[eidenk]

I've just installed the service pack (all options but metapad checked) on a fresh Win98SE install under a virtual machine (in QEMU) and I suffer from none of the problems Jimmsta describes above. Everything works as normal.

Very nice service pack by the way.

I also think that Wintop from the win95 kernel toys should be included. Maybe also the Timezone Editor and the DOS Mode Configuration Wizard.

[MDGx]

jimmsta, on Nov 30 2005, 06:25 PM, said:

I've got a strange problem. I've got a Win98SE installation with a previously-applied 98se2me, and the latest (2.1a) SP. For some really strange reason, my double-click function is now pre-set to default to Search, or Find... this is not useful.

Also, the My Documents link on the desktop is missing its icon, and WILL NOT launch the correct folder. In this screenshot, you can see that I had to make a shortcut directly to the folder, just to access it.

I'll be trying this out on a vanilla 98SE install, in vmware, as well... This is mearly a heads up for all 98se2me users that haven't updated their copy of 98se2me in a while, and apply this new SP.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and the start button/start menu DOESN'T WORK AT ALL. I click the start button, and it stays depressed, but nothing shows up... (as you can see in the above screenshots). Use of TaskManager is the only way to reboot from within the virtual machine.

I had experienced this a while back with 98SE2ME [this used to be a problem only with option 3 if I recall correctly], but it has been fixed.

Please re-install 98SE2ME after you have installed SP 2.1a.
98SE2ME:
http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=46349

I don't know if SP 2.1a needs [or not] to be fixed/changed, that is a question for Gape.

Hope this helps.

[Petr]

Just tip for cleaning up the code ()

The following lines have exactly the same result in [AddReg.Something] sections of INF files:

HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x00010001,0x00000400
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x00010001,0x400
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x00010001,00,04,00,00
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x00010001,1024
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x00010001,00001024
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x10001,0x00000400
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x10001,0x400
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x10001,00,04,00,00
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x10001,1024
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x10001,00001024
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x10001,"0x00000400"
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x10001,"0x400"
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x10001,"00,04,00,00"
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x10001,"1024"
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,0x10001,"00001024"
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,"0x10001","0x00000400"
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,"0x10001","0x400"
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,"0x10001","00,04,00,00"
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,"0x10001","1024"
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,"0x10001","00001024"
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,65537,0x00000400
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,65537,0x400
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,65537,00,04,00,00
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,65537,1024
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,65537,00001024
I have read (not tested) that for Windows 95 is the correct syntax only:
HKLM,TestKey,TestValue,65537,00,04,00,00


In SPUPDATE.INF are combined various syntaxes.

Petr

[Petr]

Just in case this forum is read by some people from Czech Republic - beta version is here: http://www.winpack.o...p21cs-beta4.exe and Czech discussion forum is here http://www.macich.ne...wforum.php?f=27

Petr

[bristols]

I know everyone concerned is busy and have lives to live, but I wish that the "detailed list" of the "120+ updates and hotfixes" would be prepared soon.

This is partly because I am confused (still) about what the pack includes and what it doesn't include. For example, quoting from Gape's site, he says:

Quote

It contains only operating system updates. It does NOT contain Internet Explorer 6, DirectX 9, Media Player 9 and their updates.

But the pack does contain some IE updates, doesn't it? For instance, new in 2.1a is Q885836 (MSWRD632.WPC), which, as I understand it, is an IE6 SP1 update.

Edit: oops - my mistake. It's not. For some reason, I mistook it for 885258. I'm not sure why, heh. But nevertheless: does the pack now contain some IE updates (e.g, 903235)?

Clasys recently mentioned a list (that he either has, or is making) of all IE updates (IE6 SP1 specifically I think - correct me if I'm wrong). Sharing this, combined with a list of all the updates in 2.1a, would be extremely helpful to everyone concerned, I think.

Although I am a relative newbie in all this, I have also just begun compiling my own lists. If I get the time and they turn out to be comprehensive enough (or at least a bit useful), I will post these online somewhere.

P.S. - thanks Gape, Petr and everyone else concerned for your dedication, skill and generosity in preparing these packs.

This post has been edited by bristols: 01 December 2005 - 05:15 PM

[swgreed]

Gape, on Nov 30 2005, 09:06 PM, said:

@swgreed: It looks like DSOUND.DLL problem is similar. Please, add these two lines for DSOUND.DLL and COMPOBJ.DLL to solve "in use" problems.

It actually was similar
added additionally:

[Copy.System]
DSOUND.DLL,,DSOUND.TMP,4
[Copy.Sysbckup]
DSOUND.DLL,,,4

and it installs perfectly.

[Petr]

bristols, on Dec 1 2005, 09:53 PM, said:

I know everyone concerned is busy and have lives to live, but I wish that the "detailed list" of the "120+ updates and hotfixes" would be prepared soon.

You already have the complete list in SPUPDATE.INF file + WBEM updates, Q313829, Q329414, CRL update, root certificates update, MS Installer 2.0, Windows Script 5.6. What you are missing?

Or the list like: Q172733, Q180071, Q192425, Q196208, Q212265, Q236926, Q237493, Q239696, Q239887, Q240075, Q240163, Q240308, Q240896, Q241052, Q242004, Q242193, Q242975, Q243320, Q243450, Q243638, Q244357, Q244540, Q245065, Q245272, Q245682, Q246094, Q246387, Q246817, Q249146, Q249635, Q249973, Q250514, Q250876, Q253697, Q253711, Q254660, Q257360, Q257821, Q258680, Q258765, Q259253, Q259728, Q262232, Q263044, Q266772, Q267304, Q268064, Q269239, Q269601, Q269604, Q269874, Q270063, Q271701, Q272621, Q273017, Q273727, Q274113, Q274175, Q274370, Q274548, Q275873, Q277628, Q278033, Q278368, Q280448, Q281533, Q282949, Q283032, Q284837, Q285189, Q285895, Q288430, Q288550, Q289635, Q290831, Q290887, Q291362, Q292539, Q293197, Q293818, Q295629, Q305037, Q306453, Q306889, Q307004, Q308349, Q309081, Q310695, Q311430, Q311561, Q313829, Q314147, Q314941, Q315575, Q317796, Q318307, Q319303, Q319571, Q320798, Q321467, Q323172, Q323455, Q323708, Q327517, Q329414, Q811630, Q813432, Q835732, Q835935, Q870669, Q885836, Q887616, Q888113, Q891711, Q891781, Q892211, Q896358, Q903235, ie55sp2, ie60sp1, rootsupd, scr56, unicows, vcredist would better suits your needs?

And regarding IE6.0SP1 - AFAIK there are only few relevat fixes at present:

KB896688 - MS05-052: Cumulative security update for Internet Explorer
BROWSEUI.DLL 6.0.2800.1692
CDFVIEW.DLL 6.0.2800.1612
DANIM.DLL 6.3.1.147
DXTRANS.DLL 6.3.2800.1520
IEPEERS.DLL 6.0.2800.1497
INSENG.DLL 6.0.2800.1475
MSHTML.DLL 6.0.2800.1523
MSRATING.DLL 6.0.2800.1623
MSTIME.DLL 6.0.2800.1520
PNGFILT.DLL 6.0.2800.1506
SHDOCVW.DLL 6.0.2800.1692
SHLWAPI.DLL 6.0.2800.1740
URLMON.DLL 6.0.2800.1520
WININET.DLL 6.0.2800.1512

and for components related to IE
KB833989 - MS04-028: Buffer Overrun in JPEG Processing (GDI+) Could Allow Code Execution
VGX.DLL 6.0.2800.1411

KB903235 - MS05-037: Vulnerability in JView Profiler could allow remote code execution
(just adds one killbit to the registry)

KB837009 - MS04-013: Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express
DIRECTDB.DLL 6.0.2800.1123
INETCOMM.DLL 6.0.2800.1409
INETRES.DLL 6.0.2800.1123
MSIDENT.DLL 6.0.2800.1123
MSIMN.EXE 6.0.2800.1123
MSOE.DLL 6.0.2800.1409
MSOEACCT.DLL 6.0.2800.1123
MSOERES.DLL 6.0.2800.1123
MSOERT2.DLL 6.0.2800.1123
OEIMPORT.DLL 6.0.2800.1123
OEMIG50.EXE 6.0.2800.1123
OEMIGLIB.DLL 6.0.2800.1123
OEUNINST.EXE 6.0.2800.1223
OEUPDATE.EXE 6.0.2800.1276
WAB.EXE 6.0.2800.1123
WAB32.DLL 6.0.2800.1409
WABFIND.DLL 6.0.2800.1123
WABIMP.DLL 6.0.2800.1123
WABMIG.EXE 6.0.2800.1123

and maybe also
KB891781 - MS05-013: Vulnerability in the DHTML editing component ActiveX control could allow code execution
DHTMLED.OCX 6.1.0.9231

Are there any other relevant fixes that should be applied?

Petr

[eidenk]

Quote

Are there any other relevant fixes that should be applied?

Yes, there are probably a few Media Player 6.4 fixes :

wm320920_64 msdxm.ocx 6.4.9.1124 dxmasf.dll 6.4.9.1121
KB832353 msdxm.ocx 6.4.7.1129
wm324178 mpg4ds32.ax 7.10.0.3069

[k.eight.a]

Hi!
I new to this board and I have a few simple questions...

1) What are the differences among those patches for W98 that can be found in the sticky threads...?

98 SE SP 2.1a
98SE2ME: ME -> 98 SE Killer Replacements
Windows 98 Revolutions Pack Lite
Installation Guide for Win98 SE SP 2.0
Service pack for Windows 98 Standard (First, Gold)
...and the alternative USB driver Maximus Decim Native USB ver.2.2

2) Is it possible to include all of those updates into an instalation CD of W98 se? If yes, how?

3) What do you recommend me to try out first? Unfortunately I don't enough time to inspect all of the possibilities right now but I'm in hurry, to instal a brand new instalation of W98 to my friends computer so I want to gain some of the advantages that are presented here!

This post has been edited by k.eight.a: 02 December 2005 - 08:51 AM

[Gape]

k.eight.a, on Dec 2 2005, 05:47 PM, said:

98 SE SP 2.1a
98SE2ME: ME -> 98 SE Killer Replacements
Windows 98 Revolutions Pack Lite
Installation Guide for Win98 SE SP 2.0
Service pack for Windows 98 Standard (First, Gold)
...and the alternative USB driver Maximus Decim Native USB ver.2.2

In fact, the first (98 SE SP) is the main product of this forum

98 SE SP 2.1a: Win98 Second Edition Service Pack, contains 120+ fixes and some tweaks for Win98 SE.
98SE2ME: It copies some Win ME files into Win98 SE. Requires Win ME CD.
Win 98 Rev. Pack: It enhances Win98 SE visually and adds some new features such as New Task Manager.
Installation Guide: Installation order of these products.
Maximus-Decim NUSB: Generic USB driver for mass storage devices such as USB flash disks.

This post has been edited by Gape: 02 December 2005 - 10:15 AM

[winxpi]

I read about the 98SE SP 2.1 on Pcwelt and also heared that the Windows 98 Upgrade Pack has been updated.

This post has been edited by winxpi: 02 December 2005 - 05:12 PM

[swgreed]

By the way: the German Version 2.1a is available (see my signature)

In its actual issue, the German magazine "PC-WELT" rated the "unofficial Win98 SE SP 2.0.2" TOP 14 out of the 100 best free- and shareware tools

[bristols]

Petr, on Dec 2 2005, 08:15 AM, said:

bristols, on Dec 1 2005, 09:53 PM, said:

I know everyone concerned is busy and have lives to live, but I wish that the "detailed list" of the "120+ updates and hotfixes" would be prepared soon.

You already have the complete list in SPUPDATE.INF file + WBEM updates, Q313829, Q329414, CRL update, root certificates update, MS Installer 2.0, Windows Script 5.6.

Thanks a lot Petr for pointing this out to me.

I'm at that stage in my knowledge where I know little, but enough to have lots of "But what if/why/how...?" kind of questions that I know will usually annoy more knowledgeable people. I'm doing my best to answer these questions myself, but so far my efforts are causing me to have more confusion than useful knowledge.

My main concern is to have a fully-patched/updated 98SE, including a fully-patched IE6 SP1. Of course, luckily for us all, the Service Pack does much to achieve this. But I still have lots of questions: about the best installation order to get the most out of the pack IF one wants a system with all or many of the various add-ons, such as MSXML 4.0 SP2, MDAC; about exactly what IE updates to install before installing SP2.1a; about whether the latest IE cumulative update actually replaces all prior IE updates, or whether one needs to install some updates or every update that was released for IE6 SP1 for a complete installation. So, as you can see, a lot of questions, most of which belong in other threads, and most of which I have no doubt are just annoying to most people for whom the answers are already clear.

By the way, just as a matter of interest, I recorded all the KB numbers that Maximus-Decim's Cumulative Update installs, and which SP2.1a does not. Now, I realise that a lot of those updates in MD's pack have been superceded by newer updates, which explains the absence of those older updates in Gape's pack. But still, would it serve any purpose if I posted this list? Personally I doubt it, but I ask simply because I do not know in detail which updates in MD's pack have been superceded and which updates have been left out for some other reason (that a hotfix is badly-written and causes more problems than it is worth, for example).

Ok, now I will stop hogging this thread.

This post has been edited by bristols: 03 December 2005 - 08:31 AM

[erpdude8]

eidenk, on Nov 30 2005, 08:17 PM, said:

I've just installed the service pack (all options but metapad checked) on a fresh Win98SE install under a virtual machine (in QEMU) and I suffer from none of the problems Jimmsta describes above. Everything works as normal.

Very nice service pack by the way.

I also think that Wintop from the win95 kernel toys should be included. Maybe also the Timezone Editor and the DOS Mode Configuration Wizard.

Wintop? nah. too cumbersome. Timezone editor? ok but use the one included on the win98 cd. DOS mode config wizard? only if you use a lot of DOS programs, otherwise, leave it out of the pack?

bristols, on Dec 1 2005, 02:53 PM, said:

But the pack does contain some IE updates, doesn't it? For instance, new in 2.1a is Q885836 (MSWRD632.WPC), which, as I understand it, is an IE6 SP1 update.

WRONG, bristols!!!! Q885836 is NOT an IE6 SP1 update. It's a Wordpad security update. See Microsoft Security bulletin MS04-041 and Microsoft KB article 885836:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/...n/ms04-041.mspx
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/885836

The 98se pack contains some IE 5.x updates; updates for the built-in IE 5.0 browser originally included in Win98 SE.

This post has been edited by erpdude8: 03 December 2005 - 06:06 PM

[appp]

erpdude8, on Dec 3 2005, 04:04 PM, said:

Wintop? nah. too cumbersome. Timezone editor? ok but use the one included on the win98 cd. DOS mode config wizard? only if you use a lot of DOS programs, otherwise, leave it out of the pack?

WinTop is too cumbersome? Do you consider 17,408 *bytes* cumbersome?
Win98 deserves what NT and descendants had forever - a decent Task Monitor, which WinTop is.

What is the point of including Tz editor from win98 Resource Kit, if it is available to anyone who has the cd? It does not improve/fix the cd.

This post has been edited by appp: 04 December 2005 - 12:00 PM

[bristols]

erpdude8, on Dec 4 2005, 12:04 AM, said:

WRONG, bristols!!!! Q885836 is NOT an IE6 SP1 update. It's a Wordpad security update.

Heh, erpdude, if you read directly underneath where I made that statement about Q885836, you will see that I did correct my mistake with an edit. But thank you for making the identity of Q885836 even clearer.

Incidentally, while I'm here and, really for any other less experienced users, I found an authoritative and at least 'official' account of how to regard updates for IE, particularly cumulative ones, here:

http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=42259

Most of the explanation was given by the indefatigable MDGx (try saying that after a pint or three ), but also by your good self, erpdude.

I say 'official', because, generally-speaking again as I understand it, M$ IE and generally Windows updates have a history of being incomplete, broken or otherwise badly-written, shifty, elusive, hard-to-find, and otherwise inexplicable in terms of the effect that updates here and there can have on each other. I'm still just learning here, but it does seem fair to say that the story of the mutual compatibility and comprehensiveness of IE updates is not an easily-understood, clear and distinct one.

Perhaps I am WRONG!

[Petr]

Here is the first beta version for people using Slovak version of Windows 98 SE:

http://rapidshare.de...-beta1.exe.html

Support forum here: http://www.macich.ne...topic.php?t=393

Petr

[erpdude8]

Gape,

The Unofficial Win98 SE service pack version 2.1a is NOT posted at the Majorgeeks.com site.
they still have the original version 2.1 file [sesp21en.exe] even though they say they have
version 2.1a. The newer one [sesp21a-en.exe] was posted at the Softpedia.com, Rapidshare,
Mytempdir.com and Freeware Files.com sites but not Majorgeeks.

[MDGx]

MajorGeeks just posted SP 2.1a today, 12-5-2005 [I guess the news got to them late ]:
http://www.majorgeek...wnload4131.html

[pykor]

How come when I use Belarc Advisor - Free Personal PC Audit (version 7.0t), it says the SP21 has failed verification. Is this because Advisor doesn't know that everything is bundled into one component?

DataAccess
no verification data Q329414-21 on 11/6/05 (details...)

Internet Explorer
no verification data SP1 (SP1)
no verification data Q240308 (details...)
no verification data Q313829 (details...)
no verification data Q328389 (details...)

Win98.SE
passed verification UPD263044 (details...)

Win98SE.SP2
passed verification SP21ASPI (Adaptec ASPI 4.6)
failed verification SP21CORE (uSP 2.1 for Windows 98 SE) Reinstall!
passed verification SP21NOVER (Files with no version information)
passed verification SP21SCR56 (Windows Script 5.6)
passed verification SP21TWUI (Tweak UI)
passed verification SP21WBEM15 (WBEM 1.5 updates)