[PROBLEMCHYLD]

Some more great news I was able to edit the AVI file from version 3.0 to read Service Pack 3. I thought this would be ideal because then I don't have to keep changing the version number. Here's what I did, I loaded the 3.0 AVI file in VirtualDub 1.9, save it as an animated GIF file. After that, loaded the GIF file with MSPAINT.EXE, removed the .0. Reloaded the modded GIF file back in VirtualDub 1.9 and saved it as an AVI file. I think the artwork gives it a more professional look even thought we know it not professional. If somone can be so kind and maybe replace the text Microsoft with Unofficial. I have no idea and don't want to mess with it anymore.

This post has been edited by PROBLEMCHYLD: 28 November 2012 - 02:16 PM

[TmEE]

nifty !

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

TmEE, on 28 November 2012 - 01:23 PM, said:

nifty !

Thanks Now that most bugs are fixed, I thought I would focus on polishing it up. I really want to fix that VIA bug. Besides that, no one hasn't had any problems which is great I think SP will be completely finished somewhere round 3.12 - 3.17 Can you guys imagine if I had stopped @ 3.0. I'm always checking for updated files, convenience, more stability etc...It will always be 3.x, even if I decide to pick it back up later. All my scripts are 3.x and icons ranging from 3.0 - 3.99 I might release 3.12 over the weekend or maybe Friday. It depends on my schedule. I have to say, it was quite a challenge, fun and a little stressful, but we pulled through.

[LoneCrusader]

@PROBLEMCHYLD

You do know that the startup & shutdown logos will lose the animation in in the bottom bar if edited with Paint or a similar program?

You need a utility to restore the animation after the edits, such as XrX AddBar.

I can fix them for you if you've not already done this...

This post has been edited by LoneCrusader: 28 November 2012 - 10:05 PM

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

LoneCrusader, on 28 November 2012 - 09:52 PM, said:

@PROBLEMCHYLD

You do know that the startup & shutdown logos will lose the animation in in the bottom bar if edited with Paint or a similar program?

You need a utility to restore the animation after the edits, such as XrX AddBar.

I can fix them for you if you've not already done this...

Yes, please fix them. Thank you

[LoneCrusader]

PROBLEMCHYLD, on 28 November 2012 - 10:33 PM, said:

Yes, please fix them. Thank you

Here you go

LOGO98SE.ZIP - 105.0 Kb

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

Thanks LoneCrusader SP3.12 shouldn't have any bugs except for the VIA issue.

This post has been edited by PROBLEMCHYLD: 28 November 2012 - 11:52 PM

[LoneCrusader]

PROBLEMCHYLD, on 28 November 2012 - 11:52 PM, said:

Thanks LoneCrusader SP3.12 shouldn't have any bugs except for the VIA issue.

No problem.

Yes, the VIA issue is a real PITA. If only the driver stack files had different names, then fixing the .INF's as discussed would cure it.

This post has been edited by LoneCrusader: 29 November 2012 - 12:09 AM

[Hu$tle]

PROBLEMCHYLD, on 28 November 2012 - 10:01 AM, said:

Some more great news I was able to edit the AVI file from version 3.0 to read Service Pack 3. I thought this would be ideal because then I don't have to keep changing the version number. Here's what I did, I loaded the 3.0 AVI file in VirtualDub 1.9, save it as an animated GIF file. After that, loaded the GIF file with MSPAINT.EXE, removed the .0. Reloaded the modded GIF file back in VirtualDub 1.9 and saved it as an AVI file. I think the artwork gives it a more professional look even thought we know it not professional. If somone can be so kind and maybe replace the text Microsoft with Unofficial. I have no idea and don't want to mess with it anymore.

This looks wonderful. I it

[bphlpt]

PROBLEMCHYLD, on 28 November 2012 - 10:01 AM, said:

Some more great news I was able to edit the AVI file from version 3.0 to read Service Pack 3. I thought this would be ideal because then I don't have to keep changing the version number. Here's what I did, I loaded the 3.0 AVI file in VirtualDub 1.9, save it as an animated GIF file. After that, loaded the GIF file with MSPAINT.EXE, removed the .0. Reloaded the modded GIF file back in VirtualDub 1.9 and saved it as an AVI file. I think the artwork gives it a more professional look even thought we know it not professional. If somone can be so kind and maybe replace the text Microsoft with Unofficial. I have no idea and don't want to mess with it anymore.

If you'll send me a link to the file you want to modify, from MS to Unofficial, I'll see what I can do. I think I have the tools to remove the existing text and the necessary fonts to replace it if I can figure out the font size to use, at least to be "good enough".

Cheers and Regards

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

bphlpt, on 29 November 2012 - 01:00 PM, said:

If you'll send me a link to the file you want to modify, from MS to Unofficial, I'll see what I can do. I think I have the tools to remove the existing text and the necessary fonts to replace it if I can figure out the font size to use, at least to be "good enough".

Cheers and Regards

Thanks

This post has been edited by PROBLEMCHYLD: 29 November 2012 - 03:30 PM

[bphlpt]

Well, here's an attempt. I'm not completely happy with it, but maybe someone else can provide some assistance.

In the folder UNART are three files:

ARTWORK1.GIF - "Microsoft" is removed
ARTWORK2.GIF - "Unofficial" is put in its place
ARTWORK.AVI - AVI made from ARTWORK2.GIF

Procedure:
1) Loaded the 3.0 AVI file, (see post from PROBLEMCHYLD above) in VirtualDub 1.9, and saved it as an animated GIF file.
2) Loaded the GIF file in GIMP Portable 2.8.0, removed "Microsoft", and saved it as ARTWORK1.GIF.
3) Loaded ARTWORK1.GIF in Irfanview 4.33, added "Unofficial" using the Font Arial Narrow Bold Size 14, and saved it as ARTWORK2.GIF. -- I had to use Irfanview because Gimp didn't have access to Arial Narrow Bold even though it was a recognized installed system file, but Irfanview did..
4) Loaded ARTWORK2.GIF in VirtualDub 1.9, and saved it as ARTWORK.AVI.

The "Unofficial" text is about the right size and letter spacing, but if you enlarge the image enough you will see the letters are too angular and not smooth and rounded like the other text in the image. If anyone can recommend a better text to use I can give it another try, or they try it them selves using ARTWORK1.GIF as a source.

http://www.mediafire...7ecm5nvqy0hm3d0

Cheers and Regards

[dencorso]

dencorso, on 23 November 2012 - 01:42 AM, said:

I have to report that, despite my best efforts, I've been utterly unable to elicit a BSOD from Usbhub20.sys v. 5.0.2195.5605.
Rest assured that the hub I used is not seen as a Composite Device, but simpliy as a "Generic USB Hub" (USB 2.0, High Speed) from Alcor Micro (VID=0x058F; PID=0x6254).

PROBLEMCHYLD, on 25 November 2012 - 11:57 AM, said:

This is what we have so far

TmEE - VIA VT6212L
Drivers not working - USBHUB20.SYS 5.0.2195.5605, USBHUB20.SYS 5.0.2195.6891

Drugwash - VIA VT6202
Drivers working - USBHUB20.SYS 5.0.2195.6891

dencorso - Generic USB Hub
Drivers working - USBHUB20.SYS 5.0.2195.5605
Drivers not working - USBHUB20.SYS 5.0.2195.6891

It's more complicated than that... USBHUB20.SYS 5.0.2195.6891 now works for me, too.
The only thing I can say for sure that changed between the time when it gave me the BSODs and now is that now I use RLoew's WDMEX.VxD, instead of WDMSTUB.SYS 5.0.0.6...
And I get the analog results using yet another "Generic USB Hub" (USB 2.0, High Speed) from Genesys Logic (VID=0x05E3; PID=0x0608).
I'll also test USBHUB.SYS 5.0.2195.7006 soon, but I bet it'll work, too... Question is, why are them working now?
Also BTW, my machine's motherboard uses a VT8237 southbridge (part of which is a VT6212 USB controller).

[LoneCrusader]

@PROBLEMCHYLD

Here's a LOGO set for users who also have the 98 Plus! package installed. This way they can have the "Second Edition" text and not lose the "Plus!" text.
Courtesy of bphlpt & myself.

You can add it if you wish, or if not it can remain linked here for anyone who wants to add it manually.

98PLUSSE.ZIP - 86.9 Kb

This post has been edited by LoneCrusader: 30 November 2012 - 02:47 AM

[farfigs11]

I'm assuming it's possible-- can someone direct me to info about getting LAN icon to work in win98se?

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

bphlpt, on 29 November 2012 - 10:55 PM, said:

Well, here's an attempt. I'm not completely happy with it, but maybe someone else can provide some assistance.

In the folder UNART are three files:

ARTWORK1.GIF - "Microsoft" is removed
ARTWORK2.GIF - "Unofficial" is put in its place
ARTWORK.AVI - AVI made from ARTWORK2.GIF

Procedure:
1) Loaded the 3.0 AVI file, (see post from PROBLEMCHYLD above) in VirtualDub 1.9, and saved it as an animated GIF file.
2) Loaded the GIF file in GIMP Portable 2.8.0, removed "Microsoft", and saved it as ARTWORK1.GIF.
3) Loaded ARTWORK1.GIF in Irfanview 4.33, added "Unofficial" using the Font Arial Narrow Bold Size 14, and saved it as ARTWORK2.GIF. -- I had to use Irfanview because Gimp didn't have access to Arial Narrow Bold even though it was a recognized installed system file, but Irfanview did..
4) Loaded ARTWORK2.GIF in VirtualDub 1.9, and saved it as ARTWORK.AVI.

The "Unofficial" text is about the right size and letter spacing, but if you enlarge the image enough you will see the letters are too angular and not smooth and rounded like the other text in the image. If anyone can recommend a better text to use I can give it another try, or they try it them selves using ARTWORK1.GIF as a source.

Cheers and Regards

Don't worry, I do prefer the smooth font. You did great and I appreciate it with the utmost

dencorso, on 29 November 2012 - 11:44 PM, said:

It's more complicated than that... USBHUB20.SYS 5.0.2195.6891 now works for me, too.
The only thing I can say for sure that changed between the time when it gave me the BSODs and now is that now I use RLoew's WDMEX.VxD, instead of WDMSTUB.SYS 5.0.0.6...
And I get the analog results using yet another "Generic USB Hub" (USB 2.0, High Speed) from Genesys Logic (VID=0x05E3; PID=0x0608).
I'll also test USBHUB.SYS 5.0.2195.7006 soon, but I bet it'll work, too... Question is, why are them working now?
Also BTW, my machine's motherboard uses a VT8237 southbridge (part of which is a VT6212 USB controller).

Music to my ears If you are to find that WDMSTUB.SYS might be the culprit, then maybe one can patch it. Here's is the crazy thing, USBHUB20.SYS 5.0.2195.6891 works without WDMSTUB.SYS 5.0.0.6

LoneCrusader, on 30 November 2012 - 02:45 AM, said:

@PROBLEMCHYLD

Here's a LOGO set for users who also have the 98 Plus! package installed. This way they can have the "Second Edition" text and not lose the "Plus!" text.
Courtesy of bphlpt & myself.

You can add it if you wish, or if not it can remain linked here for anyone who wants to add it manually.

98PLUSSE.ZIP - 86.9 Kb

Thank you LC I'm hoping one of my dear friends [Drugwash] maybe be able to create an updated optional installer so we can have sub-options

farfigs11, on 30 November 2012 - 07:13 AM, said:

I'm assuming it's possible-- can someone direct me to info about getting LAN icon to work in win98se?

If you are talking about the double network icon, thats Universal Plug N Play. Its optional in the Service Pack, but if you don't have UPNP devices Don't install it because it won't do you any good

This post has been edited by PROBLEMCHYLD: 30 November 2012 - 02:14 PM

[Drugwash]

May be nitpicking, but still, 'Windows 98' is Microsoft's product, so I don't think we should replace 'Microsoft' with 'Unofficial'. The approach below is not ideal but to me it sounds a bit better.
The ideal approach would be:
Unofficial Service Pack 3
for
Microsoft Windows98
Second Edition

and the Plus! logo might get its rightful place in there somewhere too.



One question is bothering me: why use an AVI - which is 128 kB and only has one frame, so it's utterly useless in this format - when a 8bpp BMP would be 40kB and acceptable by the Windows API? The installer should be modified to display a BMP, IMHO. However, I could not find the above AVI in the SP3 installer, so there may be a catch I'm not aware of. Anyone care to fill me in (no hurry, though)?

EDIT:
This connection is killing me!

That installer would have to wait for a while, otherwise I have no idea how to handle all the open projects I'm working on. Right now I'm trying hard to build that NE editor I promised. It's harder than I thought and is gonna take a lot more time toget to a usable version.
After that, I may think of an installer. I can (theoretically) get rid of ResHacker, Touch and maybe other third-party tools and do everything from the installer, but this has to be thought of carefully. As I said so many times, I'm slow and lots of real-life issues draw me back. There's will so there must be a way, it's just that there's not much time left ahead.

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

I like the Microsoft font style you used, it nice and clearer I'm not a big fan of the Service Pack font I do like the original better. BTW, the AVI was in the very first 3.0. I had to remove it when I released 3.1. I'm sorry Drugwash, but that purple does not look good with the original colors. I know thats your favorite color but.......I also agree we can probably leave the Microsoft in but find a way to add Unofficial.

[Drugwash]

No worries, that was just a proof of concept. It wouls still be best to outline the 'unofficial' bit, just in case someone would take it for granted and then run into - knock on wood! -troubles. Say a color and I'll use it.

The font I used for 'Service Pack' is FreeSans, 12, BoldOblique and - whaddaya know? - it's the same I used for 'Microsoft', just that it's italicized, exactly as it is in the original file. Compare the two, see the differences are minor.

I'll see if I can find a 3.0 version of the SP somewhere, to look at the installer.

Also, for the future, please put together a list of options and suboptions for the new installer that may (or may not) come to life. I'll also need the direct dependencies from one-another and the amount of RAM required by each of them (or only by the most memory-hungry), so I could add checks and warnings as appropriate.

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

Drugwash, on 30 November 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

No worries, that was just a proof of concept. It wouls still be best to outline the 'unofficial' bit, just in case someone would take it for granted and then run into - knock on wood! -troubles. Say a color and I'll use it.

The font I used for 'Service Pack' is FreeSans, 12, BoldOblique and - whaddaya know? - it's the same I used for 'Microsoft', just that it's italicized, exactly as it is in the original file. Compare the two, see the differences are minor.

I'll see if I can find a 3.0 version of the SP somewhere, to look at the installer.

Also, for the future, please put together a list of options and suboptions for the new installer that may (or may not) come to life. I'll also need the direct dependencies from one-another and the amount of RAM required by each of them (or only by the most memory-hungry), so I could add checks and warnings as appropriate.

Try Unofficial on the same line as Microsoft. Lets see how that look. Black fonts are cool, you really can't go wrong with that. I will get you that list sometime in the future. Thanks