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Whenever users decides they don't want to follow instructions, I should just make things optional because they don't want to follow instructions. Yeah I took that as a sign of disrespect. In so many words, you said f*** the instructions because they don't apply to you. Its just a matter of time before others users start doing it.

Edited by PROBLEMCHYLD, 07 September 2012 - 04:16 AM.



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I am very sorry for what I'm reading in the last couple days.
Now always less and less people are able to bring updates and news to Win98 OS.
Personally I really appreciate your tenacity and willingness to continue this project that I find very useful for anyone having a older PC with Win98 OS, like me.
I think we need the development of a SP Final Version (like a milestone).
I do not exclude that any other development could also happens in the future.
I would like to thank PROBLEMCHYLD for all his work carried out for free and all dedication that he put into it (I imagine many hours and days, and many problems he had to fix).

My message is: please, keep your great work!

Best regards to all, especially to PROBLEMCHYLD.
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P.S. The Win98 OS updates and news are the main reason why I read this beautiful forum very often.

Edited by I41Mar, 07 September 2012 - 05:12 AM.


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I have not posted in a long time but I still regularly check and keep up with this forum. I just wanted to say I totally agree with bphlpt, and I appreciate his long thoughtful assessment of the situation. I am shocked and distressed to find this thread devolving into a flame war. While I still have not had the opportunity to use the SP, I am extremely impressed by PROBLEMCHYLD's initiative in taking up this project, and all the hard work he's put into it ever since. Like bphlpt, jaclaz, et al., I also thought that jds made a very reasonable request but it is certainly PROBLEMCHYLD's prerogative whether to implement it in the SP. As I said, I agree with all of the other points made by bphlpt and I hope we can stop this flame war and continue to support PROBLEMCHYLD in his work. The Win9x community is small (and getting smaller) and we need all the help and support we can get.

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Hi Problemchyld,

did you tested psapi.dll (5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-2105)) ??
I am using it since mid-July and have not encountered any issues yet.

Have a nice weekend !!!

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Hi Problemchyld,

did you tested psapi.dll (5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-2105)) ??
I am using it since mid-July and have not encountered any issues yet.

Have a nice weekend !!!

what app did you use that requires it? Some of my apps installed it, but was not needed to work.
I deleted the version that was installed and all worked fine.

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OMG ! Welcome to the forum, I hope. My 1st post/comments.
I hope I don't fuel the (usb) fire any more, but here goes.
Has anyone else had an install problem with 98 SE SP 3.x, when your system has both a USB keyboard & mouse ?
Mine is: Viewsonic KBM-KU-306 & MS Comfort Optical Mouse 3000
MB=Asus A7N8X - nVidia nForce2 controllers - AMD Anthalon 1300 CPU - 512 Mb Ram
Did a fresh clean install Win 98 SE. Installed all necessary drivers to eliminate any unknown devices in the System /Device Manager section,
including (nVidia ?) usb20_98me.exe Ver 2.0.8 (that removed a PCI Universal Serial Bus-unknown ? device)
Installed IE 5.5 & Dirextx 9.0c. Did a MS Backup of my C: drive All worked fine to this point
Now I installed SP 3.6 main updates only. When install was finished, I shut down.
Then I would reboot to Safe Mode, to remove any and all USB stuff in the device manager. (As to your usb 2.0 notice/instructions)
KB & Mouse had to remain attached or PC won't boot up.
Hope that was correct procedure to follow. Upon S/D & Reboot: detection of Standard Open HCI Usb Host Controller started.
Was seeking files usb.inf & then Sp3.cab. When finished installing software your hardware requires dialog message popped up, both
the mouse & keyboard locked up/no response. SD & reboot again to add new H.W. wizard window looking to install Standard Open HCI Usb Host Controller
again, and again no response from mouse or KB. This continues to reoccur on every reboot, No KB or mouse. Tried at least 6 times with no success.
Booted to safe mode to restore my previously backed up system (replace all files & restore Registry & H.W. settings)
Interesting note after System restore is all my Usb storage devices were recognized and usable. About 6 different ones. Could do fast removal also.

PROBLEMCHYLD: This is not a complaint or gripe, just a report, and if I did something stupid/didn't read something, I apologize for wasting your time.
I've been following this and many other topics in the 98 area for quite a few years and appreciate all the hard work & time you skilled folks put into these
projects & improvements. If you would like anymore info, I'll do my best to respond, as soon as I figure out how to reply to a specific post.
Thanks for listening & I hope this goes where it's supposed to. (PS: There are a lot of rookies, newbies, P.-Time Hackers, guests etc., out there lookin' at this GREAT STUFF)
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Hi Problemchyld,

did you tested psapi.dll (5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-2105)) ??
I am using it since mid-July and have not encountered any issues yet.

Have a nice weekend !!!

what app did you use that requires it? Some of my apps installed it, but was not needed to work.
I deleted the version that was installed and all worked fine.


I do not 'use' this version because of a certain app but because I noticed that you have the older one in your SP and I thought to test it and let you know if it seem to be O.K so you can test it also.
Same for usbmon.dll (5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-0852)).

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All the talk on USB keyboards and mice probably explains the issues I'm having (see my W3629 topic). Not too concerned as you're aware of the issue. One other very minor suggestion, work on a better start up and shutdown logo. The ones included look awful on a wide screen monitor. Otherwise, nice work!

Edited by Steven W, 18 September 2012 - 09:45 AM.


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Possible problem found: on a fresh install of Windows98SE with nothing more than NUSB 3.6 used to get the SP onto the computer via a usb flash drive ( I did restart in safe mode and uninstalled all USB devices) After installing the Main updates only, all programs in the Microsoft Office 97 family will give me the error "The server application, source file, or item cannot be found. Make sure the application is properly installed, and that it has not been deleted, moved, or renamed." Whenever I try to open the Clip Art gallery. Thank you and I hope this helps.

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Possible problem found: on a fresh install of Windows98SE with nothing more than NUSB 3.6 used to get the SP onto the computer via a usb flash drive ( I did restart in safe mode and uninstalled all USB devices) After installing the Main updates only, all programs in the Microsoft Office 97 family will give me the error "The server application, source file, or item cannot be found. Make sure the application is properly installed, and that it has not been deleted, moved, or renamed." Whenever I try to open the Clip Art gallery. Thank you and I hope this helps.

Wild guess, mind you, but try running (double click ) artgalry.exe, it may re-register correctly. :unsure:
See also:
http://groups.google...36e86e6a5014e83

I seem to remember it was an issue in the good ol' days....

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Hi,

New user here.

I was just wondering whether someone would be able to provide a little "How To" on .....How To get the best out of Win 98 SE (Including this SP).

I have a clean Windows 98 SE Install on a VM, the only thing non standard is VMTools. What is the process for installing the latest SP (3.7) (Step by steps). Are there any pre reqs?
Is there any additional patches, packs that would bring additional benefits or should I just stick with this SP?

Apologies if this has been answered anywhere else before, but I read up to page 46 and thought it would be quicker to ask.

Kind Regards

J

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Hi,

New user here.

I was just wondering whether someone would be able to provide a little "How To" on .....How To get the best out of Win 98 SE (Including this SP).

I have a clean Windows 98 SE Install on a VM, the only thing non standard is VMTools. What is the process for installing the latest SP (3.7) (Step by steps). Are there any pre reqs?
Is there any additional patches, packs that would bring additional benefits or should I just stick with this SP?

Apologies if this has been answered anywhere else before, but I read up to page 46 and thought it would be quicker to ask.

Kind Regards

J

http://www.mdgx.com/newtip98.htm

Edited by PROBLEMCHYLD, 19 September 2012 - 09:39 AM.


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Hi,

Thanks for the hasty reply. I have visited that site before, and it does have a massive amount of information.

I was more concerned with your SP specifically, and it's pre reqs. Is IE 6 SP1 a pre req for example?

Also what is the comparision between SP3.7 and Auto-Patcher?

Thanks Again

Jamie

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Hi,

Thanks for the hasty reply. I have visited that site before, and it does have a massive amount of information.

I was more concerned with your SP specifically, and it's pre reqs. Is IE 6 SP1 a pre req for example?

Also what is the comparision between SP3.7 and Auto-Patcher?

Thanks Again

Jamie

The README.TXT explains most instructions. Things like IE 5/6 is not required. I don't use either. The SP can be installed on any machine with or without IE5/6 or 98lite. You have many options to choose from in SP3.x. Auto-Patcher is great for people who are having problems with SP3.x. Auto-Patcher has things like DirectX, .Net Framework, Windows Media Player etc..... SP does NOT have those options. Don't mix SP with any other packages. Use one or the other. SP3.x is the most up to date pack for Win98SE.

Unofficial Windows 98 SE Upgrade Pack (WUPG) Dozen Afterlife Edition November 2010
Unofficial Windows 98 SE Auto-Patcher v2.60
Unofficial Windows 98/98 SP1/98 SE/ME Power Pack (W9xPP) 5.01
Unofficial Windows 98 SE Service Pack 2 (SP2)

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When I run Artgalry.exe I get an error saying "Clip Gallery could not register itself on your computer. You may not have the proper administrative permissions."

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When I run Artgalry.exe I get an error saying "Clip Gallery could not register itself on your computer. You may not have the proper administrative permissions."

Did you install Office first or the SP? Follow the instructions in the README.TXT
Prerequites:

Minimum 64 MB of RAM.
136 MB free hard disk space.

Installation Guide: * = Optional.

[1] Install Windows 98 Second Edition (with or without 98lite).*
[2] Install all the latest drivers for your hardware.
[3] Install latest IE.*
[4] Install latest DirectX.*
[5] Install latest Service Pack 3.x (Main Updates).
[6] Unplug all USB devices.
[7] Remove all current USB/EHCI drivers + controllers from Device Manager in safe mode. REBOOT!
[8] Let all drivers redetect on startup. Plug in USB devices one at a time. If no new USB drivers have been added to Service Pack 3.x, then you only need to do this procedure (ONCE)!
[9] Install optional components of Service Pack 3.x.*
[10] Install MS Office.*
[11] Install KernelEx, 98SE2ME, Revolution Pack.*
3.8 future release :w00t:
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Msvcrt40.dll file version 5.1.2600.5512 does not work properly!

You can not run MSInfo32.exe

Attached File  capture_19092012_232751.jpg   23.98KB   6 downloads

because the file MFC40.DLL (4.1.6151) is linked to missing export of MSVCRT40.DLL: _adjust_fdiv

Attached File  capture_19092012_232802.jpg   16.62KB   6 downloads

Msvcrt40.dll file version 4.22.0000 (from Windows ME) works with the Mfc40.dll (4.1.6151) correctly and Msinfo32.exe opens.

Edited by egrabrych, 19 September 2012 - 04:45 PM.


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Msvcrt40.dll file version 5.1.2600.5512 does not work properly!

You can not run MSInfo32.exe

Attached File  capture_19092012_232751.jpg   23.98KB   6 downloads

because the file MFC40.DLL (4.1.6151) is linked to missing export of MSVCRT40.DLL: _adjust_fdiv

Attached File  capture_19092012_232802.jpg   16.62KB   6 downloads

Msvcrt40.dll file version 4.22.0000 (from Windows ME) works with the Mfc40.dll (4.1.6151) correctly and Msinfo32.exe opens.

Thanks :w00t: It has been fixed for 3.8 :yes:

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Did you install Office first or the SP? Follow the instructions in the README.TXT


Sorry, I didn't see the read me file in there.

Now when I go to install MS Office 97 (just right after I enter the cd key) I get an error message saying "Setup error 797 Object 1586 Your setup files may be damaged . Try restarting the setup program from where you originally ran it"

When I run the program again, I get the same errors.

Clicking ok will yield subsequent error messages that all say the same thing except the Object that it is referring to changes.

The objects that are being referred to are in order are 1586,1596,1591,1601, and 1582.

Then windows reports that the program preformed an illegal operation and the install closes.

Under details it reads:

ACMSETUP caused an invalid page fault in
module OFF97_BB.DLL at 0167:00dc695d.
Registers:
EAX=00000641 CS=0167 EIP=00dc695d EFLGS=00010202
EBX=004382f8 SS=016f ESP=005cf6f4 EBP=00536094
ECX=00000000 DS=016f ESI=0053608c FS=2c37
EDX=00536094 ES=016f EDI=00c2f408 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
8b 34 01 56 53 e8 f9 cb fe ff 56 8b f8 53 e8 30
Stack dump:
00c2f40c 0053608c 00c2f408 004382f8
00000000 00000001 00dc6833 004382f8
00000000 00c2f408 004979d8 00000004
00000001 00dc647a 004382f8 00c2f40c

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Replace the file Msvcrt40.dll with the Win98 version.

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Replace the file Msvcrt40.dll with the Win98 version.


That worked, I can install and use the clip art in Office 97.

Thank you and I hope this helps.

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Replace the file Msvcrt40.dll with the Win98 version.


That worked, I can install and use the clip art in Office 97.

Thank you and I hope this helps.

Thank you very much for testing.

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U98SESP3.9 coming in a few weeks :thumbup
This will give you guys some time while I work on configuring my Win 7.

DBGHELP.DLL 6.0.17.0 ??? Need some more info on this file. Google runs me in circles :angry:
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VBSCRIPT.DLL 5.6.0.8850 Windows Server 2003 SP2

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DBGHELP.DLL 6.0.17.0 ??? Need some more info on this file. Google runs me in circles :angry:

Which kind of info?
The file has been found or is it not the "right" one? :unsure:

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Which kind of info?
The file has been found or is it not the "right" one? :unsure:

jaclaz

I guess I'm not sure what version should be used?????? I also don't want to download all those debugging packages just to test one file. So if anyone knows the best version to use, it would really be helpful.

Edited by PROBLEMCHYLD, 07 October 2012 - 01:16 PM.





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