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If you'll send me a link to the file you want to modify, from MS to Unofficial, I'll see what I can do. I think I have the tools to remove the existing text and the necessary fonts to replace it if I can figure out the font size to use, at least to be "good enough".

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Well, here's an attempt. I'm not completely happy with it, but maybe someone else can provide some assistance.

In the folder UNART are three files:

ARTWORK1.GIF - "Microsoft" is removed
ARTWORK2.GIF - "Unofficial" is put in its place
ARTWORK.AVI - AVI made from ARTWORK2.GIF

Procedure:
1) Loaded the 3.0 AVI file, (see post from PROBLEMCHYLD above) in VirtualDub 1.9, and saved it as an animated GIF file.
2) Loaded the GIF file in GIMP Portable 2.8.0, removed "Microsoft", and saved it as ARTWORK1.GIF.
3) Loaded ARTWORK1.GIF in Irfanview 4.33, added "Unofficial" using the Font Arial Narrow Bold Size 14, and saved it as ARTWORK2.GIF. -- I had to use Irfanview because Gimp didn't have access to Arial Narrow Bold even though it was a recognized installed system file, but Irfanview did..
4) Loaded ARTWORK2.GIF in VirtualDub 1.9, and saved it as ARTWORK.AVI.

The "Unofficial" text is about the right size and letter spacing, but if you enlarge the image enough you will see the letters are too angular and not smooth and rounded like the other text in the image. If anyone can recommend a better text to use I can give it another try, or they try it them selves using ARTWORK1.GIF as a source.

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I have to report that, despite my best efforts, I've been utterly unable to elicit a BSOD from Usbhub20.sys v. 5.0.2195.5605. :yes:
Rest assured that the hub I used is not seen as a Composite Device, but simpliy as a "Generic USB Hub" (USB 2.0, High Speed) from Alcor Micro (VID=0x058F; PID=0x6254).

This is what we have so far

TmEE - VIA VT6212L
Drivers not working - USBHUB20.SYS 5.0.2195.5605, USBHUB20.SYS 5.0.2195.6891

Drugwash - VIA VT6202
Drivers working - USBHUB20.SYS 5.0.2195.6891

dencorso - Generic USB Hub
Drivers working - USBHUB20.SYS 5.0.2195.5605
Drivers not working - USBHUB20.SYS 5.0.2195.6891

It's more complicated than that... USBHUB20.SYS 5.0.2195.6891 now works for me, too. :wacko:
The only thing I can say for sure that changed between the time when it gave me the BSODs and now is that now I use RLoew's WDMEX.VxD, instead of WDMSTUB.SYS 5.0.0.6... :unsure:
And I get the analog results using yet another "Generic USB Hub" (USB 2.0, High Speed) from Genesys Logic (VID=0x05E3; PID=0x0608).
I'll also test USBHUB.SYS 5.0.2195.7006 soon, but I bet it'll work, too... Question is, why are them working now? Posted Image
Also BTW, my machine's motherboard uses a VT8237 southbridge (part of which is a VT6212 USB controller).

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Here's a LOGO set for users who also have the 98 Plus! package installed. This way they can have the "Second Edition" text and not lose the "Plus!" text.
Courtesy of bphlpt & myself.

You can add it if you wish, or if not it can remain linked here for anyone who wants to add it manually.

98PLUSSE.ZIP - 86.9 Kb

Edited by LoneCrusader, 30 November 2012 - 02:47 AM.


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I'm assuming it's possible-- can someone direct me to info about getting LAN icon to work in win98se?

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Well, here's an attempt. I'm not completely happy with it, but maybe someone else can provide some assistance.

In the folder UNART are three files:

ARTWORK1.GIF - "Microsoft" is removed
ARTWORK2.GIF - "Unofficial" is put in its place
ARTWORK.AVI - AVI made from ARTWORK2.GIF

Procedure:
1) Loaded the 3.0 AVI file, (see post from PROBLEMCHYLD above) in VirtualDub 1.9, and saved it as an animated GIF file.
2) Loaded the GIF file in GIMP Portable 2.8.0, removed "Microsoft", and saved it as ARTWORK1.GIF.
3) Loaded ARTWORK1.GIF in Irfanview 4.33, added "Unofficial" using the Font Arial Narrow Bold Size 14, and saved it as ARTWORK2.GIF. -- I had to use Irfanview because Gimp didn't have access to Arial Narrow Bold even though it was a recognized installed system file, but Irfanview did..
4) Loaded ARTWORK2.GIF in VirtualDub 1.9, and saved it as ARTWORK.AVI.

The "Unofficial" text is about the right size and letter spacing, but if you enlarge the image enough you will see the letters are too angular and not smooth and rounded like the other text in the image. If anyone can recommend a better text to use I can give it another try, or they try it them selves using ARTWORK1.GIF as a source.

Cheers and Regards

Don't worry, I do prefer the smooth font. You did great and I appreciate it with the utmost :thumbup

It's more complicated than that... USBHUB20.SYS 5.0.2195.6891 now works for me, too.
The only thing I can say for sure that changed between the time when it gave me the BSODs and now is that now I use RLoew's WDMEX.VxD, instead of WDMSTUB.SYS 5.0.0.6... :unsure:
And I get the analog results using yet another "Generic USB Hub" (USB 2.0, High Speed) from Genesys Logic (VID=0x05E3; PID=0x0608).
I'll also test USBHUB.SYS 5.0.2195.7006 soon, but I bet it'll work, too... Question is, why are them working now? Posted Image
Also BTW, my machine's motherboard uses a VT8237 southbridge (part of which is a VT6212 USB controller).

Music to my ears :lol: If you are to find that WDMSTUB.SYS might be the culprit, then maybe one can patch it. Here's is the crazy thing, USBHUB20.SYS 5.0.2195.6891 works without WDMSTUB.SYS 5.0.0.6 :o

@PROBLEMCHYLD

Here's a LOGO set for users who also have the 98 Plus! package installed. This way they can have the "Second Edition" text and not lose the "Plus!" text.
Courtesy of bphlpt & myself.

You can add it if you wish, or if not it can remain linked here for anyone who wants to add it manually.

98PLUSSE.ZIP - 86.9 Kb

Thank you LC :hello: I'm hoping one of my dear friends [Drugwash] maybe be able to create an updated optional installer so we can have sub-options :yes:

I'm assuming it's possible-- can someone direct me to info about getting LAN icon to work in win98se?

If you are talking about the double network icon, thats Universal Plug N Play. Its optional in the Service Pack, but if you don't have UPNP devices Don't install it because it won't do you any good :}

Edited by PROBLEMCHYLD, 30 November 2012 - 02:14 PM.

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May be nitpicking, but still, 'Windows 98' is Microsoft's product, so I don't think we should replace 'Microsoft' with 'Unofficial'. The approach below is not ideal but to me it sounds a bit better.
The ideal approach would be:
Unofficial Service Pack 3
for
Microsoft Windows98
Second Edition


and the Plus! logo might get its rightful place in there somewhere too.

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One question is bothering me: why use an AVI - which is 128 kB and only has one frame, so it's utterly useless in this format - when a 8bpp BMP would be 40kB and acceptable by the Windows API? The installer should be modified to display a BMP, IMHO. However, I could not find the above AVI in the SP3 installer, so there may be a catch I'm not aware of. Anyone care to fill me in (no hurry, though)?

EDIT:
This connection is killing me! :(

That installer would have to wait for a while, otherwise I have no idea how to handle all the open projects I'm working on. Right now I'm trying hard to build that NE editor I promised. It's harder than I thought and is gonna take a lot more time toget to a usable version.
After that, I may think of an installer. I can (theoretically) get rid of ResHacker, Touch and maybe other third-party tools and do everything from the installer, but this has to be thought of carefully. As I said so many times, I'm slow and lots of real-life issues draw me back. There's will so there must be a way, it's just that there's not much time left ahead. :(

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I like the Microsoft font style you used, it nice and clearer :thumbup I'm not a big fan of the Service Pack font :no: I do like the original better. BTW, the AVI was in the very first 3.0. I had to remove it when I released 3.1. I'm sorry Drugwash, but that purple does not look good with the original colors. :} I know thats your favorite color but.......I also agree we can probably leave the Microsoft in but find a way to add Unofficial.

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No worries, that was just a proof of concept. It wouls still be best to outline the 'unofficial' bit, just in case someone would take it for granted and then run into - knock on wood! -troubles. Say a color and I'll use it.

The font I used for 'Service Pack' is FreeSans, 12, BoldOblique and - whaddaya know? - it's the same I used for 'Microsoft', just that it's italicized, exactly as it is in the original file. Compare the two, see the differences are minor. ;)

I'll see if I can find a 3.0 version of the SP somewhere, to look at the installer.

Also, for the future, please put together a list of options and suboptions for the new installer that may (or may not) come to life. I'll also need the direct dependencies from one-another and the amount of RAM required by each of them (or only by the most memory-hungry), so I could add checks and warnings as appropriate.

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No worries, that was just a proof of concept. It wouls still be best to outline the 'unofficial' bit, just in case someone would take it for granted and then run into - knock on wood! -troubles. Say a color and I'll use it.

The font I used for 'Service Pack' is FreeSans, 12, BoldOblique and - whaddaya know? - it's the same I used for 'Microsoft', just that it's italicized, exactly as it is in the original file. Compare the two, see the differences are minor. ;)

I'll see if I can find a 3.0 version of the SP somewhere, to look at the installer.

Also, for the future, please put together a list of options and suboptions for the new installer that may (or may not) come to life. I'll also need the direct dependencies from one-another and the amount of RAM required by each of them (or only by the most memory-hungry), so I could add checks and warnings as appropriate.

Try Unofficial on the same line as Microsoft. Lets see how that look. Black fonts are cool, you really can't go wrong with that. I will get you that list sometime in the future. Thanks

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Would this do?

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Yes, that looks good :w00t: Can you give the Unofficial an aggressive look?
What about centering Microsoft right above Windows and adding down the side

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Edited by PROBLEMCHYLD, 30 November 2012 - 04:05 PM.

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Which side?

I think that 'unofficial' is already looking kinda aggressively at me for moving it all around. :whistle:

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Which side?

I think that 'unofficial' is already looking kinda aggressively at me for moving it all around. :whistle:

The left side. LOL

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From talking to LC earlier, he mentioned that he thought he remembered someone said that there were some incompatibilities/conflicts between SP3 and the Plus! pack. Can anyone confirm or refute that? If there are problems, what needs to be fixed in order to be able to use both? As I said to him, I would think that the combination of the Microsoft Plus! Pack along with SP3 and 98SE2ME from MDGx would make the "Ultimate " version of 98. No? I guess to go "further" would require adding files from RLowe and maybe even the KernelEx api compatibility layer, but I was thinking about the "basic" Ultimate version. :) [And no, I am not trying to start any kind of flame war with folks who think that the best version of 98 is a stripped and minimalized version. I agree that there are circumstances where that is absolutely the best approach.]

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From talking to LC earlier, he mentioned that he thought he remembered someone said that there were some incompatibilities/conflicts between SP3 and the Plus! pack. Can anyone confirm or refute that? If there are problems, what needs to be fixed in order to be able to use both? As I said to him, I would think that the combination of the Microsoft Plus! Pack along with SP3 and 98SE2ME from MDGx would make the "Ultimate " version of 98. No? I guess to go "further" would require adding files from RLowe and maybe even the KernelEx api compatibility layer, but I was thinking about the "basic" Ultimate version. :) [And no, I am not trying to start any kind of flame war with folks who think that the best version of 98 is a stripped and minimalized version. I agree that there are circumstances where that is absolutely the best approach.]

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There are no conflicts with SP3 and Plus!98

I installed 3.9 and I noticed that after I installed Microsoft PLUS! for Windows 98 (After I finished the last step in the read me) some system programs got there file extensions changed. Such as Theme.exe, tuneup.exe and Theme.cpl got changed to Themeexe.W98, tuneupexe.W98 and themecpl.W98 Also the start up Logo.sys and the Logow.sys files were renamed to Logo.W98 and Logow.W98 Respectively. Needless to say this broke all of the shortcuts to those files and reverted the boot up screen to the original Windows 98 one. After renaming all the .W98 files to there original extensions files they worked fine. These are the only files that could be found with a .W98 extension.

Thank you for this, it really has helped all of my Windows 98 machines with there overall stability.


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What registry keys need to be chanced to give shortcuts their arrow back ? (or make them different colored or something, to make them different)

Can the open dialog box fields' size be saved, or the open box default size be enlarged ? The default sizes obscure most of the filename, which in one reason I prefer non-detail view as it always shows full file name (and several columns so more files are seen at once).

I will also touch up the start menu graphics so it would look a bit smoother. Question is what is the font used ? The original GFX is quite "damaged" and touching them up can look quite a bit different from what it should be...

One other thing I noticed after installing SP is that in IfranView had all the text in Bold in the conf menus. Installing the 100+ fonts option fixed that.

The rest has been very solid so far.

I'll report all oddities when I encounter any. I just reinstalled my main machine and right now I am in the process of installing my essential pieces of software.

Edited by TmEE, 01 December 2012 - 03:20 PM.

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What registry keys need to be chanced to give shortcuts their arrow back ? (or make them different colored or something, to make them different)...

:blink: Do you actually *like* 'em (the arrows, I mean)?

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What registry keys need to be chanced to give shortcuts their arrow back ? (or make them different colored or something, to make them different)

You will have to replace SHELL32.DLL blank icons with the shortcut arrows. I posted this and let people know this is optional but it installs with the Windows 2000 icons/theme option. I wasn't going to make a separate options for icon arrows. Remember guys, this pack can be stable on most systems but will not suit everyone needs. Another alternative would be to patch Tweak UI 1.33 so we don't have this problem. There is no cake and ice cream, but cake or ice cream. If Microsoft couldn't give it to us, then I can't either :} Our member Drugwash said. if time allows it, he might be able to give us an installer with the sub-options.
Until then, we have to be patient.

I will also touch up the start menu graphics so it would look a bit smoother. Question is what is the font used ? The original GFX is quite "damaged" and touching them up can look quite a bit different from what it should be...

Thank you :yes: I'm not sure because another member did the artwork :}

What do you guys think about this artwork? I think the red and white Unofficial looks awesome. Thank Drugwash :thumbup

Edited by PROBLEMCHYLD, 02 December 2012 - 07:50 AM.

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:thumbup :thumbup

Yes, the red and white stands out more to me. Looks great!

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The arrow only serves something to differentiate shortcut from a program. When I have some installers on desktop and then install them I can get same kind of icons with name name... nom figure out which is right without looking at propertios.
But this is not too much of concern, Revolutions Pack fixes that.

As for start menu art, I'll take some liberties then :P
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The arrow only serves something to differentiate shortcut from a program. When I have some installers on desktop and then install them I can get same kind of icons with name name... nom figure out which is right without looking at propertios.
But this is not too much of concern, Revolutions Pack fixes that.

As for start menu art, I'll take some liberties then :P

I'm looking forward to the new start banner. Thanks :w00t:

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Hi Problemchyld!
I've been an SP3 user for a few months, and I must say that I'm incredibly grateful for your hard work. SP3 has not only made my system faster, but also much, much more stable. Adding to that, I'm no longer dependent on Microsoft keeping W98 updates on their website. You've really helped making Win9x computing much more enjoyable. Thank you!

Sadly I cannot contribute much in terms of testing since I mainly use Windows 98 for gaming, though I can contribute with some artwork. Here's some start menu banners I made:

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Contrary to what you may think at first, they are actually 16-color images, though they use an adaptive palette. And yes, they work - even in safe mode (though they do look a little crap with the standard 16-color palette).
Here's a .zip containing the bitmaps: http://www.mediafire...vx77rvq1w3d3d7d

If you have any suggestions or requests, please tell me about it.
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I used the image from on older SP as a basis and this is the result :

http://www.tmeeco.eu...8SE/98START.bmp

EDIT: works now

Edited by TmEE, 02 December 2012 - 03:38 PM.

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