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#1501 User is offline   Elvi 

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 01:40 AM

no i mean it doesn't work at all, like i'm missing something in the win98se setup.


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Posted 10 July 2012 - 01:59 AM

.CMDs do not work on 9x/ME at all, of course.
You must convert them to batch files, taking a lot of care, because many commands have had their syntax, parameters/switches and capabilities upgraded on going to the NT-family.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 02:05 AM

yes i know about the .bat files but i don't know how to change a script as advanced as that one, never had to :blushing:

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 02:39 AM

It seems to me your in to learn a lot!
Trial and error eventually wins the day... get yourself lots of patience and do it only if you can see it as fun.
Here is a little help: DOS 7 Commands.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:00 AM

I guess i need to give up then as i have trouble learning stuff when it feels like a pressure and it does right now :( now i really wish i hadn't formated that pc

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 06:39 AM

Elvi, as a first step, please carefully replace in all the batch files, the following texts and try running them in the exact places and order mentioned in that Win2000 topic:
systemroot --> windir
system32 --> system
Before that, place the filever utility in the SYSTEM folder, not in SYSTEM32!

Please post the results afterwards. Oh and pay attention to script bugs (see post #84 in the aforementioned topic).

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:45 AM

View PostElvi, on 10 July 2012 - 03:00 AM, said:

I guess i need to give up then as i have trouble learning stuff when it feels like a pressure and it does right now :( now i really wish i hadn't formated that pc
Never give up or regret anything. You will learn here @ MSFN if you stick with it. I couldn't have done SP3 without people
like Drugwash, dencorso, rloew and many others.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 08:59 AM

Can this key be used to detect whether a board is VIA or not? Is this key present on all VIA hardware?
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\USB\ROOT_HUB20\PCI&VEN_8086&DEV_24CD&SUBSYS_80891043&REV_01&BUS_00&DEV_1D&FUNC_07


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Posted 10 July 2012 - 09:01 AM

this is what happens if i use the bat file from here with the windir and system changes, no output file as it never gets that far.

C:\98se> IF EXIST C:\WINDOWS\system\%~nI%~xI (

C:\98se> FOR /F "tokens=4" %J IN ('filever.exe "%I"') DO (
Syntaxfel

C:\98se> FOR /F "tokens=4" %K IN ('filever.exe "C:\WINDOW
S\system\%~nI%~xI"') DO (
Syntaxfel

C:\98se> IF "%J"=="%K" ECHO>>files.txt %~nI%~xI %
J

C:\98se> )
Felaktigt kommando eller filnamn.

C:\98se> )
Felaktigt kommando eller filnamn.

C:\98se> )
Felaktigt kommando eller filnamn.

C:\98se>)
Felaktigt kommando eller filnamn.

C:\98se>

Systemfel=syntax error
Felaktigt kommando eller filnamn.=wrong command or filename

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 09:15 AM

@Elvi: OK, I see paranthesis don't get recognized by DOS7. Well, we might just have to try a different approach, since I'm not a fan of batch files myself either. Let me think about it, see what I can come up with. And never dispair! ;)

@PROBLEMCHYLD: That key would only exist for that exact USB chip. By the numbers, it's an Intel USB EHCI controller.
If you want to recognize a VIA chipset you have to hunt for VEN_1106 in the PCI section.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 09:57 AM

View PostDrugwash, on 10 July 2012 - 09:15 AM, said:

@PROBLEMCHYLD: That key would only exist for that exact USB chip. By the numbers, it's an Intel USB EHCI controller.
If you want to recognize a VIA chipset you have to hunt for VEN_1106 in the PCI section.
Do your system use USBHUB20.SYS 5.0.2195.6891 or USBHUB20.SYS 4.90.3000.11?

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 10:06 AM

i guess all this would be slightly more easy if i could get ahold of the orginal swedish updates or?

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 10:13 AM

View PostElvi, on 10 July 2012 - 10:06 AM, said:

i guess all this would be slightly more easy if i could get ahold of the orginal swedish updates or?

If you can figure out which updates are language specific, you can try requesting the HotFixes through MDGx's HotFix Request Form. Just enter the MSKB article numbers from the language specific updates and when you're redirected to Microsoft you can choose Swedish if they are still available. :unsure:

Good Luck!

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 10:37 AM

View PostPROBLEMCHYLD, on 10 July 2012 - 09:57 AM, said:

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View PostDrugwash, on 10 July 2012 - 09:15 AM, said:

<br /><b>@PROBLEMCHYLD:</b> That key would only exist for that exact USB chip. By the numbers, it's an Intel USB EHCI controller.<br />If you want to recognize a VIA <b>chipset</b> you have to hunt for <b>VEN_1106</b> in the <b>PCI</b> section.<br />
Do your system use USBHUB20.SYS 5.0.2195.6891 or USBHUB20.SYS 4.90.3000.11?<br />
<br /><br /><br />Mine has 5.0 but it may well be a botched install (see my old posts with the complete listings). It does work but not at the speed it should for a USB 2.0 hub. I just am too reluctant to mess with the registry again.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:26 AM

View PostLoneCrusader, on 10 July 2012 - 10:13 AM, said:

View PostElvi, on 10 July 2012 - 10:06 AM, said:

i guess all this would be slightly more easy if i could get ahold of the orginal swedish updates or?

If you can figure out which updates are language specific, you can try requesting the HotFixes through MDGx's HotFix Request Form. Just enter the MSKB article numbers from the language specific updates and when you're redirected to Microsoft you can choose Swedish if they are still available. :unsure:

Good Luck!


The only updates i have is IE6 SP1 swedish

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:44 AM

I managed to find this swedish page full with updates for 98 and some others and most seem to be directed at the swedish version of 98se.
http://www.microsoft...ancy~Descending

If i only knew the KB and Q names of the files needed to go from a first install to a full updated one i'd start downloading or atleast try to find the right ones, any ideas?

Or atleast from a install with ie 6 sp1 allready installed.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 06:45 PM

Hi Elvi,

Here is a list of some Windows updates that Microsoft says are available specifically for Swedish-language systems. It is not at all a complete list, but it is a start. I've made this list from my own list for English-language systems. My English list is incomplete too, and may contain a few mistakes. So I make no promises, but, I think the files contained in the updates below are the latest versions for your language.

Please bear in mind that some updates which are said to be English-language only are actually better described as 'multilanguage' - good, regardless of language. Which updates are multilanguage, I don't know. So, the unofficial English updates mentioned occasionally in the list below might be OK for you (sorry, no idea). But certainly, the updates below should all be available for Swedish systems.

When you request these updates, the download links for the updates will arrive in your inbox. The files you download will actually be compressed archive files, in which you will find the updates you need. Clicking these compressed files will start the updates' extraction.

Hope that's all clear. :)

245065
(Note the difference between the KB number - 245065 - and the number contained in the filename, and again, the number in the hotfix's INF files - 242928)

252187
(English version of this update is superseded by unofficial ATADRV98.EXE)

242004
262232
259253
267304
257360
242937
(When requesting this hotfix, choose that with PKG9724 in the Fix name column. Note the difference between the KB number - 242937 - and that contained in the filename)

268064
274370
(English version of this update is superseded by unofficial Q304708.EXE and IOSYS98.EXE)

272620
(Note the difference between the KB number - 272620 - and that contained in the filename)

288430
293197
295629
(Requires a registry fix, as explained in the KB article. The fix, TICStsChg.reg, is included in the request package.)

305037
(When requesting this hotfix, choose either one of the two offered (they are identical).)

306889
306453
278033
291854
(Note the difference between the KB number - 291854 - and that contained in the filename)

276602
280448
(This update requires 276602. Install 276602 first)

323708
278368
319571
(should be good even though the update is for "Windows 98", not "Windows 98 Second Edition")

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:26 AM

I've cooked a simple application to compare the language of files in two different folders. Please test and report if you encounter any problems.
Given the extremely limited upload quota, I'd appreciate if someone could store a copy of it in a relatively permanent location (MDGx, anyone?) so I could clear up my upload afterwards. This has been fixed. Thank you.

EDIT: - removed previous versions, uploaded v0.5.0.0
The package contains the executable (no installation required), source code (runs in AutoHotkey 1.0.48.05) and change log.

Attached File  CompareSP0500.7z (207.23K)
Number of downloads: 24

Change log:
0.1.0.0
- initial version

0.2.0.0
- added icons in list
- added options to search in subfolders

0.3.0.0
- added more info to error message in GetLocaleInfo()
- added Help message and menu item
- added About message and menu item
- fixed folder and subfolder search

0.4.0.0
- added options to list and save folder contents info (considering file type selection)
- added option to include full paths when saving list
- replaced <unknown> with dash (-) to save space
- added 'Copyright' field (for the occasional suspicious user)
- added more file types to selection list (386, cpl, flt, pdr, sys, tlb, vxd)
- replaced vague 'system locale' with actual locale name in 'Accepted language' selector
*known bug: non-printable chars in fields can screw up the saved list

0.5.0.0
- invalid language ID will be displayed as Hex number in list, instead of error messagebox
- slightly changed comparison formula




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Posted 11 July 2012 - 09:39 AM

When i press compare, nothing happens.
Oh and btw shouldn't the whole windows folder be checked?

Also i unpacked the sp and all the cab's in it, i hope that was right.

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 09:58 AM

The two [ ... ] buttons at the top, upon pressing Compare!, should display the count of files in each folder and right below them there should appear a countown instead of Ready.
If the countdown ends and there's nothing in the list, then all the file versions would be compatible. But be careful what you select in [Accepted language], better let it on system locale and also leave file type to any.
I'm now working on an improved version that would also search subfolders in the main selected folder. However, the whole Windows folder might have too many files and would take quite a long time to complete. But you can always select it if you want, using the first [ ... ] button at the top. Just that it won't look in subfolders (in the current version).

EDIT:
Just make sure you selected the appropriate folders, because the program loops through the files in Folder 2 and compares with what finds in Folder 1. If you copy the exe in the folder where you unpacked the SP, it will automatically detect it and won't require any other adjustments.
Could you post a screenshot of the app after selecting folders (if needed)?
Also, I'm not sure if this app works correctly in a VM, can't test in such environment personally.

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