out the ram requirement for SESP3+MDAC...

We can propose a second link to MDAC just to make sure it's not installed at the same time.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 01:32 PM

View PostFredledingue, on 23 April 2012 - 01:28 PM, said:

How much ram did you have when you got this error?
Maybe one can try to find out the ram requirement for SESP3+MDAC...

We can propose a second link to MDAC just to make sure it's not installed at the same time.
512 MB

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:34 PM

The Final update is here. Thanks to MSFN and all its members. This has been a great experience for me.
I have learned many things along the way that will follow me for the rest of my life.
Please take the time to fully read and understand the homepage for the service pack.
Any questions can be posted here and will be answered here. Please note, (ALL) other versions before FINAL are obsolete.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:47 PM

Congrats on a great and useful project, guys Posted Image

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:55 PM

Thanks PROBLEMCHYLD for all the effort and the "final result" ! ... also thanks to everyone that helped you along the way.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 06:44 PM

Downloaded. This will be so much fun to work with this week! Thanks problemchyld and all you guys who share all the fantastic knowledge.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:00 PM

Thank you problemchyld. I really appreciate your effort.

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